Skip to comments.Soldiers Want a Bigger Bang
Posted on 05/30/2007 7:12:47 AM PDT by Sergio
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'Cuz even women can fire it accurately.
Seems like something in the 30.30 class would be more appropriate.
You wanna lug around 210 rounds (infantryman's basic load) of 30-30?! It would leave little margin for grenades, mortar rounds and water....
I'm sorry I can't hear your post.>>>hahahahaha. my head is still shaking...and rattling
I wanna hear it!
It's meant to be uncomfortable when it enters the body. ;-)
“Because the object of shooting an enemy (in warfare) isnt to kill target, but to wound it. “
But, dead enemy combatants don’t shoot back.
The cartridge has reached it's limit (especially in shorter barrels) with the 77 grain ammunition issued to the SDM's. Anything heavier can't be accelerated quickly enough through a short tube.
The projectiles will also be at the limits of spin-stabilization out of a 1:7 barrel. As a heavier bullet gets longer, more spin is required to keep it stable. It's been a while since I did the math but I believe the heavy bullets are turning something a bit over 300,000 rpm.
There are quite a few good bullet / cartridge combinations in the 6.5 - 6.8 mm range that could be made to work on the same platform. However, I doubt that the average soldier could make use of the extra horsepower.
I decided to see what an 8mm Mauser from WWII would do shooting some Yugoslav ammo. I set up 6 2X4s in a row in front of a walnut tree and fired. The 8mm Mauser penetrated all 6 2X4s and went into the tree. Draw your own conclusions.
An old saying. We know that one round will kill a man. We don’t know how many it will take to scare him to death.
Recall the definition of gun control.
Thanks for the informative response! It’s one of the great things about FR.
How so? BTW, I take it you didn't get my sarcasm, but I'm still curious as to your take on this.
Snipers who use an M16/AR15 platform use 77gr Sierra HPBT's (this is 15gr heavier than M855 (62gr), a 24% increase in weight and a thinner jacketted "match" bullet).
Yes it is. You can build a sub-gun like I have described in .40 or .45
The .45 version would be a real handfull, the design of a `76 runs much faster than a M-3
You thought correctly.
Personally, I never cared much for it, what with that gawdawful big bolt slamming around, you could not aim for crap. The Thompson was heavier, but oh so easy to shoot accurately.
HKs are a little pricey, but money well spent. imho
What I meant to say in referring to the 30.30 was it’s terminal ballistics, not the cartridge itself. If I were in the sandbox, I would want a cartridge that will put at least 1000 ft/lbs on target at 300 to 400 yards.
The 6.8x43 SPC and the 6.5 Grendel seem to be heading in the right direction.
I agree with you there.
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