Skip to comments.Free Republic Purge: Conservative Web Site Bans Giuliani Supporters
Posted on 05/26/2007 1:49:34 PM PDT by Eurotwit
A few weeks ago in between Hillary Clintons official entry into the presidential race and the first Republican primary debate of the cycle the fiery online conservative forum Free Republic marked a decade in operation as one of the premier online forums for right-wing political discussion.
It also experienced one of the biggest internal battles to rock the site since the 2000 election of George W. Bush -- a tumultuous campaign year that nearly tore the site apart, as its founder and chief administrator first cleansed commenting ranks of Bush supporters, then, later, rallied to his support.
At the heart of the latest controversy: the fight over the conservative bona fides of Rudy Giuliani.
Over the past few weeks, chaos has reigned in the Freeper community as members sympathetic to the former mayor's candidacy claim to have suffered banishment from the site. They were victimized, they say, by a wave of purges designed to weed out any remaining support for the Giuliani campaign on the popular conservative web forum. Another significant chunk of commenters have migrated away from the controversial site over the action, according to a number of former site members and conservative bloggers who have been tracking the situation.
In a plaintive post on the blog Sweetness & Light, exiled commenter Steve Gilbert, who says he does not support the former mayors campaign, blasted the sites new anti-Giuliani, anti-abortion jihad. Since George W. Bush was elected president, he wrote, there havent been any large scale [Free Republic] purges to speak of until now.
The fight began one month ago, when site founder Jim Robinson posted an anti-Giuliani manifesto titled: Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement. Then the virtual ax started to swing. Longtime posters to the freewheeling discussion threads, used to serious no-holds-barred web etiquette, were still stunned by the intensity of the anti-Rudy activity; conservative blogs buzzed with the development.
Jim Robinson has been going on a tear demonizing Rudy Giuliani, because Rudy (agreeing with the vast majority of Americans), is personally opposed to abortions on a moral level complained a user on the GOPUSA Web site. Anyone who posts any support for Giuliani at the site, if it's at all forceful, will be banned.
(Normally, we don't allow complaints about other conservative forums, chided the moderator, but because it is being discussed all over the Internet, I'll make an exception.)
Just a few months ago, Rudy Giuliani placed second in an early Free Republic straw poll; now, his support on the site has been virtually eliminated. After the April Purge, I don't think there are any Rudybots left around here, noted Free Republic commenter upchuck in one recent post. And if there are, they're not posting pro-Rudy stuff :).
The forums werent the only venue for the Free Republics new antagonism toward Mr. Giuliani, which coincided with a wave of comments expressing similar sentiments from other corners of the conservative movement. A few days after Mr. Giulianis equivocal Roe v. Wade comments at the Republican presidential debate on May 3, a new STOP RUDY NOW News & Information Thread was featured on the site, and a newly-created stand-alone category debuted via a link from the homepage: The Giuliani Truth File. (So far this campaign season, Mr. Giuliani is the only candidate Republican or Democratic to be singled out for that level of scrutiny from the Free Republic.)
Why Rudy? Why now? Some conservative bloggers and former commenters contacted for their view of the continuing controversy say they believe that site founder Jim Robinson holds ideologically middling Republicans like Mr. Giuliani responsible for the GOPs congressional loss and current woes. (They asked that their names be kept out of this story for fear of antagonizing the famously frisky site regulars.)
Others claim that the former mayors top-tier status is spurring frantic site administrators into action. Finally, one popular theory holds that the Free Republic is secretly hoping for another Clinton presidency that would send its Alexa ratings soaring back to levels it hasnt experienced since its halcyon days of the Clinton impeachment, when a since-soured relationship with blog pioneer Matt Drudge and overwhelming anti-Clinton sentiment in Republican ranks helped make Free Republic one of the hottest Web sites in the nation. It hasn't recovered that luster since the Bush administration took over.
Its not a conspiracy theory, its an observation, said one blogger, who describes himself as a half-hearted Mitt Romney supporter. Theyve still got a brand name that means something, but theyre not what they were in terms of real-world impact. A Hillary presidency would get them there.
Robinson himself could not be reached for comment, but his original post laid out his case against Mr. Giuliani a graphics-heavy presentation of some of the former mayors most damning moderate quotes in mainstream media venues, along with a color-coded report card tracking his less-than-doctrinaire positions on abortion, immigration, gays and guns.
Robinson, it should be noted, famously blasted George W. Bushs presidential candidacy back in 2000, before a dramatic late-campaign about-face that saw him emerge as one of the GOP tickets biggest supporters. But whether or not Free Republic experiences a similar election-year shift this cycle, the sites current campaign is spreading a dangerous primary-season meme of Rudy Giuliani as big-city liberal and turning one of the most influential web forums in conservatism into an exclusive gathering place for those who share that view.
Someone posted on this article under the nick EV?
Was it you?
Cheers and a good weekend to you,
Appears to be a non-event except in the imagination of some amateur historians.
Couldn't handle the truth on Giuliani so they fell on their sword.
It this a serious magazine??
Sounds like a Rodney Dangerfield comedy skit...
This is how they think, so they project it onto us.
They think only of their own personal gains and only appear to give a hoot for the country as begun in 1776. So they assume we are the same and would rather have no USA left but a thriving Free Republic website. (They also imply that conservatism can only thrive as an underground opposition, which would have put Rush Limbaugh out of work 7 years ago; last I heard, the MajaRushie is doing fine.)
“They were victimized, they say,... “
That’s just so sad. Sniff.
I though it was a purge of liberals not just Rudy fan - oh, wait - never mind.
100,000 reply thread!!!
Check out the photo they ran with Mojo’s article:
“Rudolph Giuliani and Michael Bloomberg marching in the gay pride parade in Manhattan in 2001.”
I rest my case.
Can’t say; don’t know anything about it. Probably some neo-marxist beatnik Greenwich Village rag of little note.
OK. Who declared war? Was war waged on the womb or from the womb? (I don't think anyone smuggled in arms to the pre-born babies, except for the "two" they naturally come equipped with)
Bush at least stood up for the unborn and was pro-gun & pro-tax cuts.
Sadly, we all saw that Bush only gave lip service to conservatism. The opposition to Giuliani and other RINOs simply means we don't want to make that same mistake again.
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