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We Are All in It Together, Clinton Says [Shared Prosperity Should Replace "On Your Own' Society"]
AP ^ | May 29, 2007 | Holly Ramer

Posted on 05/29/2007 9:13:29 AM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball

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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
This statement by Hillary ...WOW!

Couple that with this from Pelosi's office regarding re-instating the Fairness Doctrine on 5/14:

The decision to press for re-establishment of the Fairness Doctrine now seems to have developed for two reasons. "First, [Democrats] failed on the radio airwaves with Air America, no one wanted to listen," says a senior adviser to Pelosi. "Conservative radio is a huge threat and political advantage for Republicans and we have had to find a way to limit it. Second, it looks like the Republicans are going to have someone in the presidential race who has access to media in ways our folks don't want, so we want to make sure the GOP has no advantages going into 2008."

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=11427

Folks we're in real trouble here and it is time to stop all the talk and put actions in motion. The students in Venezuela have the courage...it is time we find ours.

151 posted on 05/29/2007 10:51:03 AM PDT by EBH (May God Save Our Country)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/fw.htm

Issue Date: 1st April issue 1940

Contents: The cover shows a woman plowing, a factory producing, and a German soldier's head. The point is "We're all in this together." The first article deals with farming women during war. There is an article criticizing life in England, and various material on fashion and homemaking, along with the best use of the clothing ration.

152 posted on 05/29/2007 10:52:39 AM PDT by gura
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To: gura

It’s either that or she saw High School Musical last weekend.


153 posted on 05/29/2007 10:57:19 AM PDT by gura
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To: Dick Vomer
The vice of capitalism is that it stands for the unequal sharing of blessings; whereas the virtue of socialism is that it stands for the equal sharing of misery.

- Winston Churchill

154 posted on 05/29/2007 10:57:31 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

She isn’t even trying to hide her Marxism is she?


155 posted on 05/29/2007 11:02:17 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims.Kill all child molesters RFN!)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

“Four legs good. Two legs bad.”

- Napoleon the Pig
“Animal Farm”


156 posted on 05/29/2007 11:13:26 AM PDT by Bender23
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Yeah?!
How about a “We’re all in this together” War on Terror policy.


157 posted on 05/29/2007 11:14:41 AM PDT by crashthe24
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Shrillery, you fraud! So since we’re “all in this together” I will expect immediate access to all of the bank accounts and investments funds maintained by you and your (pseudo) husband...... I would like access to the tens of millions of dollars you and Bill have been socking away, I really need it don’t ya know, and we’re “all in this together” so I’m sure you won’t mind.....


158 posted on 05/29/2007 11:16:37 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

>This should make the hair stand up on the back of the neck.<

It should, but remember two generations have been severely brainwashed, so HRC’s rhetoric might fall sweetly on too many ears. We really have our job cut out for ourselves!


159 posted on 05/29/2007 11:18:23 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: EBH

The Communist owned MSM hates Conservative Radio as much as Conservative Radio hates the Communist owned MSM.

Pelosi and Clinton flexing muscle! Where are our fearless warriors? We must clean House! We must rally behind the one man equipped to turn the country from certain fatality, and we must do it now!


160 posted on 05/29/2007 11:33:33 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: OpusatFR
Ignore what’s out there.

Yep, the best economy EVER!! Who in the world could ignore that?....lol Only the whiners.

And yet some are still whining? You BET I WOULD IGNORE those that whine about the best economy in the world--with the highest living standards in the world! As Larry Kudlow calls it, "Our economy is the GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD"!

Only a liberal would try to fix something that is NOT broken....lol

161 posted on 05/29/2007 11:37:01 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one to DIVIDE it!)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Shared prosperity = shrillonomics

What's mine is mine, and what's yours is mine.

"Fairness doesn't just happen. It requires the right government policies."

Hysterically LMAO!!!

162 posted on 05/29/2007 11:48:05 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Evil never sleeps.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Shared prosperity = shrillonomics

What's mine is mine, and what's yours is mine.

"Fairness doesn't just happen. It requires the right government policies."

Hysterically LMAO!!!

163 posted on 05/29/2007 11:48:17 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Evil never sleeps.)
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To: MiltonFriedmanFan

The MSM have put such a focus on money in entertainment that the American people have lost all perspective on wealth.

The poor in America have a standard of living that is better than 90% of the world, but the entertainment media focuses attention on the Paris Hiltons and Donald Trumps and TV shows like Extreme Makeover Home Edition. The former leads people to believe the wealthy didn’t *earn* their wealth and the latter to believe even average people can simply be *given* the good life, with work involved.

Fifty years ago, people didn’t see the ultra-rich often enough to think of them as ordinary people. The assumption was that those people must be very special to have gained such wealth. The media today shows only the foibles of those people but not the virtues that created their wealth.

There was an interesting point made on a Fox Business program last week. They pointed out that Paris Hilton, as ridiculous as it may seem, made $7M in 2006 from modeling, commercials, and endorsements. So she isn’t necessarily “spending her inheritance”. Standing around posing for 12 hour photo shoots doesn’t sound like work to most people, but she didn’t NEED to do anything at all. I’ve never seen the MSM report something like that — only her pecadillos and an implied statement that she simply spends money she never earned, never that she has earnings of her own.

The envy this fosters is very unhealthy. People cannot be happy with their modest lives if they are bombarded with images of the ultra-rich.


164 posted on 05/29/2007 11:49:49 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (Liberals aren't atheists. They worship government -- including human sacrifices.)
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To: Paperdoll

What is really funny is the First Reason given was because ‘nobody listened!’

Gee, do you think it could be that the vast majority of REAL Americans don’t want to listen to their socialist garbage! The capitalist system demonstrated that their message is not what we want.

So, because we won’t listen to them, they are going to try and force the air waves to push their views!

What is happening in Venezuela, is happening right here in a much more subtle form. We will arrive at a socialist state and wonder how we got there? It is called liberalism.


165 posted on 05/29/2007 11:53:06 AM PDT by EBH (May God Save Our Country)
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To: Paperdoll

What is really funny is the First Reason given was because ‘nobody listened!’

Gee, do you think it could be that the vast majority of REAL Americans don’t want to listen to their socialist garbage! The capitalist system demonstrated that their message is not what we want.

So, because we won’t listen to them, they are going to try and force the air waves to push their views!

What is happening in Venezuela, is happening right here in a much more subtle form. We will arrive at a socialist state and wonder how we got there? It is called liberalism.


166 posted on 05/29/2007 11:53:14 AM PDT by EBH (May God Save Our Country)
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To: stockstrader

“Ignore what’s out there.”

Well, obviously you all are going to and that will cost us.

Good luck. My advice is to bulletproof your portfolios now because when they win, I will be back (wealth safely tucked elsewhere) to say: “I told you so.”

Facts do not matter. PERCEPTION wins every time.


167 posted on 05/29/2007 12:02:46 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

uh, ‘We’re going to take things away from you for the common good’. Vintage Hill. Hasn’t changed at all. Should scare you silly, and if not....you’re out of your mind.


169 posted on 05/29/2007 12:13:11 PM PDT by hershey
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To: OpusatFR
You have very little faith in the intelligence of the average American. The average American blasted her socialist health plan and this is just more of the same. Americans are surely not dumb enough to think we'll ever have legislation demanding people "share."

Even my college daughter joked that maybe she could drop out of school since all the wealthy people are going to share with her. This philosophy contradicts every basic American value of self reliance...Hillary's blown it big time with this remark. No American is going to embrace a candidate who encourages handouts.

170 posted on 05/29/2007 12:13:35 PM PDT by Neverforget01
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To: aflaak

ping


171 posted on 05/29/2007 12:15:30 PM PDT by r-q-tek86 (Jack Bauer would just whack him!)
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To: EBH
Folks we're in real trouble here and it is time to stop all the talk and put actions in motion. The students in Venezuela have the courage...it is time we find ours.

Our situation is very different. Hugo is going directly to the Cuba model in his remaining term. He needs to get this done before his term ends, so he can push through his "president for life" rule. In so far as they have an obvious focal point in Hugo they have an advantage.

The people intent on the transformation of America are much smarter and patient. The "boiling frog" scenario is working well. There is not a single, visible, charasmatic person moving us to Socialism and One Worldism, there are many true candidates vying to be the 'standard carrier' for this program. They differ in the speed and spin (lies to disguise) they use to talk about it.

Clinton, Obama, Gore, Edwards, Kerry, and many more. And behind them a compliant or complicit media. And behind them accidental billionaires like Soros and the Progressive guy.

So will marching prove or change anything, in either case? We shall see but I'm willing to bet that the TV station in Venezeula never goes back to its original format and owners. Chavez will win this round, and the next one, and perhaps even achieve his ultimate goal of being the next Castro - Presidente for Life.

The elites here don't want Hillary-for-Life, that's not even in the cards.

As for us, how to resist. Right now jam the lines. Next? I have a hard time with street protests. It seems like such a 'leftist' tactic, though it does build coalitions and gets people fired up. Occassionaly Conservatives hit on a brilliant play that illuminates things.

The Minutemen are one - despite the media attempts to vilify them and the inter-organizational squabbles that have haunted the org. The Gathering of Eagles was good too, but again you saw part of the problems for us is that the media simply boycott our rallies, downplay the numbers, lie about the meaning and messages.

Therefore street protests might not be the way to oppose what is going down here in the USA.

172 posted on 05/29/2007 12:18:35 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) -- Presidential hopeful Hillary Rodham Clinton outlined a broad economic vision Tuesday, saying it's time to replace an "on your own" society with one based on shared responsibility and prosperity.

It's already been tried here before. The Pilgrims tried communism when they first landed. They almost starved to death before getting rid of it.

173 posted on 05/29/2007 12:21:48 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
replace an "on your own" society with one based on shared responsibility and prosperity.

Observations from two people far wiser than Hillary Clinton.

"How do you tell a Communist?
Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin.
How do you tell an anti-Communist?
It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin."
-- Ronald Reagan

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." -- Winston Churchill (Sir Winston Leonard Spenser Churchill)

174 posted on 05/29/2007 12:27:38 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: OpusatFR; stockstrader

So up is down, bad is good, and Left is Right, eh? Did you even read what stockstrader wrote?

You appear to have an apt screen-name....when can we expect an opus from YOU?!


175 posted on 05/29/2007 12:28:16 PM PDT by rockrr (09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

She’s a dyed in the red, commie.


176 posted on 05/29/2007 12:30:14 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs, but most of it to the government!

Mark

177 posted on 05/29/2007 12:30:24 PM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: rocksblues

bump for later


178 posted on 05/29/2007 12:33:37 PM PDT by rocksblues (Warning, anti-illegal immigration posters are being watched by Big Brother)
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To: OpusatFR
"Facts do not matter. PERCEPTION wins every time."

LOL! IBFZ....
179 posted on 05/29/2007 12:36:07 PM PDT by rockrr (09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
Fine, Hildebeast - you want things to be shared?

I WANT YOUR MONEY.

I WANT YOUR PLANE.

I WANT YOU TO SHARE WHAT YOU HAVE - YOU DIVIDE OUT YOUR POSSESSIONS FIRST - then we'll see what I'm willing to share.

First thing I'd like to offer is a great big fart in your general direction - PIG!

180 posted on 05/29/2007 12:38:49 PM PDT by Alkhin (star dust contemplating star dust)
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To: JohnLongIsland

Ms. Clinton, in plain english, is merely repeating her determination to raise taxes, buy votes, and model the USA after the old USSR dream (but Cuba will also do).


181 posted on 05/29/2007 12:39:07 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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To: All

I LOVE IT !!!! Can I request who I want to share with me ?
If so I want one of Jay Leno’s cars ..lets see , lets see
ok , one of Bill Klinon’s book deals, some of the Rolling Stones tour equipment, one of Trumps buildings , one of Ted Kennedy’s boats (complete with over stocked bar) wowow this is SOOOOOOOOOOO cool .I
ll think of more soon .Hilderbeast can share my phone bill, medical bills, car insurance & rent .I’ll vote for her for sure !!!!
(SARCASM OFF)


182 posted on 05/29/2007 12:39:07 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Kellis91789

I wouldn’t use Paris Hilton to prove any kind of point . Poor choice there


183 posted on 05/29/2007 12:47:45 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: OldArmy52

actually the little red chairman mao book is her bible.


184 posted on 05/29/2007 12:47:48 PM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: JohnLongIsland

once a commie, always a commie...”

EXACTLY!!!

OTOH— Hitlery certainly has shared Bill with an abundance of women, hasn’t she?

If my name comes up on that list, please announce that I am not interested..


185 posted on 05/29/2007 1:39:47 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: oh8eleven

hillary stache ping


186 posted on 05/29/2007 1:44:39 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
I guess her move to the center is over till she gets the nomination, then it will resume.
187 posted on 05/29/2007 1:51:14 PM PDT by rocksblues (Warning, anti-illegal immigration posters are being watched by Big Brother)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Hillary the Commie.


188 posted on 05/29/2007 1:51:55 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Fence first! We can discuss the rest later.)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

I guess we are all invited to her new island property?

Cool!


189 posted on 05/29/2007 1:52:38 PM PDT by listenhillary (Democrats are sacrificing civilization for political power)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

I’ll bet even Bill cringes on this one!


190 posted on 05/29/2007 1:53:50 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: gura

Ironically dated “April Fool” day.


191 posted on 05/29/2007 1:53:59 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: oh8eleven

is there a video of this somewhere?
thanks


192 posted on 05/29/2007 2:47:27 PM PDT by Danette ("If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
That means pairing growth with fairness,

Anywhere I see the word "Fairness" put forth in a public context, I always think of P.J. O'Rourke's Famous Quote: ".......Fairness is probably a good thing in marriage---And at the day-care center. It’s a nice little domestic virtue. But a liking for fairness is not that noble a sentiment. Fairness doesn’t rank with charity, love, duty Or self sacrifice. And there is always a tinge of self-seeking In making sure that things are fair. 'Don’t you go trying to get one up on me' "

193 posted on 05/29/2007 3:08:56 PM PDT by Pagey (Horrible Hillary Clinton is Bad For America, Bad For Business and Bad For MY Stomach!)
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To: Danette

Sorry, not that I’m aware of - the MSM deleted them all.


194 posted on 05/29/2007 3:12:12 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

bookmark


195 posted on 05/29/2007 3:14:04 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Jack Black
As for us, how to resist. Right now jam the lines. Next? I have a hard time with street protests. It seems like such a 'leftist' tactic, though it does build coalitions and gets people fired up. Occassionaly Conservatives hit on a brilliant play that illuminates things.

Fine you have a hard time with street protests, most of us do. But, if that is what is called upon me to do...I will proudly do it to save my Country! The other thing is we have to get people to think or de-program. I agree there are similarities and differences between Venezuela and the US, but the deception is similiar, the efforts the same. We, the people, have permitted a whole generation to be indoctrinated into this type of thinking. WE have essentially for 40 years+ felt that the American ideals would trump the most insidious socialists. Well, guess what, they are running for president...and have a legitimate chance of being elected.

We're in deep trouble when people like this can say the things that Hillary has said and they go unchallenged. Worse, they get supported!

"Many of you are well enough off that tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to have to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

"I mean, you've got a conservative and right-wing press presence with really nothing on the other end of the political spectrum."

"We are at a stage in history in which remolding society is one of the great challenges facing all of us in the West."

"We just can't trust the American people to make those types of choices.... Government has to make those choices for people"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1PfE9K8j0g And they are actively looking to silence the conservative voice! Our situation is much more deadly to freedom, because it is so insidious.

196 posted on 05/29/2007 3:28:58 PM PDT by EBH (May God Save Our Country)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

and this is why we call her Hitllery!


197 posted on 05/29/2007 3:33:17 PM PDT by Halls (check out my profile and it will explain everything!(Vote for someone who will seal our borders!))
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To: OpusatFR
So you want facts? Let's review on last time. How about these?

FACT: The stock market is at an all time high (including IRA's and 401k's)!

FACT: Unemployment is at incredibly LOW HISTORICAL LEVEL (lower than the Clinton years)!

FACT: Interest rates are at historical lows for the last 30 years.

FACT: Inflation is NOT a problem (most economists say 2% is the perfect level).

FACT: Home ownership is at an ALL TIME HIGH!!

I'll stick with the FACTS--YOU stick with your skewed perceptions.

198 posted on 05/29/2007 3:33:45 PM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one to DIVIDE it!)
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To: sonic109

She is exactly the right choice.

She is the epitome of why the average person thinks the lavish lifestyles of the wealthy are unearned. You can say anything you like about what a poor role model she is, or what an airhead she appears, and it just proves that point.

The average person is quick to think she must be spending somebody else’s money, and the MSM panders to that image, but it just isn’t true. She is spending her own money. Earned from foolish people just like some star athlete, actor, fashion designer, artist, or anybody else that is paid large sums of money by foolish people.

If you were a Communist charged with creating discontent and class envy in America’s poor and middle classes, Paris Hilton would be your favorite poster child.


199 posted on 05/29/2007 4:01:17 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Liberals aren't atheists. They worship government -- including human sacrifices.)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

> Presidential hopeful Hillary Rodham Clinton outlined a
> broad economic vision Tuesday,

Her collectivist vision is my worst nightmare. I would be better off in Brazil, where we can still worship Christ freely.

> saying it’s time to replace an “on your own” society with
> one based on shared responsibility and prosperity.

Spoken like a true Marxist, and without shame.

Basically it means, you get to live a lowest common denominator lifestyle while the party elite live large.

> The Democratic senator

She is NOT Democratic. She is Democrat. BIG difference.

> said what the Bush administration touts as an “ownership
> society” really is an “on your own” society

What am I missing here? “On your own” is what made this country GREAT! You don’t have to look far to see what happens to countries that implement a Marxist vision.

Like Cuba.

> that has widened the gap between rich and poor.

The class card.

I don’t see the Klintons giving any of their money away.

> “I prefer a ‘we’re all in it together’ society,”

This from a leader of what is probably the most divisive political party in American history.

“We’re all in it together” means that she will force you at gunpoint to share the fruits of your labor with the ne’er do well bum down the street while she and her family continue to live large.

> “I believe our government can once again work for all
> Americans.

Read your Constitution HAG. The federal government was never meant to be a Nanny.

> It can promote the great American tradition of
> opportunity for all and special privileges for none.”

Unabashed Marxist appeal to the thief in everyone.

Are there really any grownups left that still believe this stuff?

> That means pairing growth with fairness

Yes, all Marxists hide their totalitarian collectivist goals behind making things “fair”.

Maybe somebody should tell this economics maven that Growth IS fairness! That’s why my parents came to America! They knew all about a government-imposed “fairness”. They came here to GET AWAY from that!

> she said, to ensure that the middle-class succeeds in the
> global economy, not just corporate CEOs.

Just in case she hasn’t been paying attention, unless the corporations and their CEOs succeed, there’s NO CHANCE that the “middle class” can succeed, or even exist!

> “There is no greater force for economic growth than free
> markets.

Astonishing statement from a committed collectivist. There has to be a catch somewhere else ...

> But markets work best with rules that promote
> our values, protect our workers and give all people a
> chance to succeed,” she said.

I just KNEW there’d be a catch.

Look. My parents came from a hardscrabble catch-as-catch can survival-of-the-fittest struggle they call “life” in other parts of the world. They worked hard, lived the American dream, and in one generation were able to send their children to American colleges.

There is no better chance to succeed than the economy we have right now. Tampering with that to implement some Marxist dystopian ideal of “fairness” is an invitation to DISASTER.

But then again, disaster might be what she wants.

For you and me, anyway, certainly not for her.

> “Fairness doesn’t just happen. It requires the right
> government policies.”

Oh please.

Just have a look at what “diversity” and the “war on poverty” have done for “fairness”. We’ve spent TRILLIONS of dollars only to see things become orders of magnitude worse now than they were before these “government policies” were implemented.

> Clinton spoke at the Manchester School of Technology,
> which trains high school students for careers in the
> construction, automotive, graphic arts and other
> industries.

I live in New Hampshire. These students were probably ramped off that they had to sit and listen to this socialist cow tell them how she was going to take their hard-earned money and give it to the drunken bum next door, while they could have been out apprenticing for real money.

> “We have sent a message to our young people that if you
> don’t go to college ... that you’re thought less of in
> America. We have to stop this,” she said. “Our country
> cannot run without the people who have the skills that
> are taught in this school.”

Ted Knight said pretty much the same thing in “Caddy Shack” when he said, “The world needs ditch diggers, too.”


200 posted on 05/29/2007 4:49:27 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it!)
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