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Media criticized in slayings with racial overtone (Newsom/Christian)
MSNBC ^ | May 20, 2007 | AP

Posted on 05/25/2007 7:15:10 AM PDT by processing please hold

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. - In a powerful demonstration of the way the Internet has opened up the mainstream media to intensive second-guessing, bloggers are charging that news outlets have ignored the rape and murder of a young Knoxville couple because of the racial implications of the story.

The two victims were white; the five defendants are black.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: hatecrime; pajamapeoplerule; rape; torture
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It was bloggers who undermined CBS anchorman Dan Rather's 2004 report about President Bush's National Guard service, digging up evidence that the documents may have been forgeries.

We all know what 'bloggers' did that, don't we.

Be sure to click on their live vote in the article.

1 posted on 05/25/2007 7:15:14 AM PDT by processing please hold
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It was bloggers who undermined CBS anchorman Dan Rather's 2004 report about President Bush's National Guard service, digging up evidence that the documents may have been forgeries.

May?

Right. And the sun just "may" rise tomorrow.

That was done and settled. Absent a time machine or divine intervention, there is no way those documents could possibly have been genuine. And they all know that, but they can never admit it.

This article is just another lame-stream, mealy-mouth attempt to blather over what everyone with half a working brain cell knows is the truth.

White on black crime? STOP THE PRESSES!!!

Black on white crime? Move along, nothing to see here...

2 posted on 05/25/2007 7:26:46 AM PDT by Ronin (Ut iusta esse, lex noblis severus necesse est.)
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“Internet has opened up the mainstream media to intensive second-guessing, “

How dare they! We are the MSM and we are the truth and the light. How dare you question us or our motives.

Why, even our lies are pure!


3 posted on 05/25/2007 7:27:42 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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The Knoxville Horror: The Crime and the Cover-Up

Nicholas Stix, Special to AR News, May 14, 2007

On Saturday, January 6, 2007, Channon Christian, 21, and Christopher Newsom, 23, of Knoxville, Tennessee, went on a date from which they would never return. On their way to the home of another couple, they were carjacked and kidnapped. Over the next 24 hours they were beaten, gang-raped, tortured, and murdered.

If Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom had been black and their killers white, everyone in America would know their names. Because they were white and their killers are black, their fate has been shrouded in a thick silence that has given rise to a host of gruesome rumors. Their story highlights the strange and twisted nature of race relations in America.

The men who kidnapped and killed Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom have not yet gone to trial, so they are theoretically innocent. This account is based on documents filed in federal and state courts, and on sometimes-vague allegations in news reports......

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http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2007/05/the_knoxville_h.php


4 posted on 05/25/2007 7:31:10 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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The details of this case are horrifying: rape, torture, and murder in a medieval fashion. All five defendants should get the death penalty immediately upon conviction.


5 posted on 05/25/2007 7:33:34 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Ronin
May?

I caught that as well. You're right, they'll never admit it. But, this is msnbc afterall.

The 'suspects' dumped the 4 runner about 4 hours after they carjacked them. The media keep trying to tell people that it was simply a carjacking that went wrong. It wasn't. I believe what they did to that poor couple was their plan all along.

If they poured bleach down her throat to get rid of DNA, why didn't they also clean out her vagina and rectum? They found DNA in those areas. Again, I believe the bleach was another form of torture.

6 posted on 05/25/2007 7:34:07 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Ronin

They can’t show the original typed and hand signed documents because they are computer generated forgeries.

The “experts” pointed that the signatures matched. Easy to do with digital cut and paste. Not so easy to do with a ballpoint pen.


7 posted on 05/25/2007 7:34:56 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: processing please hold

You don’t hold “carjacking” victims prisoner. You don’t rape women AND men if it is suddenly a case of finding a hot babe in the car.

You don’t ditch the vehicle shortly afterwards if your goal was to obtain the vehicle.

This was a coordinated act of racial humiliation. A vile hate crime and perhaps a gang initiation.


8 posted on 05/25/2007 7:37:43 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Al Gator
How dare they! We are the MSM and we are the truth and the light. How dare you question us or our motives.

That's what sticks in their craw. 'WE terrify the lsm. They can't get away with what they once could. We're able to check out their stories and bring others to the light of day and they can't handle that.

9 posted on 05/25/2007 7:38:03 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: KeyLargo

Thank you. I read that article. It’s a good one.


10 posted on 05/25/2007 7:39:25 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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"The critics include mainstream conservatives, such as the National Review, and white supremacists."

I love how they sneak this line in there, insinuating that if you are a critical of their handling (or lack thereof) of this story, you just may be a white supremist.
11 posted on 05/25/2007 7:41:05 AM PDT by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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To: Rummyfan
All five defendants should get the death penalty immediately upon conviction.

Oh how I agree with you on that. To do what they did to human beings, they are animals that's for sure.

12 posted on 05/25/2007 7:41:53 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: weegee
The lsm will never admit they were forgeries, Weegee. They can't. They'll continue to say may be forgeries.
13 posted on 05/25/2007 7:44:45 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: weegee
I agree with your entire post. The trials-when they happen will be very interesting.

I don't know how we are going to learn about the trial facts when the media won't report on the crime.

14 posted on 05/25/2007 7:47:21 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: USMCWife6869
white supremacists."

Nearly every article I've found on this subject, 'white supremacist' is somewhere in it. It's their way of making this look like the only ones who care about this story are racists. It seems a lot of outlets wouldn't touch this story with a ten foot pole. They don't want to be seen as racists.

15 posted on 05/25/2007 7:51:17 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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Again, I believe the bleach was another form of torture.

Thanks, I hadn't thought of that, and had also wondered how they might think washing DNA out of the mouth, but not all other parts, would hide evidence.

But the additional story detail of "And made Channon Christian drink a gallon of bleach and so die hideously and horribly", could be suppressed if one changes it to "and washed her mouth out with bleach".

That would be a horrible cause of death, dying from a digestive tract full of caustic bleach.
16 posted on 05/25/2007 7:51:53 AM PDT by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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I'd like to see this country collectively agree that all crime is hate crime, and just leave it at that. Why anyone hates isn't important, especially when it comes to punishment.

Yet some arrogantly believe that if they understand the "why", they will be able to prevent evildoers from perpetrating their acts of violence. I'm mostly content to understand that free will, since Eve handed Adam the apple, is enough to enable violence, and leave it at that. Some might consider this outlook too simplistic.

17 posted on 05/25/2007 7:55:42 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: starbase
But the additional story detail of "And made Channon Christian drink a gallon of bleach and so die hideously and horribly", could be suppressed if one changes it to "and washed her mouth out with bleach".

That part of the story bothered me from the very beginning. Her other body cavities were full of dna. It was torture, otherwise her entire body would have been cleaned, not just her mouth. Lord bless that poor woman.

18 posted on 05/25/2007 7:57:04 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Rummyfan

As evil as the five defendants are the Clarence Darrow-type lawyers who are going to defend them by saying “oppression from whitey made them do it.”

Leopold and Loeb’s rich parents bought their sons’ way out of the death penalty by hiring Darrow. Al Sharpton will probably use his wealth and influence to hire attorneys for these defendants. People like him are the true race hatemongers. I don’t even think these defendants should be charged with hate crimes - just charge them with murder, convict them, and give them the death penalty.


19 posted on 05/25/2007 7:57:16 AM PDT by conserveababe (I was a chick with a gun before chicks with guns were cool.)
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The tone of this article and the baseless references to white supremacists are exactly why people distrust the media. They are simply angry that we no longer pay attention to them.
20 posted on 05/25/2007 8:00:25 AM PDT by Gingersnap
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To: Hat-Trick
I'd like to see this country collectively agree that all crime is hate crime, and just leave it at that. Why anyone hates isn't important, especially when it comes to punishment.

So would I but as long as we have the sharptons and jackson creating wedges and divides, I don't see that happening none too soon.

It's free will. We decide what we will and won't do and accept the consequences of our acts.

21 posted on 05/25/2007 8:05:43 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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WOW! Still not reporting the story but instead the coverage of the story. It’s all about me!(news media)


22 posted on 05/25/2007 8:08:51 AM PDT by the_daug
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Status of the vote:

Do you think the media was biased in its coverage of this case? * 2088 responses

Yes. If the racial situation had been turned around, the press would have been all over it, loudly and from a high and visible platform 89%

No. That's just bad conjecture. There's no proof this is more than a random crime of opportunity -- regardless of the races involved 11%

Here's to hoping the perps DIAF.

23 posted on 05/25/2007 8:13:22 AM PDT by Felis_irritable (Dirty_Felis_Irritable...)
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To: processing please hold

Racial Overtones??????????? Not to be confused with a hate crime.

All depends if the victim is BLACK or WHITE.............


24 posted on 05/25/2007 8:13:29 AM PDT by newcthem (George Bush.......Making America Safer............FOR MEXICAN CRIMINALS!)
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To: conserveababe
“oppression from whitey made them do it.”

I think that will be injected in a line of defense as well.

By the media trying to bury this story it will(hopefully) be a circus. It's harder to bury and hide a circus.

Al Sharpton will probably use his wealth and influence to hire attorneys for these defendants.

I'm waiting to see if a fund is set up for their defense.

25 posted on 05/25/2007 8:14:45 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: USMCWife6869

just out of curiosity, would they expect the relative handful of white supremacists in our country to not be against this vile race crime?

they are trying to dampen the impact by sullying the detractors by association.

just take some time and look who populates newsrooms these days acting in their own group identity’s special interest

and also note how white supremacists are no longer what passes for racism.....racism today means anyone who doesn’t endorse everything minority ....a far cry from back when there were more real racists around

there is more racism directed at whites from every corner of our culture than vice versa...far more.

i’m convinced of it.


26 posted on 05/25/2007 8:15:15 AM PDT by wardaddy (on parole)
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To: Gingersnap
The tone of this article and the baseless references to white supremacists are exactly why people distrust the media. They are simply angry that we no longer pay attention to them.

It's the one thing they have to run with, white supremacist, and they'll wring all they can out of it to try to deflect people away from this story.

The media needs to face a hard reality, the internet is here and if they want to compete in a free market, they need to start reporting the news-all of it, not just cherry-picked articles to drive the people to their way of thinking.

27 posted on 05/25/2007 8:19:28 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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WOW! Still not reporting the story but instead the coverage of the story. It’s all about me!(news media)

A mirror has been shoved in the faces of the lsm and they're not happy that many people have figured them out. They don't care about this tragic torture story, just how they can make excuses for the utter failure they really are as news reporters.

You're right. To them it really is about me.

28 posted on 05/25/2007 8:24:35 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Felis_irritable

That 11% is delusional, I just hope they don’t vote in elections.


29 posted on 05/25/2007 8:26:27 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: newcthem
All depends if the victim is BLACK or WHITE.............

That seems to be the norm today. Reversed discrimination when it comes to murder.

30 posted on 05/25/2007 8:28:20 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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It's not only major media that want to downplay the vicious crime.  Compare this Bizarro World statement from John Gill, special assistant to District Attorney Randy Nichols...

The victims were just "at the wrong place at the wrong time..."

...to the prosecutorial zeal of North Carolina vs the Duke lacrosse team.
31 posted on 05/25/2007 8:31:35 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: processing please hold

I think the whole”opprssion from whitey made me do it”is an incredibly weak argument in 2007.
For the vast majority of blacks today,the man who looks like THEM is the one putting all those dead black corpses out in the street.Like the song says,
“Blacks are blacks worst enemies
And you call yourself kin to me
Jealousy,envy,I see it in your eyes
Now tell me whats wrong with seeing a black man rise”


32 posted on 05/25/2007 8:35:35 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: USMCWife6869
"The critics include mainstream conservatives, such as the National Review, and white supremacists."

"I love how they sneak this line in there, insinuating that if you are a critical of their handling (or lack thereof) of this story, you just may be a white supremist."

It's even worse than that.  The sentence is formulated  to include, under the heading of mainstream conservatism, white supremacy.  David Duke and Fred Thompson, all samee samee.
33 posted on 05/25/2007 8:37:43 AM PDT by gcruse
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"The critics include mainstream conservatives, such as the National Review, and white supremacists."

I love how they sneak this line in there, insinuating that if you are a critical of their handling (or lack thereof) of this story, you just may be a white supremist.

There is a comma after National Review, but if you don't pay attention, you will read what they really wanted to say:

The critics include mainstream conservatives, such as the National Review and white supremacists.

34 posted on 05/25/2007 8:39:03 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: gcruse
Unbelievable isn't it? Rehtorical.

At first some were saying they were looking for drugs. That fell through quickly and now it's the wrong place at the wrong time.

to the prosecutorial zeal of North Carolina vs the Duke lacrosse team.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

I'm praying Chris and Channon and their families get the justice they deserve.

Then OJ trial pops in my head. Granted they can't afford a dream team but his lawyers need only to persuade a couple of jurors and a great miscarriage of Justice will have been perpetrated.

35 posted on 05/25/2007 8:41:00 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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The victims did not know the attackers and were just "at the wrong place at the wrong time," Gill said.

By that standard, the James Byrd murder was not a hate crime.

36 posted on 05/25/2007 8:44:11 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: wardaddy

Exactly wardaddy! Unfornately too many whites are too easily intimidated by such rhetoric.


37 posted on 05/25/2007 8:45:05 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: weegee
This was a coordinated act of racial humiliation. A vile hate crime and perhaps a gang initiation.

No, it was an act of retribution for the imagined crimes these black people think they have suffered. When told from birth that America is a "racist country," that America is "intolerant" of minorities (yeah, right, lol), it is not surprising that some of the under-educated among these same minorities would act out in misguided vengeance.

We are well on our way to race wars in this country; it just seems that some among us have gotten a head start.

38 posted on 05/25/2007 8:45:53 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Riverman94610
I think the whole”opprssion from whitey made me do it”is an incredibly weak argument in 2007.

But scum like jackson and sharpton make their living off of telling black people that. Divide the races and whip up animosity is all they're good for. I wish Bill Cosby received more coverage than those two pariah's.

39 posted on 05/25/2007 8:47:22 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

I have found that the criminal types out there care almost nothing for Jackson,Sharpton OR Cosby.They live in a world where THEY never see anyone except their cultural prototypes.
Thats why I laugh when I hear people descibe some off the wall thugs as “Democratic voters”.Most of these gangsters are not and never will be registered to vote.Voting means absolutely nothing in their world.


40 posted on 05/25/2007 8:54:46 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: denydenydeny
Exactly. The only difference is that the race is reversed. We had wall to wall coverage on that horrible crime.
41 posted on 05/25/2007 8:58:16 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

I wonder who they mean by white supremacists. They had an example for conservatives (National Review), but who are the white supremacists they are referring to? Did they just throw that in or what?


42 posted on 05/25/2007 8:59:33 AM PDT by mikeandike
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To: Riverman94610
They live in a world where THEY never see anyone except their cultural prototypes.

Their cultural prototypes is getting them murdered at an alarming rate. Somewhere along the line they need to say, ok, this isn't working out for us, we need to change. I believe that is what Cosby is what is trying to get across. Stop blaming the white man for the black mans problems.

43 posted on 05/25/2007 9:06:41 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: mikeandike
but who are the white supremacists they are referring to? Did they just throw that in or what?

Oh no, there are white supremacist sites that have latched onto this story which is why it makes it hard to come across 'good' articles.

In searching for articles about this story the majority talking about it is racist sites. The media dropped the ball on this story and finding articles to post on FR are few and far between.

44 posted on 05/25/2007 9:11:04 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

MAJOR INTREP


45 posted on 05/25/2007 9:12:14 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: LiteKeeper
MAJOR INTREP

I'm sorry?

46 posted on 05/25/2007 9:14:06 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

intelligence report - prob. filing for later


47 posted on 05/25/2007 9:23:08 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: processing please hold

True,but very few are getting the message.
Example.I spent the afternoon subbing at one our more notorious high schools yesterday.No violence or threats of any kind.Nobody got shot or overdosed.Yet the whole atmosphere at the school was anti-learning.Kids wandering in and out of rooms.Kids playing music on the computer,playing cards,wrestling each other.No attempt a serious work.
I did call security and they made an obligatory attempt to get the students in line since they completely ignored my instructions.After the officer left it was back to nonsense as usual.
Not all these kids are defiant or bad apples.Many of them are very nice and friendly.
Yet they haven’t the slightest CLUE of how the world outside the ghetto works and no one seems to want to wake them up to future shock.
And,BTW,Any black parent who can afford it will not send their kid to this place.So what happens is you have no middle class kids exerting their positive influence.Its like Tupac said:
In the ghetto its the blind leading the blind
A world of woe with no peace of mind


48 posted on 05/25/2007 9:25:13 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: stainlessbanner
Oh, thank you.

Everything I come across on this story I put in it's own folder, for future references and cross checks.

49 posted on 05/25/2007 9:25:49 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold
...digging up evidence proof that the documents may have been were forgeries.

There. Fixed it.

50 posted on 05/25/2007 9:26:26 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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