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"Fox News Against The Right!" (Posted on Ann Coulter's Website)
Coulter / Slate ^ | May 25,2007 | Mickey Kaus

Posted on 05/25/2007 11:02:33 AM PDT by ftro

OK, why did Fox News have to cover that volcano erupting? As I said, conservatives can't count on Fox to keep the immigration debate boiling. Fox isn't the conservative cable channel. It's the Bush cable channel. Try to find the immigration bill controversy on the Fox home page. (It's there, but you have to look way down. Even then it's spun deceptively in a pro-Bush way: "As plan moves forward in the Senate will House sink it?" As if it's already a done deal in the Senate and only those Pelosi Dems stand in the way. ... )

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Ann Coulter on Hannity and Colmes last night wondered aloud whether the White House contacted Roger Ailes at Fox News and asked him to tamp down coverage of the illegal immigrant amnesty bill. Hannity brushed off the comment and continued with the topic at hand. Earlier this week, Rush mentioned that he had been visited by an "emissary" from the White House who tried to gain his support for the President's position on "immigration." That -- and the contents of this article Coulter posted -- are more food for thought and more action to be taken to defeat amnesty for illegals legislation.
1 posted on 05/25/2007 11:02:34 AM PDT by ftro
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To: ftro

bttt


2 posted on 05/25/2007 11:05:27 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: ftro
Imagine what the Wall Street Journal will look like under his priorship.
3 posted on 05/25/2007 11:07:34 AM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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To: ftro

Thanks. Will read the link.

Good article on Anne’s web site today about this topic.

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi


4 posted on 05/25/2007 11:08:15 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: ftro

Good to see liberals and conservatives working together for a change, even if it is on goofy conspiracy theories.

:)


5 posted on 05/25/2007 11:10:53 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: ftro

“Ann Coulter on Hannity and Colmes last night wondered aloud whether the White House contacted Roger Ailes at Fox News and asked him to tamp down coverage of the illegal immigrant amnesty bill.”

Because it’s so bad open discussion will submarine it.

So far the Liberal MSM is checkmated with the fear of being called racist on one side, and the excitement of defining the conservative “other” as racist on the the other side.

No mention how the bill will disproportionately harm the lifestyles of Hispanic and other minority Americans.


6 posted on 05/25/2007 11:11:55 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: ftro

I’ve had a real sense that we are being marginalized. Chertoff’s statements about us wanting capital punishment for immigrants were unbelievable and irresponsible. I wouldn’t put it past FOX to be toeing the line. After all, they are giving Geraldo a huge amount of airtime on this issue and Shep Smith has been encouraged to rant as well. I would also say that even though who are center-right on FNC are pushing this bill.


7 posted on 05/25/2007 11:12:04 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Inquisitive1
Imagine what the Wall Street Journal will look like under his [Murdoch's] priorship.

Amplification on prior post.

8 posted on 05/25/2007 11:12:43 AM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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To: ftro

Fred Barnes on Special Report does the pro amnesty dance everynight.


9 posted on 05/25/2007 11:17:16 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Premiering in polictial theaters November 2008, “DC DREK 2:THE WRATH OF THE CONNED”!!!)
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To: ftro

All you have to do is watch Special Report and Fox News Sunday to see a solid wall of pundits (Barnes, Kristol, Kondrake, Williams, Liasson, etc.) in favor of amnesty and open borders and they are not even civil about it.

These clowns who live in gated communities in million dollar homes don’t ever hesitate in calling any of you who oppose ILLEGAL aliens as “yahoos”, “bigots”, “nativists” and every other race-based epithet they can think of.

What is sad is that after their daily tirades against those of us who strangely think the law should be followed, Brit Hume will come out and say “Fox News, Fair and Balanced!”

Yeah, right!


10 posted on 05/25/2007 11:19:51 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Dante3

If they pass this bill and Bush signs it I willnever vote Republican again, ever, and I will never send any money to these crooks.


11 posted on 05/25/2007 11:20:15 AM PDT by stockpirate (IF BUSH SIGNS THIS POS IMMIGRATION BILL, I WILL NOT VOTE REPUBLICAN AGAIN!)
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To: ftro

I’ve switch to CNN for news. CNN was always better on breaking news and Lou Dobbs is great on issues important to me. Last Sunday CNN was asking hard questions on immigration (to both D’s and R’s) I never hear Fox ask. Ann is right Fox about Fox, they are neocon water boys.


12 posted on 05/25/2007 11:24:20 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Sybeck1

“Fred Barnes”

He’s a Weekly Standard yahoo.

All supporting wage depression for invitations to the right parties, and class solidarity...though they can never really belong.


13 posted on 05/25/2007 11:27:14 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: stockpirate
Just make an exception to candidates who are working hard to stop this nightmare bill, Democrat or Republican. I will not vote for anyone who supports this bill or a modified form of this bill. These Senators want to damage this country.

We already have laws. We should enforce these laws. Deport illegal aliens, build a fence and otherwise secure the border, fine those who set up "sanctuary cities" that aid and abet and fine employers, cut out special perks for these criminals, etc. And the problem will fade.

What is this apparently frenzied obsession with illegal aliens by Bush & the Senators that borders on insanity or treason?

14 posted on 05/25/2007 11:27:28 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: ftro
Just went to the FoxSnooze website and really did have a hard time finding anything on immigration on the front page. They did have a huge picture of the "missing beautiful-blonde-of-the-week." Yeah. That's front page news.

I watched Ann Coulter on Hannity and Clown and did see Hannity change the subject when Ann brought up FoxSnooze lack of amnesty coverage. She probably won't be asked on again until the amnesty bill passes.

15 posted on 05/25/2007 11:34:23 AM PDT by 50mm (la prensa dos en traducir mi lnea de etiqueta al ingls)
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To: oldbill; Sybeck1

I stopped watching Special Report when Barnes and Kondracke started that spewing that stuff the last time. When was it, two years ago in February? I stopped watching in March of 2005.


16 posted on 05/25/2007 11:34:29 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: ftro

Fox has been crap from day 1. I don’t understand why anyone takes it any more seriously than CNN.


17 posted on 05/25/2007 11:36:26 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: jpsb
I’ve switch to CNN for news.

CNN stopped covering news objectively many years ago. They now carry the water for George Soros and MoveOn.org. Yes, they have Lou Dobbs, but that's it.

FoxSnooze sucks, but CNN reeks like decomposing skunk carcasses.

18 posted on 05/25/2007 11:41:13 AM PDT by 50mm (la prensa dos en traducir mi lnea de etiqueta al ingls)
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To: ftro; All

Has anyone seen the O’Reilly online newsletter? Main piece is about Bush & Bair and the usual.

NOTHING ABOUT THE SENATE BILL, OR A CALL FOR UNIFICATION TO STOP IT...OR DISCUSS IT FOR THAT MATTER.....


19 posted on 05/25/2007 11:42:31 AM PDT by msnpatriot
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To: ftro

We don’t watch Fox all that much anymore at our house.


20 posted on 05/25/2007 11:45:58 AM PDT by Plains Drifter (I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it!!!)
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To: 50mm

i watch very little tv news unless a big story is breaking. but i do love lou dobbs.


21 posted on 05/25/2007 11:49:28 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: stockpirate

I for one would urge you to separate wheat from chaff and vote for the Republicans who do the right thing on this bill.

Since you are from NJ, it’s pretty tough, but I’m sure Scott Garrett is on the right side of this issue. Just an example.

If Bush wasn’t walking the party off a cliff on this, I am sure only a few RINOs would spring for this bad idea. The pressure to go for legalization and ‘comprehensive’ has come from McCain, Hegel, Spectre, a few RINOs, and Bush.

This is not what 90% of the Republican party wants.


22 posted on 05/25/2007 11:52:04 AM PDT by WOSG (Stop Illegal Immigration. Call your Senator today. Senate Switchboard at 202-224-3121.))
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To: Dante3

Amnesty/legalization is a completely unnecessary, undesirable and counter-productive action.

unnecessary - we don’t help our country in any way with it.
Does it remove illegal aliens? No, it just redefines them.
Undesirable - undermines the rule of law


23 posted on 05/25/2007 11:53:38 AM PDT by WOSG (Stop Illegal Immigration. Call your Senator today. Senate Switchboard at 202-224-3121.))
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To: ftro
Pro Amnesty Republicans seem to be wanting a Hillary Clinton nomination.

They know conservatives hate her so bad, they will “forget” the RINOs past votes, and vote for them anyway!

They of course will throw some gay marriage amendments in some key states to seal the deal.

RINOs, remember the Elephant never forgets!!

24 posted on 05/25/2007 11:57:37 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Premiering in polictial theaters November 2008, “DC DREK 2:THE WRATH OF THE CONNED”!!!)
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To: Sybeck1

FR *bookmark* , .. Fox was important , .. but squandered their “juice” , .. too bad


25 posted on 05/25/2007 12:14:49 PM PDT by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: Inquisitive1
Imagine what the Wall Street Journal will look like under his priorship.

What's it been like up till now?

Maybe under Rupert they wouldn't keep reprinting Robert Bartley's infamous "There Shall Be Open Borders" editorial, as they did in the 1990s.

More here.

26 posted on 05/25/2007 12:22:36 PM PDT by x
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To: ftro

Since the President’s people asked Boehner to avoid saying anything negative about the bill, it would not surprise me at all if he talked to Fox about it too. O’Reilly is supporting the bill.

The amnesty and the guest worker programs and the feeble enforcement are of course the big issues in this bill. But Kaus/Slate brings up an issue that IMO just adds insult to injury. That is, that the illegals would NOT have to pay back taxes. Kennedy’s version said they would have to pay them, but Bush asked that Kennedy take that out, which I am sure that Kennedy was only too happy to do. (I have heard this from several sources, not just Kaus/Slate.)

This bill has to be stopped. Phone calls, emails, faxes, letters to Senate/House/President are obviously important. But, should also be doing something more???


27 posted on 05/25/2007 12:25:33 PM PDT by unfortunately a bluestater
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To: oldbill
I've felt for a while that Fox News is not fundamentally 'conservative' - it is fundamentally corporatist. It is also populist when that won't interfere with the business agenda. But in areas where conservatism and corporatism clash (like illegal immigration), corporatism wins.

For a long time, we've been told by the GOP party elite that there is no conflict at all between corporatism - the business side of the party - and traditional conservatism. Now, much of the time, that is perfectly true. But sometimes, like on this issue, the corporatist and conservative wings of the party end up clashing. It's a serious division within the party, and I don't know which wing will previal.

28 posted on 05/25/2007 12:30:10 PM PDT by seacapn
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To: stockpirate

That’s what it’s going to have to come to. I’m already there for about 1/2 the candidates. Of course, I will never vote for a Democrat—even if it’s Jesus—after Waco.


29 posted on 05/25/2007 12:33:43 PM PDT by jammer
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To: seacapn
I think there is a huge difference between "then" and now. In the 70's and 80's, when there was the beginning of the rabid anti-business, especially big business, attitudes and propaganda, I had terrific battles against the anti-business folks. A lot of conservatives did.

However, "big business" has changed. At that time, their priorities were maximizing shareholder value (still is), but there was no doubt that GM, Boeing, etc. were US companies and were US supporters.

Now, I don't believe that. The term "multi-national" is a shibboleth, but it still describes a company that does not give a tinker's damn about the United States, except as one market out of many. If we fall--as we are doing and will continue to do--they'll just sell more cars or whatever to Indians or whomever our jobs have been outsourced to.

30 posted on 05/25/2007 12:40:26 PM PDT by jammer
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To: seacapn

You are correct. When dollar signs are involved, conservatism loses out to corporatism.

You can’t get rich on an ideal. But you sure can on cheap exploited labor that can’t fight back or make demands.


31 posted on 05/25/2007 12:41:10 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Agreed ... and Sean is a chick's commentator that sounds tough at times but is de-facto just another entertainer. (Not to take away the good work he and Ollie are doing for the kids of the fallen.)

The only game in town .... Jim Quinn 104.7 FM here in Pittsburgh or 165 XM.

32 posted on 05/25/2007 12:46:42 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: ftro

http://www.foxnews.com/specialsections/immigration/index.html?CMP=KNC-Y-Imm&HBX_PK=immigration_bill&HBX_OU=51


33 posted on 05/25/2007 1:17:37 PM PDT by 300magnum (God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it. D.Webster)
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To: unfortunately a bluestater
That bill is so outrageous it makes me wonder about the sanity and/or loyalty to this country of those pushing it.

We have to keep phoning and writing and contacting media.

Perhaps African Americans can be convinced to join the battle. (see for example "Illegal immigration's harmful effects:Congressional Caucus drops the ball" by Carol M. Swain in today's The Washington Times).

We have to spread the word. Fox News is not reporting much on it and some of its reporters support it, thus leaving Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck. I wonder if anyone will be distributing leaflets in D.C. this weekend since Rolling Thunder will be in town along with lots of tourists lining the parade route.

34 posted on 05/25/2007 1:18:35 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3; B4Ranch; calcowgirl
"That bill is so outrageous it makes me wonder about the sanity and/or loyalty to this country of those pushing it."

You really don't need to wonder. Any member of Congress (and the President) voting YES on S. 1348 is in breach of his/her oath of office and is a traitor who should either resign or be removed from office. This bill, among its many other outrages, ignores the Constitution and is a direct attack on the national sovereignty of the United States, especially the section featuring the NWO/Globalist wet dream, the SPP/NAU which calls for integrating the United States with Canada and Mexico (North American Union).

35 posted on 05/25/2007 1:32:11 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: ftro

Annie was lethal and hilarious last night on Hannity and Colmes. They had a pacperson/young woman/Edwards supporter on against Annie, (who ignored her)...that’s how lame the woman was. Colmes had to prop her up, a tactic that failed miserably. All they did was play and replay the video of Edwards combing his hair.


36 posted on 05/25/2007 1:37:37 PM PDT by hershey
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To: WOSG

I am in MD now not NJ. I’m sorry but I will become an independent.

Bush and the leaders of the party are pushing this and do not giver a hoot about the affects on the country.

I will never vote democrat and as it is starting to appear I will be leaving the Republican party soon. Or should I say they are leaving me.

I regret that I voted for Bush.


37 posted on 05/25/2007 1:42:22 PM PDT by stockpirate (IF BUSH SIGNS THIS POS IMMIGRATION BILL, I WILL NOT VOTE REPUBLICAN AGAIN!)
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To: Dad yer funny

bttt


38 posted on 05/25/2007 2:02:48 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: 300magnum

Thanks for the link!


39 posted on 05/25/2007 2:47:25 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Czar

“removed from office” and hung!


40 posted on 05/25/2007 4:14:59 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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To: B4Ranch
"“removed from office” and hung!"

After first applying a generous layer of tar & feathers...

41 posted on 05/25/2007 5:16:49 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: ftro
CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

42 posted on 05/26/2007 3:57:52 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: ftro
Amnesty is the new thing dontcha know !

Since the rule of law is down the toilet why can't we get amnesty for not paying income taxes ?

Seems fair to me let's see the elites and their govt shrivel up and die !

Conservatives are usually not anarchists but I could make an exception in this case.


BUMP

43 posted on 05/26/2007 4:33:50 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: oldbill

You’re right. FOX News isn’t what it was...


44 posted on 05/26/2007 7:40:04 PM PDT by GOPJ ( When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits--not animals."- Churchill)
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To: sageb1
At some point in the very near future it will become evident that only imbeciles get their "news" from a blinking box in the living room.

The next generation of leaders must go directly to the sheeple bypassing the MSM entirely.

45 posted on 05/26/2007 7:49:29 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: ftro
We need a conservative cable channel. It doesn't have to be all news. Just a pro-American, conservative channel that cover all aspects of conservatism. Go in-depth with the issues, have some shows about conservatism (maybe have "The Libertarian Hour" thrown in too).

Oh, and Saturday nights should show a Reagan movie.

46 posted on 05/26/2007 7:54:32 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: capitalist229

If this bill passes, I will be changing my current stance on policies.

I will be vehemently against big business, and befor any tax to hurt them.
I will be a major proponent of taxing the rich.
I have not had time to look, but when I find the businesses behind this, especially the key Rep’s, I will be boycotting their products.
I will not support anything to do with the Catholic church, and now believe in seperation of church and state.

This is a sellout, so I will to. I will do whatever I need to do expel Republican’s who voted for this bill, even if it means voting Democrat. Not that this matters, it will be a Democratic landslide in the future anyway. This party who preaches ehtics and everything else has none.
It’s our own fault, the signs were there, but we to busy actually WORKING, PAYING TAXES, and OBEYING THE LAW to organize protests against this bill. Oh, and I will be praying for my 5 year old to forgive me in 20 years for kind of country I left him with, not that he would know how great it was reading Mexican History Books.


47 posted on 05/26/2007 9:22:12 PM PDT by CRM
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To: ftro
Earlier this week, Rush mentioned that he had been visited by an "emissary" from the White House who tried to gain his support for the President's position on "immigration."

True, but that happened years ago, not current.

Fox News is NOT conservative. It only seems conservative, because it presents conservative views along side liberal views. The MSM only present liberal views.

O'Reilly says he is not a conservative and he's right. He's a self-described traditionalist, which usually lines up with conservatives, but not always. O'Reilly is an enviro-wacko. He's a populist on economics, although he opposes taxation for the purposes of re-distribution of wealth.

Many of Fox News folks come from ABC (Brit Hume), NBC, CBS (O'Reilly) or even CNN (Bill Hemmer + Greta).

Murdoch does fundraisers for Hillary. He just saw a market for 'fair + balanced' news coverage, because all the rest of the news was unbalanced. He's no ideologue or crusader or movement activist.

Fox News is what it is and nothing more. No reason to get upset, other than to call them, if true, on their 'unfair and unbalanced' coverage on the immigration bill.

48 posted on 05/29/2007 5:49:08 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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To: stockpirate

If they pass this bill and Bush signs it I willnever vote Republican again, ever, and I will never send any money to these crooks.

I’m sure the Democrats will appreciate your missing vote.


49 posted on 05/29/2007 5:55:34 AM PDT by PicWzrd (Run Fred Run!)
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To: PicWzrd

I am sure the democrats will appreciate my missing vote too.

But Just look at what Bush is doing, now he wants 30 BILLION more dollars for AIDS in Africa.


50 posted on 05/30/2007 9:44:52 AM PDT by stockpirate (IF BUSH SIGNS THIS POS IMMIGRATION BILL, I WILL NOT VOTE REPUBLICAN AGAIN!)
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