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Minister undergoes sex change
Religion and Spirituality ^ | May 28, 2007

Posted on 05/28/2007 11:43:56 AM PDT by Zakeet

A United Methodist minister in Baltimore informed the Baltimore-Washington Conference of the United Methodist Church of a name change, along with a change of gender. The former Rev. Ann Gordon now reportedly adopted a male identity as Rev. Drew Phoenix.

The issue will be discussed Thursday at a closed session during the Baltimore-Washington Annual Conference of The United Methodist Church in Washington, D.C. The minister's name change is already reflected on her church's website, www.stjohnsbaltimore.org, Christian Newswire reported Tuesday.

In 2002, the Baltimore-Washington Conference had a similar controversy, when Rev. Richard Zimostny had a sex change operation and became Rebecca Steen. That minister's request to return to the active pastorate was ultimately sidetracked and Zimostny/Steen left the ministry.

The United Methodist Church has no explicitly stated, official policies regarding sexual identity changes or sex change operations, but does officially disapprove of homosexual behavior. Rev. Phoenix' congregation supports the "Reconciling" movement within United Methodism, which campaigns to overturn the church's official teachings on marriage and sexual ethics.

Institute for Religion and Democracy Director of UMAction Mark Tooley commented, "Christianity, in contrast to gnosticism and much of current popular culture in America, rejects the suggestion that sexual identity is merely a state of mind or a preference. Gender and physicality, in Christian and Jewish teaching, are intrinsically linked to God's order of creation, as first described in Genesis. The God whom we worship knew us as male or female before He created us. Gender is not a choice but a reality.

"Someone struggling with sexual identity issues needs the ministry and guidance of the church. But the church would be wrong to bless a so-called sexual identity change, with or without surgery."


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KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; mentalillness; methodist; moralabsolutes; sexchange; transexual
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ST. JOHN'S OF BALTIMORE CITY
A Reconciling United Methodist Congregation

WE WORSHIP A RADICALLY INCLUSIVE GOD!

More about the church, including their Monday and Wednesday T'ai Chi Classes, here.

1 posted on 05/28/2007 11:43:59 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

The minister thanks Snap-On-Tools for their support.


2 posted on 05/28/2007 11:47:13 AM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: Zakeet
Places like that are degenerate social clubs, not churches.

They just use the religion angle for tax breaks and to provide a veneer of respectability for those yokels who have not caught on to their pernicious nature.

3 posted on 05/28/2007 11:47:48 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Zakeet

None of this would have happened if Methodist ministers were allowed to marry a man, er, a woman, er.....


4 posted on 05/28/2007 11:48:42 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: TommyDale

I thought it was Strap-On-Tools...


5 posted on 05/28/2007 11:50:43 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Zakeet
I'm so glad. I'm so tired of all the remarks about Episcopalians.

(BTW: Ann ----------> Drew... Clever?)

6 posted on 05/28/2007 11:51:31 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Of all that I have accomplished, the thing that I am proudest of is that I have a good heart. ~Oprah)
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To: Zakeet
...reportedly adopted a male identity as Rev. Drew Phoenix

Drew Phoenix? Where'd s/he get that name - a comic book?

7 posted on 05/28/2007 11:51:34 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Zakeet
Drew Phoenix

Sounds like a porn name.

8 posted on 05/28/2007 11:53:19 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

If she switches back, rumor has it that she will be named Amazon Rivers.


9 posted on 05/28/2007 11:53:35 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Zakeet

If God really wanted her to have a weenie.....


10 posted on 05/28/2007 11:57:18 AM PDT by badpacifist (I am holier than a CTU perimeter.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Sounds like a porn name.

You discovered the Reverend's moonlighting gig.

11 posted on 05/28/2007 11:59:11 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
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To: badpacifist

.....he would have married one.
(There, I finished it for ya.) ;)


12 posted on 05/28/2007 12:02:04 PM PDT by derllak
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To: mtbopfuyn

LOL, good one. That reminded me of a radio talk host that had people call in and tell him their first pet’s name and the name of the street they grew up on. Then you combine the pet’s name and the street name for your “porn name”. Mine turned out to be Ginger Swayze. LOL


13 posted on 05/28/2007 12:02:58 PM PDT by Hornet19 (Conservative since birth, Republican no more.)
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To: Zakeet
The former Rev. Ann Gordon now reportedly adopted a male identity as Rev. Drew Phoenix.

And she's gonna get an addadicktomy. It's a brave new world.

14 posted on 05/28/2007 12:03:20 PM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: Hornet19

Mine would be Skipper Haywood


15 posted on 05/28/2007 12:05:52 PM PDT by heywaitadarnminute (This post happens between 12 AM and 12 PM)
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To: Hornet19

Frisky Oakland


16 posted on 05/28/2007 12:07:21 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Zakeet
More homo stuff on Memorial Day.

Remember.

17 posted on 05/28/2007 12:07:36 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: cowboyway

This is equivalent to the Republicans signing on to the immigration bill. I guess the Methodists envy the schism in the Anglican fellowship.


18 posted on 05/28/2007 12:07:55 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: cowboyway

You probably couldn’t tell it wasn’t a man (baby) anyway.


19 posted on 05/28/2007 12:08:26 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Zakeet

What Edwards and his gummy bears have done today is exactly the same as if his wife or other family member were to die and his opponents continued to campaign against him relentlessly without cutting him or his family any slack......pretty despicable bunch, aren’t they?

(posted this comment here because I suspect Edwards supporters would be interested in the progress of faggot activism trumpeted in this article)


20 posted on 05/28/2007 12:09:39 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Zakeet
Rev. Ann Gordon now reportedly adopted a male identity as Rev. Drew Phoenix.

What a clever name; a male, rising from the ashes of his former female self. GAG!

As far as I know, God has always been inclusive, but expects those who choose to follow Him of also following His Commandments. He won't exclude you, but you exclude yourself, by not doing so.

These folks don't worship God; they worship their oh so tolerant, non-judgemental, inclusive selves.

21 posted on 05/28/2007 12:10:30 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Zakeet

It isn’t only the sex change that these individuals want to promote - they want political change too. And there is no congruence betweeen these two concepts, gender identification and politics. The separate traits are two totally different facets of individual makeup.

One wishes they would not mix them up. Or if they choose to pursue one, do not be making assertions favoring the other as well.


22 posted on 05/28/2007 12:11:30 PM PDT by alloysteel (Choose carefully the hill you would die upon. For if you win, the view is magnificent.)
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To: Zakeet
Gender is part of the Gift of what we are

We do not so much own the Gift as we have Stewardship
Denying the Gift is to deny the Giver of all Gifts

I understand error is everywhere, including myself
But to teach error is a great evil,
especially in one who entrusted with
teaching the Vision of Christ’s purpose for our life

Wrong in so many ways, I have difficulty forming these words

23 posted on 05/28/2007 12:18:15 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Zakeet

So she had an “addadictomy” operation?


24 posted on 05/28/2007 12:18:55 PM PDT by Grunthor (I am a GREAT sinner but I have a GREATER Saviour.)
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To: Zakeet

Why don’t they just whip out the Golden Calf while they’re at it? Maybe some nice Baal worship for the occasion...


25 posted on 05/28/2007 12:19:25 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Zakeet

Does s/he think that God didn’t get it right??

I don’t think I’d have much faith in this fellow-ette.


26 posted on 05/28/2007 12:20:19 PM PDT by bannie
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27 posted on 05/28/2007 12:25:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

No, the Methodists are just trying to catch up with the PCUSA.


28 posted on 05/28/2007 12:32:04 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Zakeet

Drew Phoenix? I guess that’s one Phoenix which won’t rise again.


29 posted on 05/28/2007 12:34:39 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Zakeet

Minister? Minister of WHAT precisely! God is not radical, blasphemy should be!


30 posted on 05/28/2007 12:35:34 PM PDT by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: Zakeet

Genesis 1

27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

I do not know how clear this can be made
God Created, in what way can we deny that creation
without great error?

And this in one to whom has entrusted with the task of instruction of the Laity
regarding Christ’s purpose for our lives.

Abomination!


31 posted on 05/28/2007 12:36:07 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: TommyDale

Maybe s(he) can get a date with Barney Frank.


32 posted on 05/28/2007 12:36:54 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: LibFreeOrDie; mtbopfuyn
Video game.

BTW, the game's a scream. My daughter loves it. But she wants to be a vet, not a lawyer like mom . . . .

33 posted on 05/28/2007 12:44:01 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Hornet19
Magnificat Conway?

Nah, our pets have really weird names.

34 posted on 05/28/2007 12:45:30 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Zakeet
As Diogenes said on his Catholic World News website:

CONVERSION OF THE GENITALS
35 posted on 05/28/2007 12:45:45 PM PDT by jobim
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To: ichabod1

Anita Bone


36 posted on 05/28/2007 12:48:18 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Zakeet

Wesley Covenant Prayer

The Prayer
I am no longer my own, but thine.
Put me to what thou wilt, rank me with whom thou wilt.
Put me to doing, put me to suffering.
Let me be employed by thee or laid aside for thee,
exalted for thee or brought low for thee.
Let me be full, let me be empty.
Let me have all things, let me have nothing.
I freely and heartily yield all things to thy pleasure and disposal.
And now, O glorious and blessed God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit,
thou art mine, and I am thine.
So be it.
And the covenant which I have made on earth,
let it be ratified in heaven.
Amen.

Please live in Hope that the Methodist Church remembers it’s Covenant Prayer and life in Christ.


37 posted on 05/28/2007 12:54:37 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Zakeet

Reminds me of the song, “I’ve looked at love from both sides now.”


38 posted on 05/28/2007 12:55:31 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Zakeet
"Christianity, in contrast to gnosticism and much of current popular culture in America, rejects the suggestion that sexual identity is merely a state of mind or a preference. Gender and physicality, in Christian and Jewish teaching, are intrinsically linked to God's order of creation, as first described in Genesis. The God whom we worship knew us as male or female before He created us. Gender is not a choice but a reality."

Right on the money. It's good to know there are still some sensible people in the UMA.

One of the essential aspects of Christianity, like Judaism, is that it believes that reality is, well, real, whereas the pop cultists think that reality is a social construct. Everyone has a right to construct his own reality, as SCOTUS said in the Casey decision.

But God's creation doesn't work that way.

39 posted on 05/28/2007 1:00:31 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SuziQ
What a clever name; a male, rising from the ashes of his former female self.

Or a non-dragon changing into a pride-hewn ox. < ;)

40 posted on 05/28/2007 1:05:34 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Evil never sleeps.)
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To: Hornet19

Mine would be Smoky Elm. Hey, I kinda like that!


41 posted on 05/28/2007 1:09:26 PM PDT by True-Stu
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To: Hornet19
I'll play

Peter Warpath.

ok. I cheated. Peter is current pet's name. But, I grew up on Warpath Drive.

42 posted on 05/28/2007 1:09:54 PM PDT by don-o (“I don`t expect Politicians to solve anyones problems...The world owes us nothing” Bob Dylan)
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To: Zakeet
Ann Gordon/Drew Phoenix
43 posted on 05/28/2007 1:18:19 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

Ewww, s/he looks a little like Andy Dick (no pun intended).


44 posted on 05/28/2007 1:33:30 PM PDT by Evie Munchkin (Democrats - Party of death and taxes)
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To: Hornet19

Mine would be ‘Brown Utah’ ... but then I wouldn’t be in porn anyway.


45 posted on 05/28/2007 1:37:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Zakeet
A United Methodist minister... Flag Number One.

Rev. Drew Phoenix.Flag Number Two.

Okay, a United Methodist Transsexual walks into the afterlife, and St. Pete says..."No, I'm sorry, but there's no 'Drew Phoenix' written here in the Book of Life, sir. But you can catch the subway right here in about two minutes. Careful, it's very hot."

Seriously, changing a last name say "I despise the family I came from and renounce it." My former (now ex, thankfully) sister-in-law, the militant Liberal feminist that ran out on my brother by sleeping with the top lawyer at a law firm where she was studying divorce law while my brother paid her tab like he paid for everything else in her self-worshiping, nonproductive existence, so despised her father that she changed her last name from Davis to "Lavoisier", a famous French woman chemist. If she was changing her entire name, I suspect a LOT more issues under the surface. (Probably legions of ones, if you know what I mean.)

46 posted on 05/28/2007 1:47:32 PM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: HangnJudge

Once again, in footsteps of the Serpant, we are SO much smarter than the God who made us all. Hubris! Bah!


47 posted on 05/28/2007 1:49:06 PM PDT by 50sDad (Angels on asteroids are abducting crop circles!)
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To: 50sDad
Once again, in footsteps of the Serpant, we are SO much smarter than the God who made us all. Hubris! Bah!

Adomination comes to mind
48 posted on 05/28/2007 2:32:11 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: MHGinTN
"Mine would be ‘Brown Utah’..."

Mine is Phoebe Fulton; wow, I really like mine!

49 posted on 05/28/2007 6:22:42 PM PDT by Irene Adler (')
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To: Zakeet

These stories get stranger and stranger!


50 posted on 05/28/2007 7:22:03 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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