Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obama lays out detailed healthcare plan
The Hill ^ | 5/29/07 | Jeffrey Young

Posted on 05/29/2007 1:48:51 PM PDT by Jean S

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-33 last
To: capydick

I’ll back it when Barack Hussein Obama pays for it.


21 posted on 05/29/2007 2:16:27 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: JeanS

The “new” health plan (retreaded hillarycare) has only one additional provision, and that has to do with financing - restoration of the former tax rates when the current authorization for the current reduced rates expires over the coming years, by not renewing the enabling legislation.

Novel suggestion - why not allow the INDIVIDUAL the opportunity to purchase a health care plan, and make an incentive that is built into the tax code, for EVERYBODY, that would take up the cost of purchasing the plan, provider to be chosen by the individual? I can think of a dozen ways this would be ultimately workable.

Apparently Democraticans have hever heard of this potential alternative.

Wasn’t Al Gore the guy who used to talk about “risky schemes”? This one certainly qualifies, in that as schemes go, there is DEFINITELY risk.


22 posted on 05/29/2007 2:17:06 PM PDT by alloysteel (Choose carefully the hill you would die upon. For if you win, the view is magnificent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 11th Commandment

Describing healthcare as a right, Obama said, “I believe that no amount of industry profiteering and lobbying should stand in the way of that right any longer. …

WTF? The government now takes 34% of GDP. Where’s the tipping point?

READ-
The federal government recorded a $1.3 trillion loss last year — far more than the official $248 billion deficit — when corporate-style accounting standards are used, a USA TODAY analysis shows.

The loss reflects a continued deterioration in the finances of Social Security and government retirement programs for civil servants and military personnel. The loss — equal to $11,434 per household — is more than Americans paid in income taxes in 2006.

Modern accounting requires that corporations, state governments and local governments count expenses immediately when a transaction occurs, even if the payment will be made later.

The federal government does not follow the rule, so promises for Social Security and Medicare don’t show up when the government reports its financial condition.

Bottom line: Taxpayers are now on the hook for a record $59.1 trillion in liabilities, a 2.3% increase from 2006. That amount is equal to $516,348 for every U.S. household. By comparison, U.S. households owe an average of $112,043 for mortgages, car loans, credit cards and all other debt combined.

Unfunded promises made for Medicare, Social Security and federal retirement programs account for 85% of taxpayer liabilities. State and local government retirement plans account for much of the rest.

This hidden debt is the amount taxpayers would have to pay immediately to cover government’s financial obligations. Like a mortgage, it will cost more to repay the debt over time. Every U.S. household would have to pay about $31,000 a year to do so in 75 years.


23 posted on 05/29/2007 2:35:04 PM PDT by griswold3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Vinnie
"Does that include South and Central Americans?"

Count on it. We'll have to up the amnesty program from 20 million to 100+ million once the thirld world learns it's free, only the gringos have to pay.

24 posted on 05/29/2007 2:36:17 PM PDT by marlon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: JeanS

OK Children. Can you say... socialism?


25 posted on 05/29/2007 2:39:34 PM PDT by Nachum
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JeanS

And not one reporter asked “If you pay for it with a tax increase, how, exactly, does that result in saving money for the taxpayers?”

If you reduce my premiums $2000 and raise my taxes $3000 I’m not saving money.


26 posted on 05/29/2007 3:03:17 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JeanS

Obama is a hard core socialist wrapped in Opra nicey-nice talk.


27 posted on 05/29/2007 3:21:13 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JeanS

Not one of these Bozos understand how large the impact of US Heatlhcare is on the economy of the US. If one is not very careful you could literally sink this economy almost over night.

I have friends in the UK, Canada and Asia - not one would take their country’s healthcare over what they get in the US. 2 of them actually preferred to pay cash for minor operations here vs. wait for the substandard care at home.


28 posted on 05/29/2007 3:34:32 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JeanS

"What's yours is mine, comrade...Oh who am I kidding? I can't out-Stalin Hillary..."

29 posted on 05/29/2007 4:00:35 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JeanS

“Bubba” gave that job to hillary and hillary will give that job to her VP (Oh’Mama). They are obsessed with ‘universal health care’ and complete socialization of this country.


30 posted on 05/29/2007 4:23:39 PM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JeanS

“The proposal would partially be financed by not extending tax cuts scheduled to expire in several years.”

Why isnt the headline?

OBAMA PROPOSES MASSIVE TAX INCREASE.

oh, the Liberal media. silly me.


31 posted on 05/29/2007 10:49:50 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Illegal Immigration. Call your Senator today. Senate Switchboard at 202-224-3121.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: newgeezer
We will eventually have nationalized health care.

Let's hope not.

32 posted on 05/29/2007 10:55:11 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: JeanS

every American would have access to private or government-sponsored health benefits

Exactly who does not ‘hae access to’ now?


33 posted on 05/30/2007 6:46:05 AM PDT by Ender Wiggin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-33 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson