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To: Sergio
They need the .308 for rifle and a .45 with a 185grn-200grn bullet. The .308 is just the best I don't care how heavy the ammo is. The .45 is the best, but the 230FMJ is too heavy. You can actually watch it fall as you shoot it. Course, if you are shooting farther than 50 feet or so, why are you using a pistola anyway? The 200grn bullet is better than a .40 cal, IMHO, and goes farther and flatter. My fav handload is a 185HP, but the Geneva convention says NO to HP's. If it wasn't a HP, I don't know if it could remain 185grn.

I've also wondered if the .44 Desert Eagle could be considered for widespread use. Prolly too expensive, but it would be an attention getter. Even the .357 is mo better than a 9mm. Frankly I'd rather have a .38 than 9mm. You can tell I don't have much respect for pop guns in war.

19 posted on 05/30/2007 7:50:07 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles
The .45 is the best, but the 230FMJ is too heavy. You can actually watch it fall as you shoot it. Course, if you are shooting farther than 50 feet or so, why are you using a pistola anyway?

Exactly. But that's just one more reason why someone shooting a .45 ACP should stick to a proven manstopper - the heavy and slow 230 grainer. (IMO)

It's pretty well established that felt recoil out of a modern, non-1911, service pistol will be manageable for most anyone in uniform.

As far as rifles go, a gas-piston AR chambered in 6.8 SPC is just what the doctor ordered. However, politics and the inertia of military logistics will probably render this entire conversation pointless.

29 posted on 05/30/2007 8:17:51 AM PDT by AngryJawa ({IDPA, NRA} GO HUNTER '08)
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To: chuckles
let me see...

.308 check

.45 with 185 gr bullet, check

hates pop guns, check

would think it would be neat to have a .44 Desert Eagle for the attention and the off chance it would hit it's target, check

wouldn't use a pistol if over 50 feet away in combat.... unless really freaking out, check...

hey you could be my friend and I agree with everything you wrote

It's on me, brother

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47 posted on 05/30/2007 9:03:22 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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