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North Oregon Coast Beach Reveals Ancient Ghost Forest Again
Beach Connection ^ | 5/28/07 | Unknown

Posted on 05/29/2007 3:32:10 AM PDT by Renfield

Arch Cape, Oregon) – The mysterious chunks of wood have shown up periodically over the last few decades, sticking out of the sand like doomed creatures trying to make their last, desperate escape from a dreadful fate beneath the rest of the world. They make momentary impressions on passersby, who have no clue to the real meaning of these muted witnesses to an age practically before Mankind. They are unintentional memorials to the grandiose forest that once stood here, now reduced to twisted, tortured shapes that scream silently from another epoch.



TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: beach; catastrophism; forest; godsgravesglyphs; littoral; oregon; pleistocene
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1 posted on 05/29/2007 3:32:13 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: Renfield
These muted witnesses to an age practically before Mankind.

[SNIP]

He says these stumps are almost 4,000 years old.

Don't see too many journalists with a YEC viewpoint. Interesting.

2 posted on 05/29/2007 3:36:20 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: Renfield
He says these stumps are almost 4,000 years old.

he says a hell of a lot more than that:

doomed creatures; last, desperate escape; a dreadful fate beneath the rest of the world; reduced to twisted, tortured shapes that scream silently

...my goodness.
3 posted on 05/29/2007 4:03:47 AM PDT by 4buttons
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To: Renfield

Sounds like one of the Cascadia events.


4 posted on 05/29/2007 4:08:00 AM PDT by djf (Skulz wurk gud! My last Wopper was purfict!)
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To: 4buttons
If this article had been written by Allen Ginsberg:

I saw the best trees of my generation destroyed by
madness, starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through the negro streets at
dawn looking for an angry fix,
angelheaded saplings burning for the ancient
heavenly connection to the starry dynamo in the
machinery of night ...

5 posted on 05/29/2007 4:08:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Ping!.....sorta............


6 posted on 05/29/2007 5:32:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: Renfield

The article can’t be correct. Now that global warming has raised sea levels, exposure wouldn’t be possible.


7 posted on 05/29/2007 6:54:09 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh
The article can’t be correct. Now that global warming has raised sea levels, ...

Actually, I think the line goes more like, "Global warming WILL raise sea levels unless we (you, not I) do something about it -- NOW!"

8 posted on 05/29/2007 7:03:01 AM PDT by LantzALot
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To: Renfield

I will be up that away this September and try to see for myself.


9 posted on 05/29/2007 7:06:47 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: Red Badger; 75thOVI; AFPhys; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; ...
Thanks Red Badger
Roger Hart... says these stumps are almost 4,000 years old... "Curt Peterson and I published a radiocarbon on a sample taken from the Arch Cape stumps in 1998," Hart said. "The age is 3,660 with an error of 70. This means these trees died at that time, were buried in sand, and have been preserved under a cover of sand until now. From the photos it appears that the stumps are more extensively exposed now than in 1998."
So now they're 3,669 years old. [rimshot!] The RC age is *not* a reference to when the trees died, but rather to the age of the ring (or rings) which were tested. The catastrophe which buried all this stuff is less than that -- perchance 3,450 years? ;')
 
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10 posted on 05/29/2007 10:33:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 26, 2007.)
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11 posted on 05/29/2007 10:36:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 26, 2007.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Noah with his SUV-like Ark and caused Globall Warming and the trees all died?...........


12 posted on 05/29/2007 10:37:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: Renfield
twisted, tortured shapes that scream silently from another epoch?

It was a dark and stormy night . . .

13 posted on 05/29/2007 10:39:22 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Red Badger

Yeah, that must have been the problem, although Noah lived a while before this. :’)


14 posted on 05/29/2007 10:39:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 26, 2007.)
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To: Red Badger

Saruman lied, trees died.


15 posted on 05/29/2007 10:40:00 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living insult to islam since 1959.)
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To: Renfield

remnnants of Noah’s flood.


16 posted on 05/29/2007 10:41:35 AM PDT by balch3
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To: SunkenCiv

I have read a serious article that speculates that Noah’s Flood was due, in part, to to ancient Globull Warming.........


17 posted on 05/29/2007 10:42:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: aimhigh
Now that global warming has raised sea levels, exposure wouldn’t be possible.

I'm stumped..........

18 posted on 05/29/2007 10:43:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: razorback-bert

Ah, I miss the Oregon Coast! Bring me back a growler of Pelican Pub Riptide Red Ale!


19 posted on 05/29/2007 10:44:39 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: Red Badger

Heh... the bursting of ice dams holding back inland glacial meltwater lakes (at least two such events have been documented) could have raised world sealevel in fairly short order, since the thaw was going on all over the place simultaneously. (’:


20 posted on 05/29/2007 11:19:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 26, 2007.)
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To: Renfield

21 posted on 05/29/2007 11:21:05 AM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: uglybiker

COOL!! Oregon and Washington Beaches are the GREATEST!


22 posted on 05/29/2007 11:23:22 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: uglybiker

Thanx for the pic.Nice to get a visual:)


23 posted on 05/29/2007 11:29:50 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: Renfield
I have a 380 million year old forest sticking out of the rocks about an hour south of me in NY...

see: http://www.nyc.gov/html/dep/html/press/00-49pr.html

24 posted on 05/29/2007 2:44:41 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: SunkenCiv

That’s possible, but don’t forget that Oregon lies along the “Ring of Fire”; I think tectonism is probably the more likely candidate here, given the proposed dates of the ghost-forest.


25 posted on 05/29/2007 3:21:23 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: ClearCase_guy

and would the title of that article been “Bark!” instead of “Howl!”?


26 posted on 05/29/2007 3:47:17 PM PDT by Pelham (theTerryAndersonShow.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

http://www.ditt.it/eng/promozione_civilta_passato.htm

http://www.ditt.it/ima/01_civilta_del_passato.jpg

Dunarobba fossil forest
Avigliano Umbro
The peculiarity of these impressive archaeological finds is that the fossil trunks have kept their erect position and their woody structure. They date back to 3 million years ago and they reach 5 feet in diameter.

(3 million YO and NOT fossilized?)

http://www.internacional.edu.ec/publicaciones/arco_iris/001/english/magazine001.htm

The Petrified Forest of Argentina is located in the patagonian steppe, without practically any visible vegetation. It has an extension of 14000 hectares (34000 acres).

http://www.internacional.edu.ec/publicaciones/arco_iris/001/english/magazine001.htm

Meanwhile, in the Alps:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,druck-357366,00.html

Radical new theory

The tree trunk in the ice is part of a huge climatic puzzle that Joerin is analyzing for his doctoral thesis for the Institute for Geological Science at the University of Bern. And he is coming to an astonishing conclusion. The fact that the Alpine glaciers are melting right now appears to be part of regular cycle in which snow and ice have been coming and going for thousands of years...


27 posted on 05/29/2007 4:10:22 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Renfield; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; coffeebreak; ...
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28 posted on 05/29/2007 5:16:55 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Fred Nerks

“...(3 million YO and NOT fossilized?)....”

In Hill County, Montana, in 1989, I pulled a mussel shell out of the wall of a coulee. The sediments in which I found the shell were of late Cretaceous age, somewhere around 65-70 million years. The shell wasn’t fossilized at all...it looked like I had just plucked it right out of a creek. The mother-of-pearl was clear and beautiful.


29 posted on 05/29/2007 6:14:07 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: Renfield

http://www.maine.gov/doc/nrimc/mgs/explore/surficial/facts/oct00-5c.htm

An example of a fossilized shell.

http://www.maine.gov/doc/nrimc/mgs/explore/surficial/facts/oct00.htm

Personally, I think if I found this, I would not know if the shell was a fossil or not...


30 posted on 05/29/2007 9:05:46 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: RightWhale

In the distance a dog barked.


31 posted on 05/29/2007 9:07:04 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: hunter112

India Pelican Ale


32 posted on 05/29/2007 9:07:48 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart

Another great beer! I’ve been getting into the IPA’s that are available on this coast, and I had my first four-pack of Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA, wow! 9% alcohol, and more hops per bottle than a truckload of Coors!


33 posted on 05/30/2007 8:22:44 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: Fred Nerks; Red Badger

Thanks! I’ve never gone seeking petrified wood, but once touched some petrified stumps in the courtyard of a hotel I stayed at in Tucumcari NM.


34 posted on 05/30/2007 8:56:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 26, 2007.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Petrified wood can be found in MISSISSIPPI, too, of all places! When I was a kid, I coud dig pieces of it from the clay pits on my grandfather’s farm..........


35 posted on 05/30/2007 8:58:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: Renfield

I agree — the Lake Missoula event was much earlier. Looking just at terrestrial causes, an offshore quake and/or subsidence event looks like the culprit here.


36 posted on 05/30/2007 9:00:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 26, 2007.)
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To: Renfield
He says these stumps are almost 4,000 years old.

Finally, half-way through the article, some meat. Thought he'd never get around to telling us.

What killed them, anyhoo? The author never did get around to that.

37 posted on 05/30/2007 9:12:06 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: uglybiker

Neat.... Thanks


38 posted on 05/30/2007 9:34:58 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: SunkenCiv

believe it or not...

39 posted on 05/30/2007 6:58:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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Earth In Upheaval, page 189. ...it is estimated that it would take a twelve-foot layer of peat deposit to make a layer of coal one foot thick; and twelve feet of peat deposit would require plant remains a hundred and twenty feet high. How tall and thick must a forest be, then, in order to create a seam of coal not one foot thick but fifty? The plant remains must be six thousand feet thick...
40 posted on 05/30/2007 8:31:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: uglybiker

Finally a picture! Thanks.


41 posted on 05/30/2007 8:36:41 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Renfield
They are unintentional memorials to the grandiose forest that once stood here, now reduced to twisted, tortured shapes that scream silently from another epoch.

I don't think that anything but people or things made by them can be described as "grandiose."
42 posted on 05/30/2007 8:39:49 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: SunkenCiv
http://www.iinet.com/~englishriver/LewisClarkColumbiaRiver/Regions/Places/wind_mountain.html

Wind Mountain and Submerged Forest, Columbia River.

43 posted on 05/30/2007 9:35:28 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Red Badger; Fred Nerks

thanks!


44 posted on 05/30/2007 9:43:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 26, 2007.)
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To: 4buttons
doomed creatures; last, desperate escape; a dreadful fate beneath the rest of the world; reduced to twisted, tortured shapes that scream silently

...my goodness.

I’ll say, he must have had the Guinea pig for dinner.

45 posted on 05/30/2007 9:51:50 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Fred Nerks

GLOBAL WORMING?


46 posted on 05/30/2007 10:07:15 PM PDT by ARA
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To: hunter112

“Another great beer! I’ve been getting into the IPA’s that are available on this coast, and I had my first four-pack of Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA, wow! 9% alcohol, and more hops per bottle than a truckload of Coors!”

i think dogfish head is one of the best overall breweries in the US (or at least with any sort of distribution reach). i also really like their burton baton wood-aged ipa that recently came out, among other things.

have you tried anything from three floyds?


47 posted on 05/31/2007 8:53:15 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

Not yet! Where is it made?


48 posted on 06/01/2007 6:11:47 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: hunter112

indiana, major distribution in chicago area, you can get some of their products online at some chicago stores (binny’s, for example).


49 posted on 06/02/2007 6:14:48 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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