FL lawyer says Giuliani, Romney, McCain wrong on Schiavo case

OneNewsNow ^ | 5/28/07 | Jim Brown

[RobbyS]

Maybe not murdered, but certainly executed, because the state was the instrument of death.

[Clintonfatigued]

Thing is, if Terri Shaivo was murdered, than it’s up to the state. The Federal government has no say over state criminal statutes.

It is possible to do the right thing in the wrong way, and that was the case in Congress involving itself in this case.

Also not helping is that in most of the nation, the laws aren’t clear in these kinds of cases.

[MHGinTN]

Rudy, McCain, and Romney have one disturbing characteristic in common: all three operate on the premise that they can get away with saying one thing when visiting a state (when in Florida for instance, in the Terri Schiavo case), then change their tune in such a way as to alter the public perception of their position to make it ambiguous. This is slick politics, but when it is applied to issues that are life and death, slick is deadly and the candidates show they have no deeply held pro-life values with such slickness.

I was ready to give Mitt the benefit of reconsideration with his proclamation regaridng cloning, etc reshaping his beliefs, but the more I read of this man's slick responses to pro-life issues, the more I consider his responses to be slick, not fundamental values. Slick is deceitful in the main.

[MHGinTN]

With your dead soul perspective, I’m surprised you even bother to read Terri threads. But then MN is firmly liberal.

[Bigh4u2]

[big'ol_freeper]

You got that right.

[wagglebee]

Terri’s rights as a disabled person were protected under the Florida Constitution and under the American’s with Disabilities Act. The federal government has every right to involve itself when civil rights are violated.

[wagglebee]

It’s just a mattter of time before the other assorted trolls show up here.

I'm sure the WAckos will have fun discussing it on their new anti-FReeper site.

[Semper]

"If the government can kill you, you have no true liberty."

If the government can force the artificial prolonging of life, based upon the religious beliefs of others, you have no true liberty.

Also, in this case the government killed no one. The closest family member decided to stop the artificial prolonging of life which had dragged on for several years.

[wagglebee]

Rudy, McCain, and Romney have one disturbing characteristic in common: all three operate on the premise that they can get away with saying one thing when visiting a state (when in Florida for instance, in the Terri Schiavo case), then change their tune in such a way as to alter the public perception of their position to make it ambiguous.

It reminds me of the Clintons.

[wagglebee]

If the government can force the artificial prolonging of life, based upon the religious beliefs of others, you have no true liberty.

So, food and water are "artificial life support"?

The closest family member decided to stop the artificial prolonging of life which had dragged on for several years.

You mean the estranged and probably abusive husband who decided to starve and dehydrate Terri so he could spend Terri's money on his girlfriend and the illegitimate children they had together?

[MHGinTN]

Nice try ... the ‘closest family member’ was living with and raising a child with another female yet the Florida greerghoul refused to remove the adulterous husband from control over Terri’s life. You strike me as the type who thinks that’s just peachy. Says a lot about you and nothing about the case you fail to comprehend.

[tflabo]

The whole Terri Schiavo case was surreal. The courts literally thumbed their noses at congress and didn’t allow a reprieve or review of the case..just a hasty march to killing an innocent patient like she was a convicted felon. Terri’s family was ignored and devastated too.
“Vengeance is mine, I will repay saith the Lord”. Romans 12:19b

[wagglebee]

Very true.

[8mmMauser]

Also, in this case the government killed no one. The closest family member decided to stop the artificial prolonging of life which had dragged on for several years.

Actually the government helped hold Terri still so she could be killed. They helped a lot with a complicit judge and police and SWAT teams so she could die according to the judge's order.

Meanwhile, I just finished my own artificial life support, a sandwich, which included a drink of water. The LE's guarding Terri at that time did not allow her a drop, not one drop of water for that thirteen days.

Glad you brought this up. Maybe some new visitors will find out what really happened. The "closest family member" wanted her dead many years ago, just kept at it until with help from friends he could get the job done.

[Gondring]

I’m going to get blasted for saying this, but this should have been left at the state level. It’s unfortunate. I’m not wholly happy with how it turned out. But individual states have traditionally dealt with this issue.

Hey, watch it! If such things were kept at the state level, then there might be some consistency in pro-life arguments over Roe v. Wade and there might be some hope of making abortion illegal in some states. And that might put some anti-abortion activists out of a job, so just hush!

[Gondring]

The parents dragged things on for years, denying her rights. When that started, he was not with another woman, so it’s disingenuous to imply that was part of Mr. Schiavo’s motive for seeing her wishes carried out.

[Gondring]

The courts literally thumbed their noses at congress

Did you get a picture of that? I've never seen one!

[Gondring]

Terri was tap dancing and juggling 6 oranges when her scurrilous husband shot her in the back of the head. At least that’s what I pieced together from reading these threads.

You forgot the part about how all these FReepers knew her better than her husband.

[freekitty]

That’s right. This woman was allowed to be murdered by the cowards of our system; not by our Constitution. They also allowed that worthless sack of you know what husband and his attorneys to get away with murder.

Remember, Michael, what goes around comes around 10 fold and I have never seen it fail.