Posted on 05/28/2007 5:25:38 PM PDT by Baladas
WASHINGTON, May 25 — Angry calls poured into Senator Jon Kyl’s office this week by the thousands, expressing outrage beyond anything he said he had witnessed in his 20-year political career. The callers were inflamed by Mr. Kyl’s role in shaping the bipartisan immigration compromise announced May 17, which lawmakers continue to debate.
“Yes, I have learned some new words from some of my constituents,” Mr. Kyl, an Arizona Republican, said at a news conference on Thursday, drawing titters from those in the room.
Mr. Kyl, 65, who garners top ratings from conservative groups every year, is the unlikely lynchpin to the fragile alliance of Democrats and Republicans trying to push the sprawling immigration bill through the Senate.
An ardent foe of the immigration bill that passed the Senate last year but was later stymied by House Republicans, Mr. Kyl is seen as essential to attracting conservative Republicans to the new proposal. As his party’s conference chairman, Mr. Kyl is the third-ranking Republican in the Senate and a fervent spokesman for conservative principles.
Although the bill’s backers have praised Mr. Kyl for his political courage, his about-face was not ushered in by either a high-minded refusal to demagogue on the issue or a conscious summoning of historic compromises from the Senate’s past.
A technocrat who has labored in Arizona in the shadow of his much more visible colleague, Senator John McCain, Mr. Kyl has traditionally shunned the spotlight and worked behind the scenes immersed in the details of legislation. It was that affinity for working in the trenches on policy, and pragmatism about the art of legislating, that led him to become a legislative partner of Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat who has been a major voice for immigration overhaul.
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At what point do the politicians realize that the people overwhelmingly oppose immigration?
From what I gather, he deserves the outrage for his switch. Keep pouring it on........
Brains baking in the sun out there or what?
I think it turned him into a different kind of rod. I’ll elaborate no further. =)
Lol! He drew titters?? You’re pretty good at that too, from what I hear!
The media can keep repeating this all they like, if the GOP did not want a Kennedy bill to pass they could filibuster it. Kyl is going along with it because he supports amnesty and guest worker programs and not because he didn't have a choice.
I believe the majority of the senators have dementia, as they apparently cannot remember what happened in the 64 and 86 immigration solve all bill by orchestrated by Senor’ Kennedy..I am not working tomorrow and am going to call all day starting at 6 am...
You are soooo bad.....
They knew even before they wrote this bill,obviously they just don’t honor the concept of representative government.I think the fix was in a long time ago,he’s been bought and paid for.
Get it? Whenever you surrender to the Communists, it's "pragmatism".
No dementia,they know exactly what they are doing.Once again,special interests trump the will of the American people.
At what point do the politicians realize that the people overwhelmingly oppose illegal immigration?
Fixed it for you.
The politicians seem to have viewed taxpayers as mere unpleasant field slaves for so long, they just might actually be sincere in being shocked that we are not.
And that we don’t want a new class of slaves here.
We want the illegal alien slave trade ended, not given a new “designation”.
Enforce the laws already on the books against the US employers who hire illegal aliens, and build the fence around the border.
Enforcement first.
Pics, pics, and if they’re that good, more pics!
Someone on another thread speculated that he had been offered a post as a federal judge if he did this for Bush.
I don’t know whether that was speculation or based on knowledge of some kind. But I doubt whether Kyl suddenly turned stupid. Evidently he was working very hard as a point man for one of Bush’s pet projects.
I heard a radio talkshow host(sorry I forgot his name) point something out about the bill that I haven’t heard anywhere else and its important to take in. If all these illegal immigrants get visas then they wont be hireable for the jobs they are currently doing. They are hired for the very reason that they ARE illegal. Businesses don’t want to pay them as much as legal immigrants and they don’t want them on the books like they have to do with legal immigrants and citizens. Having them on the books means the IRS can calculate the payroll budget and see if its in line with gross revenues. If its not, audit time. So even if the illegals get visas, the demand for illegals wont go down. Either the newly legalized immigrants will be told that their pay will have to continue to be “under the table” like its always been or a flood of fresh illegals will step in to take their place.
email: comments@whitehouse.gov.
Yes, thank you, Arizona. Just what do we American have to do to get the idiots we alledgedly elected to do the right thing? We are getting robbed, raped and murdered out here. Our jobs are going south and it’s all on our own nickel that we pay in taxes. We can’t afford to go to work anymore because gas is so high and I take the bus. We can’t afford to do anything. This is America and this is not what it should be.
If they “convert” the ilegals, then the next wave will begin.
By hook or by crook, these guys are going to pass it. It has been mandated by the shadow gubmint, and by it’s frontman, GWB.
All of the current illegals that are made legal will go on the public dole, and start importing their relatives, and a new crop of illegals will take their former jobs.
What about the Soros illegal alien line:
1-800-417-7666
They lament the high ($5000) fine! The clowns will file and get the money from “earned income” credits etc. After that out tax money is all theirs. I am not as mad about condemning IRS as others because it is CONGRESS that makes the laws. In essence, IRS has been turned into a welfare agency for those who work off the books, are on welfare, etc. etc.
Soon, soon, very soon, we will have “millions of Americans” below the poverty level and WE WILL PAY FOR THESE ILLEGALS!
I am sick and tired of the Libs trotting out Kids who will be separated from their illegal parents. Their parent did that to them, not I nor the US. Send them back. The parents are illegal, so the kids are biorn to those subject to a foreign power - therefor ILLEGAL and NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS.
Sen. KYL enforce current law and throw them out.
He got an 8 oz glass of arsenic with a tablespoon of milk in it. Congratulations on the milk, Hero.
Also, I wonder what words he just learned from his constituents that caused his little pals to titter so. Traitor, Betrayer, Backstabber, Liar, Quisling, Enemy Within, Fifth Columnist...
I guess a federal judgeship isn't exactly small change, but I think a person who would buy a judgeship by selling out his alleged principles will make a very poor judge.
The good news is that judges can be impeached.
There’s something rotten in the state of Arizona.
Bottom line is, all we’re doing is just kicking the can a little further down the road. Two years from now, instead of looking for those who are in the country and have no ‘documents’, we’ll be looking for those who got one of the free life-long probationary visas, then never turned up to complete the process. And when the first one is found and scheduled for a deportation hearing, we’ll get the same news stories about ‘families that are being destroyed’, and Congress will change the law. It’s a scam, pure and simple.
You got that right. And they will lose their jobs. Why hire a newly legal immigrant who can sue you, demand better working conditions, and claim all the rights of citizens when an illegal immigrant CAN’T do any of these things. Oh you’re legal? You’re fired. Hey illegal immigrant you want a job?
You forget to count the RINOs. We don’t have 40 votes.
After winning a bruising re-election battle last November in which immigration featured prominently,
I am sure the NYT did not do it on purpose but they actually explained Kyl’s position here. In November he was up for reelection so had to say what the constituents wanted to hear him say to get reelected. He will not be running again so doesn’t care now what people say. He has taken a ‘screw you’ attitude. What a fraudulent shyster he is. If Kyl is one of the most conservative that the Republicans have, they are in deep doo doo and so is this country and the American people.
They are gonna add 40-70 million people to the welfare roles.
I don’t understand why business is behind this bill when they are just going to keep on hiring illegals regardless and have to help foot the welfare tax bill for the legalized immigrants they wont hire in the first place. This is nothing more than an attempt by the democratic party to load their membership and destroy the republican party. It will take another 50 years for the failed policies of liberalism and the shear logic of conservative ideas to get another republican presidency and congress.
We could have 40 counting the 10 democrats or so if the supposed conservatives like Kyl, Isaakson. Chambliss, Lott and others hadn’t done a 180 sellout. I keep hoping they realize the damage they’re causing and come back around but I’m not holding my breath...
Apparently Teddy Kennedy is a heckuva lot smarter than what represents the GOP right now.
Maybe Mr. Kyl should be more interested in getting “amnesty” to border agents Ramos and Campean instead of giving “amnesy” to lawbreaking illegal invaders.
Plus, if this amnesty goes through how many terrorists, rapists will get a z card?
Yup. You can read about John Kyl's history and how he always wanted to be a judge here: "The Federal Observer," Once Upon A Time there was a Senator named Jon Kyl.... Part 1. Judas Kyl & his 'Thirty Pieces of Silver'
http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=11591
Excerpt:
"Rather than having to run for re-election periodically trying to convince voters not to hold him accountable for his voting record, he really wanted to be a judge. Not just a county or state judge, but a federal judge with a lifetime appointment regardless of the outrageous decisions he might deliver or how blatantly he pandered to special interests or powerful politicians."
Actually I do know why Business is behind this bill. They want to take the wind out of the sails of the enforcement movement. The growing movement that wants the government to simply enforce the laws on the books. The movement with the best, most cost effect answer to the illegal immigration problem which is to force businesses to not hire them. If they are punitively prevented from hiring illegals then most illegals will go home of their own free will. No CCN footage of illegals being rounded up and loaded on buses. This bill is cover for business. They know that they wont hire the newly legal immigrants. They know that they will continue to hire the flood of illegal immagrants all to happy to fill the void. They know this bill will deflect the enforcement movement.
WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!
Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them.
“The media can keep repeating this all they like, if the GOP did not want a Kennedy bill to pass they could filibuster it. Kyl is going along with it because he supports amnesty and guest worker programs and not because he didn’t have a choice.”
Correct. He was pandering for votes last year. this is his true face.
NYTimes is in lockstep with Bush on memes and spin. Kyl’s “needs” need not be satisfied, the bill would pass in the Senate with or without him.
What is necessary is to not educate the public about the bill’s particulars. One way is to demonize, the other way is to proclaim “bipartisanship” . the latter will fail and Bush we revert to demonization.
Kyl is a deceitful liar, Bush’s type of guy.
The democrats must have something on him.
It isn't just the NY Times either, the Washington Post was actually giving Bush advice about doing more to push the bill and magically the next day he started doing so with his press conference. These papers know the millions of democrats this will add and so does Bush.
No Patriot Votes Republican Again. You have been HOSED too often by the Bush Brothers and dad.
Conservative Third Party?
By Basil Harrington
“The GOP is on a downward course to becoming the party of corporate globalism, not conservatism,” said one analyst recently. “Unless Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul or Duncan Hunter receives the 2008 nomination, conservatives will have no choice but to vote third party,” said another.
Conservatives all around the country are talking about the prospect of flocking to a conservative third party*, which more than likely would be the Constitution Party or the America First Party. If they were smart, they would look at the British National Party, Front National, and Vlaams Belang in Europe as models, all of which have made great strides. And unlike the phony neocon GOP in the U.S., these parties are conservative in the true sense: they want to conserve Western man and his ancestral traditions.
How has the GOP gone wrong?
First, there is no greater betrayal than over immigration. So tied to providing cheap labor for big business, all but two Republican Senators recently voted against Senator Dorgan’s amendment to scrap a guest-worker program that will overwhelmingly drive down American wages. They have sided with the corporate globalists against hard-working Americans.
There is a third-world invasion of the U.S. taking place, and many in the GOP (e.g. Bush, McCain, Giuliani, Brownback, Huckabee, Rice, et al.) have actually sided with the invaders against their fellow Americans. As Jean Raspail said in Camp of the Saints, the “best conservative book ever written,” we can make a stand now against the invaders, or we can watch the West crumble and become a third-world wasteland.
Second, the neocon war in Iraq must come to an end. The transformation of the Middle East to liberal democracy is Jacobin, not conservative. It’s a product of Wilsonian utopianism, not conservatism. If we really want to end terrorism in the West, we need to (1) completely withdraw from the Middle East, (2) end foreign aid to all Middle Eastern countries, (3) deport all Muslims from the West, and (4) end all immigration from the third world.
Many do not realize it, but terrorism is primarily an immigration issue, as they are beginning to discover in the U.K. Three of the terrorists recently nabbed in New Jersey (plotting to attack Ft. Dix) were illegal immigrants who entered the U.S . from Mexico and were aided by Mexicans. Over 200,000 Hispanics in the U.S. have recently converted to Islam. And almost all previous terrorists, including those on Sept. 11, were either legal or illegal third-world immigrants. If Seung-Hui Cho had not been allowed to immigrate to the U.S., the Virginia Tech massacre would not have happened.
Third, free trade is destroying our economy and eroding away our sovereignty, and it must end. Historically, conservatives have opposed free trade, and they should, but many in the GOP have been “neoconned” on this issue and now support it in some perverse suicide pact.
The Democratic Party, which during the 19th century was the conservative party while the GOP was the radical left-wing party, is already lost to the globalists. And now it seems that the Republican Party is going the same route. Unless radical change is brought about in the GOP, conservatives will have no choice but foster third-party change.
The stakes are right. The U.S. is on its way to becoming a third-world wasteland. We must act now!
That and the ton's of money he is raking in from the meat-packers and the chamber of commerce.
IOW, Kyl is a political prostitute, who is willing to sell out his country for his own personal ego-stroking.
I wonder how his ego will feel, when history brands him a Quisling traitor?
How many times has Kyl raised his right hand, with his left hand on a Bible, and sworn to uphold the Constitution?
U.S. Constitution, Article 4 Section 4:
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,
1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.
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