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| May 26, 2007
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Posted on 05/26/2007 2:24:53 PM PDT by Phsstpok
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Saturday Shows for May 26, 2007Below are the topics and guests announced for these programs, along with my take on the "memes" that the shows are trying to push. With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.
The Beltway Boys (Mort Kondrake, Fred Barnes)
- Meme:
- Pay no attention to the real issues of the day... listen to what we tell you is important... respect our authority!
- Topics:
- Left in a tizzy over Congress passing Iraq funding bill with no timetables attached
- We'll tell you why Rudy Giuliani is 'up'
- Beltway Boys contact information beltway@foxnews.com
- The program airs on FOX News Channel Saturdays at 6 and 11:30 p.m. ET
CNBC's Tim Russert Show (Tim Russert)
- Meme:
- somebody somewhere wrote a book that bashes Bush... they'll get the full hour of praise
- Topics:
- no listing as of 3:30 PM, 5/26
- Guests
- no listing as of 3:30 PM, 5/26
- CNBC's Tim Russert Show airs Saturday at 7pm, 10pm & 1am ET
Fox News Watch (Eric Burns)
- Meme:
- Topics:
- Iraq War Supplemental: According to the media did the Dems 'bow to Bush'?
- ABC leaks news of a covert operation aimed at Iran
- Rosie, Rosie, Rosie! Our view of the new 'View' feud
- The program airs on FOX News Channel Saturdays at 6:30 p.m. ET and Sundays at 2:30 a.m. ET
- Fox News Watch contact information Newswatch@foxnews.com
Journal Editorial Report (Paul Gigot) - FNC show page
- Meme:
- The immigration bill is a really a bad idea, regardless of any of the faux arguments in it's favor... this bill stinks and won't do what they say it will and will do what they say it won't.
- People who argue against this bill aren't racist bigot homophobe neanderthals
- Any questions?
- Topics:
- Opinion Journal web page: Borderline Issues
- An immigration debate: four top journalists go at it
- Why would Iran arrest Americans who favor negotiating with Iran?
- Fox News Channel web page
- The fate of a bipartisan immigration deal hangs in the balance: Can the fragile agreement survive a bruising national debate?
- Is Iran moving closer to a nuclear bomb?
- Guests
- Dan Henninger
- Daniel Henninger is deputy editor of The Wall Street Journal's editorial page | profile
- Dancing With Ghosts (Opinion Journal - May 24, 2007)
- Jason Riley
- Heather Mac Donald
- Byron York
- Journal Editorial Report (at Fox News) contact information - jer@foxnews.com
- The program is from The Wall Street Journal and airs on FNC Saturday at 11 p.m. and again Sunday at 6 a.m. ET
NBC Meet The Press (Tim Russert)
Below are the topics and guests announced for this program, along with my take on the "memes" that the show is trying to push. With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.
- Meme:
- Amnesty isn't enough! You must listen to the voices of Azatlan! If not you are a racist bigot homophobe neanderthal
- What's that Randy Newman song? Oh, yeah. "White people got no reason, white people got no reason to live..."
- The race for VP has been declared open and on the Dhimmicrat side Richardson has the early lead.
- Topics:
- Meet the Candidates series
- Guests
- Gov. Bill Richardson, Democrat - New Mexico
- New Mexico Governor's web site | Bio
- Presidential Candidate | Campaign web site | Bio
- Richardson Opposes Immigration Bill (Guardian Unlimited, UK - May 25, 2007)
- In opposing immigration bill, Richardson caught in debate (Los Angeles Daily News, CA - May 24, 2007)
- Richardson takes congressional Democrats to task in Seattle (Seattle Post Intelligencer, WA - May 25, 2007)
- Farm group angry over Richardson veto of water-rights bill (High Plains Journal, KS - May 25, 2007)
- David Broder: In the perfect presidential race, Huckabee faces Richardson (San Antonio Express, TX - May 25, 2007)
- Richardson Begins to Rise (RealClearPolitics, IL - May 24, 2007)
- Fat Chance: Is Bill Richardson Too Hefty To Be President? (NPR - May 23, 2007) note: page includes link to streaming audio
- What would you like to ask this week's guests? (web page for submitting questions for this weeks show)
- Meet the Press mailbox (web page for comments)
CBS Face The Nation (Bob Schieffer)
Below are the topics and guests announced for this program, along with my take on the "memes" that the show is trying to push. With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.
- Meme:
- Wise old Carl has decreed that anyone who wants to secure our borders is a racist bigot homophobe neanderthal
- Wise old Carl has decreed that terrorists have rights and Conservatives don't
- Jeff Sessions, the drive by media's racist bigot homophobe neanderthal target of the week - he's too effective, he must go down!
- Our reporter was badly injured by an IED, therefore she can say anything she wants about war and you can't question her... so there!
- Topics:
- Guests
- Senator Carl Levin, Democrat - Michigan
- Chairman, Senate Armed Services Committee
- Senate web site | Profile
- War Funding Approved (WRCB-TV, TN - May 25, 2007)
- Senator Carl Levin Statement on Levin-Reid Iraq Amendment (All American Patriots (press release), Sweden - May 15, 2007)
- Iraq Timeline Runs Out (The Nation., NY - May 24, 2007)
- Levin finds himself in antiwar group's crosshairs (Detroit Free Press, MI - May 17, 2007)
- Levin hoping to avoid Vietnam War errors (DetNews.com, MI - May 22, 2007)
- Senate Moves to Expand Detainee Rights (Forbes, NY - May 25, 2007)
- Credit card companies: As rough as ever (CNNMoney.com - May 25, 2007)
- Credit card users need laws that guard against abuses in fine print (The News Journal, DE - May 25, 2007)
- Senator Jeff Sessions, Republican - Alabama
- Senate Armed Services Committee member
- Senate web site | Bio
- Critics in Senate Vow to Alter Immigration Bill (New York Times, NY - May 22, 2007)
- On Behalf of the 'American People' (Washington Post, DC - May 21, 2007)
- The Week in Review: Immigration, Reforms, and Pirate's Booty (Town Hall, DC - May 25, 2007)
- Immigration compromise hits a snag in the Senate (WDEF News 12, TN - May 21, 2007)
- 'Gang of 12' Mulls Over Immigration Bill (WTOP, DC - May 24, 2007)
- AL-Sen: Sparks to Decide Before "Early July" (Swing State Project, New York - May 20, 2007)
- Pelosi: Bush's War Policy Unraveling (ABC News - May 25, 2007)
- Sessions: Iraq must self-govern for continued US support (Medill Reports, DC - May 2, 2007)
- Congressional Efforts to End the War in Iraq Showing Progress (Political Affairs Magazine, NY - May 21, 2007)
- Kimberly Dozier
- Face The Nation contact information - ftn@cbsnews.com
Fox News Sunday (Chris Wallace)
Below are the topics and guests announced for this program, along with my take on the "memes" that the show is trying to push. With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.
- Meme:
- Next up on our irrelevant candidates farewell tour... Mike Huckabee. Mike got some good press from the debate, but don't get too used to seeing him... the DBM doesn't like him. He's a Christian, you know.
- The race for VP has been declared open and on the GOP side Huckabee has the early lead.
- Snarlin Arlin has decreed that the first Hispanic AG must go because he's uppity and doesn't kow tow to his massa's in the Senate
- Snarlin Arlin has decreed that anyone who wants to secure our borders is a racist bigot homophobe neanderthal
- The real question of the day: can Kaye be bought by powerful
slave owners business interests in her state?
- Topics:
- Our Choosing the President series continues this week with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee
- He says his presidential campaign is flying high after a strong performance in the FOX News "First in the South" Republican Presidential Debate last week
- He's running as a true social and fiscal conservative in a field full of candidates with questionable conservative credentials.
- What chance does he have to overtake the current GOP frontrunners?
- A closer look at the Republican split over immigration reform
- Crafters of the Senate proposal say it's tough on border security but fair to illegal immigrants who are already in the country
- Some conservatives are calling its path to citizenship a form of amnesty
- Can this compromise work, or is the bill too flawed to make it out of Congress?
- Fox News Sunday panel
- The fight over funding for the war and weigh its effect on presidential politics
- Fox News essay: Coming up on Fox News Sunday
- Guests
- Senator Arlen Specter, RINO - Pennsylvania
- Senate web site | Bio
- Immigration backers deflect assaults (Concord Monitor, NH - May 25, 2007)
- Senators hold off key challenges to immigration bill (Orange County Register, CA - May 24, 2007)
- Leahy, Specter ask Roves lawyer for more e-mails (The Hill, DC - May 25, 2007)
- Leahy, Specter To Roves Lawyer: Turn Over The Emails (Think Progress, DC - May 25, 2007)
- Specter weighs in on Iraq (Wilkes Barre Times-Leader, PA - May 12, 2007)
- If Not Now, When? Congress Must Act to Restore Habeas Corpus (Huffington Post, NY - May 22, 2007)
- Gonzales no-confidence vote set for mid-June in Senate (JURIST - May 25, 2007)
- Republican Senator Arlen Specter Says Gonzales May Resign Before Confidence Vote (All American Patriots (press release), Sweden - May 21, 2007)
- Arlen: Diplomacy needed, not insults (Philadelphia Daily News, PA - May 22, 2007)
- Specter's flat tax is political grandstanding (Allentown Morning Call, PA - May 17, 2007)
- Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, Republican - Texas
- Senate web site | Bio
- Texas senators leaning against bill (Fort Worth Star Telegram, TX - May 21, 2007)
- Businesses want Texas senators to back immigration reform (News 8 Austin, TX - May 25, 2007)
- Both sides mobilize to take immigration debate on the road (Team 4 News, TX - May 24, 2007)
- Immigration bill risks repeating past mistakes (Waco Tribune Herald, TX - May 23, 2007)
- Details on border fence beginning to emerge (Monitor, TX - May 25, 2007)
- Bill could force fence planners to consider local input (Monitor, TX - May 24, 2007)
- War Bill Gives Airlines Pension Relief (Houston Chronicle, TX - May 25, 2007)
- Congress approves billions for war (Bryan College Station Eagle, TX - May 25, 2007)
- Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee
- Presidential Candidate | Campaign web site | Bio
- Huckabee on Jimmy Carter (RealClearPolitics, IL - May 25, 2007)
- One On One With Mike Huckabee (Today's THV, AR - May 24, 2007)
- David Broder: In the perfect presidential race, Huckabee faces Richardson (San Antonio Express, TX - May 25, 2007)
- The Huckabee line (Arkansas Times, AR - May 25, 2007)
- Outspoken Pastor Reproves Huckabee's Withdrawal from New Baptist Covenant (Christian Post - May 24, 2007)
- Mike Huckabee: 'Sanctity of Life' No 'Peripheral' Position (NewsMax.com, FL - May 17, 2007)
- Florida group cheers Brownback, Huckabee (Herald News Daily, ND - May 21, 2007)
- Governor Huckabee, Youre No Ann Coulter (National Review Online, NY - May 16, 2007)
- Fox News Sunday panel
- Fox News Sunday contact information - FNS@foxnews.com
CNN Late Edition (Wolf Blitzer)
Below are the topics and guests announced for this program, along with my take on the "memes" that the show is trying to push. With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.
- Meme:
- There are no Al Qaeda terrorists in Iraq... Al Qaeda is winning in Iraq... we should leave because Al Qaeda is mad that we're in Iraq
- Biden's back and Wolfie's got him!
- Don't you wish a real American, like Al Gore, were running for President?
- Topics:
- On this Memorial Day weekend, do troops in Iraq have what they need to win the fight?
- Senator Joe Biden on why he wants to be president.
- Guests
- Representative Charlie Rangel, Democrat - New York
- Representative Duncan Hunter, Republican - California
- House web site | Bio
- Presidential Candidate | Campaign web site | Bio
- Duncan Hunter Opposes Immigration Deal (NewsMax.com, FL - May 18, 2007)
- Southern border, bad policy exposed (Chicago Tribune, IL - May 24, 2007)
- Dark horse Duncan Hunter takes center stage (Dallas Morning News - May 2, 2007)
- Rep. Duncan Hunter: 'I Will Never Abandon Israel (NewsMax.com, FL - May 22, 2007)
- Duncan Hunter: Israel Shouldn't Give an Inch (NewsMax.com, FL - May 22, 2007)
- Pendleton report: Red tape blocked gear for troops (North County Times, CA - May 25, 2007)
- Guard to get thousands of Humvees from Iraq (ArmyTimes.com, VA - May 24, 2007)
- Hunter's "wall of shame" at US-Mexico border (uruknet.info, Italy - May 21, 2007)
- Yeager comes to SC to back Hunter (WIS, SC - May 22, 2007)
- Clinton and Hunter engage China debate (The Conservative Voice, NC - May 20, 2007)
- Senator Joseph Biden, Democrat - Delaware
- Senate web site | Bio
- Presidential Candidate | Campaign web site | Bio
- Chair, Senate Foreign Relations Cmte.
- After voting for Iraq funding bill, Biden introduces bill to repeal war authorization (USA Today - May 24, 2007)
- Revised Iraq Spending Bill Goes To Vote (CBS News, NY - May 24, 2007)
- Sen. Biden gets wish granted with Iraq-only debate (The Hill, DC - May 22, 2007)
- Biden Favors US Troops for Darfur (ABC News - May 22, 2007)
- US Senator Biden to meet with UN Secretary General on Darfur (Sudan Tribune, Sudan - May 20, 2007)
- Sudans envoy : Darfur an issue for those who have no issue (Sudan Tribune, Sudan - May 22, 2007)
- Biden: US UN funds progressing (San Jose Mercury News, CA - May 21, 2007)
- Commentary: Biden's Blind UN Devotion Rewards Failure (Evening Bulletin, PA - May 25, 2007)
- Joseph Biden Calls Bush Administration Criminally Negligent (Bayou Buzz, LA - Apr 29, 2007)
- Biden Says Democrats Must Convince Voters on Faith Issue (WBOC TV 16, MD - Apr 26, 2007)
- Zalmay Khalilzad
- Former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq
- U.S. Ambassador to U.N. | State Department profile
- Khalilzad calls for UN expansion in Iraq (Alsumaria, Iraq - May 25, 2007)
- Zalmay Khalilzad: Iran has role to play in stabilizing Iraq (Journal of Turkish Weekly, Turkey - May 1, 2007)
- Security Council drops appeal to Sudan (Chandler News-Dispatch, MN - May 25, 2007)
- US pushes for Iran sanctions (ABC Online, Australia - May 24, 2007)
- UN moves on Lebanon court process despite Russia (Swissinfo, Switzerland - May 25, 2007)
- UN expert accuses US of rights abuses (Seattle Post Intelligencer, WA - May 25, 2007)
- Palestine Calls upon International Community to Exert Efforts to compel Israel to Cease its Unlawful Actions (WAFA - Palestine News Agency, Palestinian Territories - May 25, 2007)
- Shaukat Aziz
- Pakistani Prime Minister | Pakistan Government profile
- Safe and stable Pakistan guarantees better future: Shaukat (PakTribune.com, Pakistan - May 25, 2007)
- PML, allied parties to contest general elections from one platform (Associated Press of Pakistan, Pakistan - May 24, 2007)
- PML's, government's doors open for dialogue with opposition (Associated Press of Pakistan, Pakistan - May 22, 2007)
- PAKISTAN: INSIDER TRADING PROBE MAY FINGER TOP GOVERNMENT FIGURES (AKI, Italy - May 25, 2007)
- Musharraf, Shaukat discusses overall political situation, upcoming budget (PakTribune.com, Pakistan - May 23, 2007)
- Jamali refuses to take back his resignation (Online - International News Network, Pakistan - May 23, 2007)
- Candy Crowley
- Andrea Koppel
- Elaine Quijano
- Walter Isaacson
- CNN Late Edition (web page for comments)
ABC This Week (George Stephanopoulos)
Below are the topics and guests announced for this program, along with my take on the "memes" that the show is trying to push. With each guest's name are a series of links that I found in a web search that helped me get a handle on who they are and what their likely positions will be when they are interviewed.
- Meme:
- Dhimmicrats and RINOs agree, if you oppose amnesty (or even call amnesty "amnesty") you are a racist bigot homophobe neanderthal
- Next up on our irrelevant candidates farewell tour... Jim Gilmore. Say goodbye, Jim.
- Don't you wish a real American, like Al Gore, were running for President?
- Topics:
- Commerce Secretary Carlos Guiterrez and Senator Bob Menendez, D-N.J. face-off on the immigration issue and the bi-partisan Senate deal
- Former Governor James Gilmore, R-Va., talks to George about his long shot bid for the White House
- Memorial Day "Voices"
- Beth and Michael Belle about losing their son Nicholas to the war in Afghanistan and remembering him at Arlington National Cemetery
- Guests
- Commerce Secretary Carlos Guitierrez
- White House profile
- Chertoff to immigration bill's critics: Get real (USA Today - May 24, 2007)
- Cabinet members defend immigration plan (Kansas.com, KS - May 20, 2007)
- Lawmakers aim to revise immigration deal (Herald News Daily, ND - May 20, 2007)
- A Necessary First Step (American Progress Action Fund, DC - May 22, 2007)
- Bush, Congress close to deal on labor: Gutierrez (ABC News - May 10, 2007)
- JPL scrimmage over screenings heats up (Whittier Daily News, CA - May 24, 2007)
- Letter from Rep. Rush Holt to Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez Regarding Homeland Security Presidential Directive #12 (Space Ref (press release) - May 22, 2007)
- US-China talks not aimed at short-term: Gutierrez (Boston Globe, MA - May 22, 2007)
- Senate votes to reduce temporary visa workers (Burlington Hawk Eye, IA - May 24, 2007)
- Senator Bob Menendez, Democrat - New Jersey
- Senate web site | Bio
- US immigration deal heads into rough waters (Baku Today, Azerbaijan - May 18, 2007)
- Presidential hopefuls make mark in border debate (OCRegister, CA - May 24, 2007)
- Calculated compromise (Orange County Register, CA - May 18, 2007)
- Reunification, not separation (El Diario (New York), NY - May 23, 2007)
- NJ's federal prosecutor was target for firing (NorthJersey.com, NJ - May 18, 2007)
- Menendez, Lautenberg Seek Quick Exit (Bridgeton News, NJ - May 16, 2007)
- Guard training missions to continue despite fire (The Express Times, PA - May 21, 2007)
- Menendez Named Vice Chair of Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (Campaigns & Elections (press release) - May 16, 2007)
- Former Governor James Gilmore, Republican - Virginia
- Presidential Candidate | Campaign web site | Bio
- Gilmore Takes On GOP's Leading Candidates (Washington Post - May 19, 2007)
- Republicans Show Their Conservative Plumes (Post Chronicle - May 16, 2007)
- During Debate, Long Shots Take Shots (New York Sun, NY - May 15, 2007)
- Column: GOP's race to nowhere? (OCRegister, CA - May 6, 2007)
- Meet the 2008 GOP Candidates (NewsMax.com, FL - May 3, 2007)
- 2008: Immigration and the Trail (New York Times, NY - May 19, 2007)
- Roundtable:
- Jake Tapper
- Donna Brazile
- Ron Brownstein
- George Will
- ABC This Week comment web page
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posted on
05/26/2007 2:25:02 PM PDT
by
Phsstpok
To: A.Hun; Bahbah; Txsleuth; MNJohnnie; eeevil conservative; Alas Babylon!; Seattle Conservative; ...
PingThe Weekend Talk Show Preview Thread is up
It will also be cross posted to my blog at
http://wizards.townhall.com/
Here's a sample of my usually witty commentary...
... If we don't bow down before the shamnesty bill we are racist bigot homophope neanderthals. Yep, that's a persuasive argument to put before the conservative Republican base, name calling. Did Karl Rove have a stroke, or something? ...
... Bottom line, the DBM shows are covering the hot topics of the week (for a change) with an unusually monolithic spin that likely will leave our point of view out of the discussion. This week our work may be more important than normal and the need for us to correct and comment on these shows, particularly getting corrections out to media outlets and our own Senators and Representatives may be critical to what actually happens on these issues ...
Back from Hawaii. Great trip, though it felt a little rushed. Now, of course, I have nothing to look forward to for a long time... except for that trip to DisneyWorld next weekend... (it's business, give me a break!)
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posted on
05/26/2007 2:29:22 PM PDT
by
Phsstpok
(Often wrong, but never in doubt)
To: Phsstpok
Phsstpok, you are just another one of those jet setters.
The Beltway Boys just played the clip of the President saluting the Tuskeegee Airmen. Gets me every time.
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posted on
05/26/2007 3:12:48 PM PDT
by
Bahbah
(Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
To: Bahbah
The White House is not handling the PR on the immigration bill well at all...what else is new.
From Power Line:
Conservatives demonized by unlikely source
The White House communications operation is in overdrive promoting its immigration reform proposal. I’m getting three or more emails per day on the subject. I feel frustrated that the White House failed, in my view, to push this hard for initiatives I favor, or when it came to defending itself on Iraq.
I’m also frustrated that the White House fails to treat seriously the concerns conservatives have about its immigration package. The tendency instead is to misrepresent or demean our concerns and, to some extent, demonize us.
We see some of this in the latest column by Michael Gerson, who until recently was a key aide to President Bush. The title of Gerson’s piece is “Letting Fear Rule”; the subtitle is “Nativism Is a Recipe for Long-Term GOP Losses.” So before Gerson even gets to his analysis, conservatives with whom he disagrees stand accused of nativism and being ruled by fear.
It doesn’t get any better once Gerson starts arguing. He begins by comparing the thinking of opponents of immigration reform to that of the Congress that passed the “Chinese Exclusion Act.” But opponents of the administration’s package aren’t taking a position on how many immigrants should be allowed lawfully to enter the country; only on how those who have entered unlawfully should be treated. Thus, Gerson is unfair to mainstream conservative opponents of the reform package when he asserts that “anti-immigrant sentiment” is driving our opposition.
Indeed, many conservative opponents are not even stridently anti-illegal immigrant. John and I have said that amnesty (or whatever one wants to call the forgiveness advocated by the administration) should be on the table if the government proves it can secure our borders. It is our skepticism that the government can, or even seriously wants to do so that drives our opposition to amnesty-like proposals at this time.
Nor do most mainstream conservative opponents of the administration’s plan call for harsh measures against the illegals who are here, even in the absence of effective enforcement. John McCain and Michael Chertoff attack a straw man when they talk about the impossibility of deporting 12 million illegals. To my knowledge, very few conservatives are calling for mass deportations. We simply don’t want to make those who have entered the U.S. illegally more comfortable than are today until we are fully confident that doing so won’t result in increased illegal immigration, as occurred after the last amnesty deal.
Gerson next argues that Republicans shouldn’t worry about being voted into irrelevance by Hispanic voters if immigration reform passes; they should instead worry about this unhappy outcome if they block such reform. Again, my view is that if we secure our borders illegals who are already here eventually can be permitted to become citizens, and the political chips can fall where they may. But I think Gerson is wrong to discount the potential adverse political consequences associated with this. The issue isn’t really how Republicans will fare — modern parties probably can adjust to demographic changes. The issue is how conservatives will fare. I find it difficult to believe that the infusion of millions of low-skilled, poorly educated individuals into the electorate will be good for the conservative cause. It has never before been good for American conservatives, and I doubt things will work out better for conservatives in our modern entitlement-oriented, group victim mentality society.
This leads to Gerson’s final argument — that conservatives should not fear that American identity will be diluted by Latino immigration. As my last paragraph suggests, the real concern about Latino immigration may stem from the fact that the American identity has already been diluted, and not because of immigration. In any case, Gerson’s analysis once again is too facile. He bases his cultural optimism on the fact that Hispanics as a group are quite religious.
Now I’m as good a “Christianist” as the next Jewish Republican conservative, but I suspect Gerson is placing too much weight on religion here. The belief that matters most for purposes of this debate is not religious belief, but civic belief — not belief in God but belief in our institutions and love for our country. It is the latter kind of thinking, and only such thinking, that will result in successful assimilation. I’m not fully competent to assess the prospects here, but the anecdotal evidence doesn’t seem too favorable. In any case, Gerson’s argument from religion is unpersuasive.
Forgive me, then, if I tune out much of the White House propaganda on this issue. I don’t like having my intelligence or my character insulted.
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/017749.php
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posted on
05/26/2007 3:16:08 PM PDT
by
Bahbah
(Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
To: Phsstpok
Thank you, Phsstpok....you usual wonderful thread.
I am glad you had a good time, albeit too short, I am sure.
Say HI to Mickey Mouse for me next week...LOL
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posted on
05/26/2007 3:27:18 PM PDT
by
Txsleuth
To: Bahbah
Thank you for posting that, Bahbah.
I keep thinking that the White House must be so much smarter than I am...and I am just not “getting” their strategy when putting out their “public relations”...
I thought it would be clearer to me once Tony Snow came on board...
But, alas, I am still not getting “it”.
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posted on
05/26/2007 3:28:54 PM PDT
by
Txsleuth
To: Txsleuth
I think Tony has done a wonderful job in lots of ways, but, as Powerline points out, they should have been working the war the way they are working immigration, and they weren’t.
And then they call people on their side who find substantive problems with the bill stupid, or mean, or both. Who can figure that out?
I don’t base my opinion on what the WH says or doesn’t say, but gee, there was no reason to be insulting.
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posted on
05/26/2007 3:33:48 PM PDT
by
Bahbah
(Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
To: Bahbah
Oh lord, I should never listen to Neal Gabler. “Those who support the troops want to get them out of harm’s way.”
Does anyone understand what the military does? Why we have one? Who is supposed to be in harm’s way...Aunt Tillie? They are our defenders...thank God.
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posted on
05/26/2007 3:36:30 PM PDT
by
Bahbah
(Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
To: Bahbah
FINALLY!!!
I wondered when ONE person on the Fox News network would remark that there is something very wrong with talking about the WAR as a dem vs. GOP fight.
I just saw Cal Thomas actually mention that that is what is happening.
Even that ditz Jane Hall mentioned that IF that is the only way that it IS being regarded, then “someone” needs to do an expose of the votes made by Congress to find out WHY they vote/voted as they do!!!
It makes me SICK when I see Fred Barnes and Juan talking about who will “own” this war....now I realize these are “political” shows...but it is very distasteful...especially this weekend.
end of rant
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posted on
05/26/2007 3:42:55 PM PDT
by
Txsleuth
To: Phsstpok
A work of art one more time “P”!
Looks like yet another in a series of weak Sundays,typical of the mindset of the msm, don’t ever give any of our heavy hitters any air time unless absolutely necessary.
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posted on
05/26/2007 3:47:48 PM PDT
by
rodguy911
(Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
To: Bahbah
Truth is the easy way out is to just let the illegals come on in and shut up.
Keep taking the big bucks from huge corps that want to cut their costs and let those who ordinarily would be hammering nails, handling luggage or running farm equip. seek employment elsewhere, burger king or what ever is fine.
Worst part of the entire situation however is the lackadaisical attitude of both sides about securing an already porus and much abused border.
There is no excuse for this.
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posted on
05/26/2007 3:55:06 PM PDT
by
rodguy911
(Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
To: Bahbah
The tone didn’t start out too well when Chertoff began the week saying those of us opposed to The Bill either want a) to deport all immigrants and/or b) have them executed.
Today I read a piece by Eleanor Clift- she says we’re all bigots and Linda Chavez agrees with her judging by the piece she wrote this week..
I don’t think (going out on a limb here) either of them have READ the bill.
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posted on
05/26/2007 3:55:27 PM PDT
by
SE Mom
(Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
To: Bahbah
I also heard Neal Gabler say that...and it what set me off...and then when Cal actually brought up what I posted about..I forgot about Gabler’s very telling opinion.
However, Bah, as you and I know, from watching the House and Senate...his opinion is echoed by Congresscritters that should know how ridiculous that is...and some are even “veterans”...which goes back to my point about how this WAR is only being attended to by out politicians as a political “obstacle” or “opportunity” ...whichever side you are on...
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posted on
05/26/2007 4:04:53 PM PDT
by
Txsleuth
To: rodguy911
Hi rodguy...good to see you!!
Hope you and your family are doing well...
14
posted on
05/26/2007 4:06:26 PM PDT
by
Txsleuth
To: Txsleuth
Excellent rant, sleuthie. I cheered Cal for that. What in the world have we become? Well, not us per se.
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posted on
05/26/2007 4:32:15 PM PDT
by
Bahbah
(Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
To: rodguy911
Looks like yet another in a series of weak SundaysBut rodguy, we do have Senator Sessions!!!
16
posted on
05/26/2007 4:35:42 PM PDT
by
Bahbah
(Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
To: Phsstpok
Those years will merely be referred to generically as "vast experience."LOL. I see you have picked up on the plan here. Keep touting what a vast CV Richardson has, but never mention what a bungle he made of all of his high positions.
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posted on
05/26/2007 4:48:27 PM PDT
by
Bahbah
(Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
To: Phsstpok
Thanks Phsstpok!
I’m sorry but I have to yawn over the guest lineup. Maybe a few confrontations but bland for the most part, IMHO. I hope I’m wrong.
I must be blind or deft as to what Bush & Co are doing with their illegal immigration plan and I certainly am not thrilled with the line up this weekend.
I cannot look at the weekend lineup without the portion of Bernie Goldberg’s book, And Whimps To The Right Of Me, standing out.
Morgan
To: Phsstpok
Thanks Phsstpok. Glad you’re back from the vacation.
I’m sure you had a blast and deservedly so.
Daughter and new SIL got back from Hawaii last Saturday and have completed move from NYC to Atlanta.
Settling right in like old married folks. Ahh, to be young again.
:)
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posted on
05/26/2007 6:17:56 PM PDT
by
Chuck54
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To: Phsstpok
To believe this notion being spun by the DC Political Media Noise Machine that Saddam’s Iraq was “stable” and everything would of just been just hunky dory if we just had not invaded Iraq in 2003 requires one to ignore all factual reality.
Saddam had provoked two regional war, had directly attacked a third nation (Israel during the Gulf War) used WMDS against both the Iranians and his own people, was an open sponsor of Islamic terrorist groups, was under UN Economic Sanctions that required an open ended US/British Military commitment to "contain" him.
Iraq NOW is FAR more stable then it was under Saddam, the problems that are so hyped and exaggerated by the "News" media are IN Iraq were Saddam's Iraq was a regional threat.
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posted on
05/27/2007 2:21:52 AM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
(If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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