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The Difference Between Free Speech and Hate Speech
Global Politician ^ | 05-15-07 | David Storobin

Posted on 05/30/2007 11:14:52 AM PDT by SeafoodGumbo

And yet, when African-American Professors incite their Black students against Whites, they are praised. The Professor, Nikki Giovanni, chosen to eulogize the victims of Virginia Tech Massacre wrote the following poem:

Can a nigger kill a honkie

Can a nigger kill the Man

Can you kill nigger

Huh? nigger can you kill

Do you know how to draw blood

Can you poison

Can you stab-a-Jew

Can you kill huh? nigger

Can you kill

Can you run a protestant down with your ‘68 El Dorado

(that’s all they’re good for anyway)

Can you kill

Can you piss on a blond head

Can you cut it off

Can you kill

A nigger can die

We ain’t got to prove we can die

We got to prove we can kill

They sent us to kill Japan and Africa

We policed europe

Can you kill

Can you kill a white man

Can you kill the nigger

in you

Can you make your nigger mind die

Can you kill your nigger mind

And free your black hands to strangle

Can you kill

Can a nigger kill

Can you shoot straight and

Fire for good measure

Can you splatter their brains in the street

Can you kill them

Can you lure them to bed to kill them

We kill in Viet Nam for them

We kill for UN & NATO & SEATO & US

And everywhere for all alphabet but BLACK

Can we learn to kill WHITE for BLACK

Learn to kill niggers

Learn to be Black men

Prof. Giovanni has been celebrated as Ebony Magazine’s Woman of the Year; received keys from New York, Dallas, Baltimore, New Orleans, Miami and Los Angeles; and dozens of other awards and honors.

Telling young Black students that they are “niggers” unless they kill “honkies” is, thus, free speech. Admitting that some diseases may effect some racial and ethnic groups more than others (making it easier to cure ill people) is hate speech.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: blackracism; blackracist; doublestandard; hatefilledrant; hater; moralabsolutes; nikkigiovanni; racist; university

1 posted on 05/30/2007 11:14:55 AM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

I’m ‘speechless’


2 posted on 05/30/2007 11:19:20 AM PDT by Jeffrey_D. (The only thing I love more than my FreeperFriends is my God, Family and Country !!!!)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Nikki Giovanni

She doesn't look Italian.


Not much of a master of the language, either.

3 posted on 05/30/2007 11:21:49 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: Jeffrey_D.

A visiting professor at North Carolina State University says the solution to the problems faced by many blacks is the extermination of “white people off the face of the planet.” - Kamau Kambon
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46973
This Katrina speech is on youtube some where too. People applauded when he called for the exterminate of an entire race of people.


4 posted on 05/30/2007 11:22:12 AM PDT by bird4four4 (Behead those who suggest Islam is violent!)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
"Professor Giovanni." What a pathetic joke.

If that constitutes poetry, then I'm William F******* Shakespeare.

5 posted on 05/30/2007 11:25:27 AM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("left unchecked, Saddam Hussein...will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton)
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To: bird4four4

Ah yes here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaByUomb7D8


6 posted on 05/30/2007 11:26:05 AM PDT by bird4four4 (Behead those who suggest Islam is violent!)
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To: atomicpossum
Nikki Giovanni

She doesn't look Italian.

Probably 3rd generation Mafia, like Danny Glover in "Flight of the Intruder."

Mark

7 posted on 05/30/2007 11:26:24 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

The only place this kind of garbage gets supported is in our universities. Hard earned money pays for this “punk” to draw a paycheck every two weeks and thumb her nose at the world.


8 posted on 05/30/2007 11:26:51 AM PDT by caisson71
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To: bird4four4

I wonder if he is related to Boston’s own Racial Arsonist Sediki Kambon who published the fake rape photos in the Boston Globe.


9 posted on 05/30/2007 11:27:20 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

‘We are...Virginia Tech!’

Professor Giovanti at the ceremony after the VT shootings.

Yes, Professor, we know, we know.


10 posted on 05/30/2007 11:27:48 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: bird4four4
I recall that one!! Not a word said to refute this a$$!!!

It is ironic to me that all these blabbermouths are in academia. All these bigots speak from a secure position - they have tenure. Let’s see what would happen if a white prof spewed this crap about minorities.

It is harder to get rid of a tenured professor then it is to get rid of an expensive, yet worthless government program. I think we should get rid of tenure. I always keep hearing from these jerks that "change is good". Well, let's have some change in tenure.

11 posted on 05/30/2007 11:28:49 AM PDT by 66-442hot (It isn't smart to kill the golden goose........)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Just to clarify: this poem isn't the one written for the euolgy. I'm sure FReepers figured that out, but the wording in the article wasn't as clear as it should have been.

Giovanni's eulogy can be read here. Of course, it doesn't only focus on the tragedy at hand, but laments babies with AIDS, elephants killed for their ivory, and others.

12 posted on 05/30/2007 11:30:48 AM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo
I thought this was disgusting and then I read the whole article. It is a good read and is now bookmarked.

Hate Speech vs Free Speech

Why is it only the left is allowed to decide which is which? Why is it that it is ok to slanderously slam Christians and Jews, but ‘sin’ to point out that violent world conquest is written into the hadiths and koran?

Why is it ok for the BATF to “profile” “terrorists” in the 90s as anyone who is a Christian and believes in the Constitution but profiling Islamic terrorists and tracking them in the USA is the ultimate in ‘wrongs’?

So many ‘whys’ and only one answer: Because the left says so.

13 posted on 05/30/2007 11:31:18 AM PDT by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just National Socialism without the "twisted cross")
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Giovanni comments on Cho, the killer:

“I know we’re talking about a troubled youngster and crap like that, but troubled youngsters get drunk and jump off buildings; troubled youngsters drink and drive,” Giovanni said. “I’ve taught troubled youngsters. I’ve taught crazy people. It was the meanness that bothered me. It was a really mean streak.”


14 posted on 05/30/2007 11:32:05 AM PDT by donna (They hand off my culture & citizenship to criminals & then call me racist for objecting?)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

15 posted on 05/30/2007 11:32:56 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood
And these are the people who teach our children......

Hitler and Stalin and Muhammed are laughing at us from Hell. Their murderous desires are being played out Orwellian fashion in our schools.

Yet we as a society refuse to hold these monsters accountable.

16 posted on 05/30/2007 11:34:57 AM PDT by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just National Socialism without the "twisted cross")
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To: caisson71
Here's Nikki Giovanni's website!
17 posted on 05/30/2007 11:42:52 AM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: bird4four4

Always wonder about these idiots calling for race war.

Do they have a clue how badly they would lose if they got what they wanted?


18 posted on 05/30/2007 11:52:31 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Giovanni kicked Cho out of her class.

"I was willing to resign before I would continue with him," she told CNN. "It was the meanness." Professor Roy started teaching him in a one-on-one workshop, and it didn’t take long for her, too, to worry for her own safety, working out a secret alarm with her assistant. "If she mentioned the name of a dead professor, her assistant would know it was time to call security," The Times reported today. Later in the CNN interview, Professor Giovanni said that reports on Monday that that the gunman was Asian left "no doubt" in her mind who did it. Her interviewer's shock led her to make something very clear. "But I'm not prescient," she said.

19 posted on 05/30/2007 11:53:36 AM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

The sound system in the stadium was messed up so I left about the time the baby died from the boulder.


20 posted on 05/30/2007 11:56:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: atomicpossum


21 posted on 05/30/2007 12:02:49 PM PDT by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: AppyPappy

Is it common knowledge on the Virginia Tech campus that such a psycho racist as Giovanni is a professor there?


22 posted on 05/30/2007 12:03:23 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

I can feel the love.


23 posted on 05/30/2007 12:15:06 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

She’s not a racist per se. She’s more of a “slam poetry” type.


24 posted on 05/30/2007 12:18:26 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: bird4four4

“A visiting professor at North Carolina State University says the solution to the problems faced by many blacks is the extermination of “white people off the face of the planet.” - Kamau Kambon
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46973

Let them try please. They’ll very quickly find their percentage of the American population dropping from about 13% to close to zero. Us honkies are very tough to kill.


25 posted on 05/30/2007 12:29:26 PM PDT by utherdoul
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To: SeafoodGumbo

She did not deliver this as a eulogy, SeaFoodGumbo. How
could you have made such a mistake? Hate?

And if you actually read the poem, you might see that it
is not about killing people. Here’s the heart of the poem:

“Can you kill the nigger in you
Can you make your nigger mind die
Can you kill your nigger mind”

It has more to do with black people rejecting the
image that white people have of them as “the nigger”, and
rejecting the image they have of themselves as “the nigger”.
One part of being a nigger is that you never kill a white
man, even if he was killing your family.

It also has a little bit of the Sadean Woman in it (as in
the Marquis de Sade). The Marquis asserted that when men
and women are incarcerated in prison at the same rates, for
the severity of crimes, you will know that the female sex
has achieved equality with the male. I think black on black
crime is still much more common than black on white crime.

The author of the poem threw Cho out of her class. If
everyone had done the same thing, he might not have had the
opportunity to kill so many innocent people.


26 posted on 05/30/2007 1:01:41 PM PDT by prodigals son
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To: prodigals son

Oops. My bad. You didn’t say she delivered the poem as a eulogy.
I stand by the rest of my comment, though.


27 posted on 05/30/2007 1:03:43 PM PDT by prodigals son
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Need I guess—she’s a democrat (of course??). Yeah. Lot of love in there. Not a real poet—she seems to enjoy a position because of her race. Is it not true? Yeah, probably. Such dribble. Such adolescence in her “work.” Laughable. I didn’t have the heart to contact her via the website... a real poet may have written this:

He Did

The great Israeli, the great Professor Liviu Librescu did,

Working one minute, knowing the next, he waited not, he did.

When a matter of hell was on them with shot and fire,

When the shooting started, the loathing, evil desire,

When the children of Virginia, freedom land screamed,

And were cruelly taken, the teacher quickly deemed,

Not in my class! You cannot have a single one for,

You must go through me and I am strong, vile hate!

Do you hear me now! Leave my place, take no more!

I spit in your face! Not one shall you add to your slate.

The professor did what none but the bravest, I bid,

And only the strongest, God-filled can do. He did.

Of those very few among us like he, the truly tall.

He taught them well then kicked that fearsome wall,

Was a shield, helping them flee man’s darkest fall.

He went down plainly knowing his life was o’er.

He is a hero. He is that but far, faraway more.

God bless the great professor. God forever bless him.

God bless his children, his wife… his life. I’chaim!

He’s surely with God now. He’s done with me and you.

Kaddish... Pray to God for a best man, the man Librescu.


28 posted on 05/30/2007 1:14:52 PM PDT by BamaAndy (Professor Librescu is an American hero.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Or this:

America’s Peace

What have you, would you have,
Fatherless child,
Made from your own device, mind,
Out of the wild?
Is she not worth your time, your effort,
Your loving keep?
Is she worth your sweat, silver,
Your conscience torn deep,
To defend this land, the mass of a new,
Different face?
Say war is never ever an answer
… Nor is it our place;
Easily it’s fraught with wasted lives,
Futile bile.
To do nothing is one answer,
Give up the gentle smile,
Of freedom and peace by meeting,
Those who would take,
And keep longer than arms length,
A countenance make.
But what to do when violence comes,
Presses hard,
To kill your close ones and hasten to slave,
To quickly retard,
Your life, express his own hate,
For is it not you that marred,
The world he swallowed, his own life,
His earthly ward?

Peace a fleeting place,
Never a long-stay guest,
Rests uneasy, hate fills the swirl.
Comes war—a mad, sad, fearful,
Tearful joiner of motives,
The many thieves,
Buried in, infecting each heart,
Taking each mind away easy,
Mans worst unfurled.
It steals precious time, precious love,
Precious life in harmony,
—Hope surely leaves.

Cry, cry loud!
Forever shout it out and implore all,
That is above to render,
Help for all on this earthly tether of heartache and pain,
So no one must kill.
Cry loud! Cry out more for all men—
Come to love as written by the sender.
Stay away the Satan invented by,
Each man for his own sake! Must the shrill,
Must the shallow, every fool, every man,
Any man, have his own way?
Or can we live in peace longer,
Than a mere single blink in a single day?


29 posted on 05/30/2007 1:15:42 PM PDT by BamaAndy (Professor Librescu is an American hero.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

She sucks.


30 posted on 05/30/2007 1:16:10 PM PDT by BamaAndy (Professor Librescu is an American hero.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

It all depends on who you are. Certain protected groups can say and do anything and get away with it.
Others, I.E. true conservatives or Christians, don’t even have to do anything to be attacked and denounced for their “hate speech”.


31 posted on 05/30/2007 1:21:55 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: prodigals son
You are a retard of the highest order.

She did not deliver this as a eulogy, SeaFoodGumbo. How could you have made such a mistake? Hate? And if you actually read the poem...

Though you corrected yourself in the next post, it's awfully funny to see you accuse me of not having read the poem when you obviously hadn't read my posts.

And if you actually read the poem, you might see that it is not about killing people.

Maybe you're right -- I must have missed the metaphors hidden inside "Can you stab-a-Jew" and "Can you splatter their brains in the street" and "Can you lure them to bed to kill them".

It has more to do with black people rejecting the image that white people have of them as “the nigger”, and rejecting the image they have of themselves as “the nigger”. One part of being a nigger is that you never kill a white man, even if he was killing your family.

So, in your view it's about defeating that part of them that kept them from killing white people. Doesn't this contradict what you said in the beginning that the poem "is not about killing people"?

It also has a little bit of the Sadean Woman in it (as in the Marquis de Sade). The Marquis asserted that when men and women are incarcerated in prison at the same rates, for the severity of crimes, you will know that the female sex has achieved equality with the male.

I have no idea what kind of crap you're talking about here. Please don't bother explaining it either.

I think black on black crime is still much more common than black on white crime.

Wrong. Blacks commit more violent crimes against whites than against blacks. I have to run to the vet, but I'll be back to give you stats if you want to bet a $50 donation to FR on whether I'm right or not.

The author of the poem threw Cho out of her class. If everyone had done the same thing, he might not have had the opportunity to kill so many innocent people.

I'm the first one who on the thread who mentioned that fact -- and so what. Had he written anything worse than things she's written in the past? I doubt it.

It takes a special kind of person to read that poem and not see it as a call for killing white people, especially as it repeats the exhortation over and over. Have you hit your head recently?

32 posted on 05/30/2007 3:07:33 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Wow

Remember the phrase, "I may not agree with what you are saying, but I support your right to say it."
After reading some of the postings in this thread, I would imagine that the hatred is reciprocated.
What a vicious cycle.

33 posted on 05/30/2007 5:33:27 PM PDT by Gangchen_gonpo (an oft repeated phrase)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Seriously sick later pingout.


34 posted on 05/30/2007 6:30:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for the truth will know the truth.)
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To: Gangchen_gonpo
Remember the phrase, "I may not agree with what you are saying, but I support your right to say it."
After reading some of the postings in this thread, I would imagine that the hatred is reciprocated.
What a vicious cycle.

I think you're missing the point. This woman is calling for the murder of innocent people. I do hate people who call for murdering innocent people. In the same vein, I hate terrorists, pedophiles, and neo-Nazis.

It seems that you're using moral equivalence to equate this woman with those who categorically reject her and her disgusting views. Yes -- I do hate people who want to kill me.

35 posted on 05/30/2007 7:33:20 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Double standards....again. A racist is a racist. Hate is hate. No excuses can justify it. If an old sports commentator can get fired and have his reputation ruined for saying “nappy” then people like this should be convicted of a hate crime, jailed or heavily fined. How far are we (society) going to let this go?


36 posted on 05/31/2007 7:30:15 AM PDT by oldamerica rebel ( tttt It never hurts to have some faith ttttt)
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