Posted on 05/30/2007 3:34:26 PM PDT by rellimpank
Americans -- at least really stupid Americans like George Bush -- believe the natural state of the world is to have individual self-determination, human rights, the rule of law and a robust democratic economy. On this view, most of the existing world and almost all of world history is a freakish aberration.
In fact, the natural state of the world is Darfur. The freakish aberration is America and the rest of the Anglo-Saxon world.
The British Empire once spread the culture of prosperity around the globe -- Judeo-Christian values, tolerance, equality, private property and the rule of law. All recipients of the British Empire's largesse benefited, but the empire's most successful colony was the United States.
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Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
Mass immigration does expand the economy, at least many sectors of it. But at what price? When there’s 1 billion or 2 in the country would be that enough or do we keep importing more for the sake of profits? Does heritage, language, and culture count for anything in all of this or is the US just a shopping mall where consumers come and go to do business?
I think you are mostly right, but I also think there is a lot of underground economic activity. I wonder what percentage actually have jobs with companies that can be pressured.
There's a couple of things that need to be said about that. First... the mere fact that they are illegal aliens makes them vulnerable to being taken advantage of by unscrupulous employers. A broad system of legal guest worker visas would make them less likely to be hostages to their status by being threatened with deportation. Those wages would tend to rise. That's OK.
Also: If somebody can be replaced by an illiterate (in english) uneducated and unskilled immigrant worker, who then provides a better value to an employer than they do... uh... then it isn't the immigrant or the employer that has the problem.
If I can actually be replaced-- in terms of quality of work, productivity and skill-- by somebody that can do my job as well for a fraction of what I make, then I'm the one ripping off my employer am I not?
Congress doesn’t care. They were just re-elected so now they’ll do whatever they want. They’ve demonstrated this....
I hear you Ann and I agree.
It is distressing to see and hear so-called conservatives rallying around Ted Kennedy. Here's someone whose only goal has been to destroy the GOP and these clowns call him "awesome" and "wonderful" while they wholeheartedly support his legislation. They're only doing that to anger the base because one of their own in that country club of theirs is being called for what he is.
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That makes a lot of sense.
George Bush is not stupid at all. He is intelligently moving toward his clear goal: The transformation of America into a third world slum.
There is no longer any question that this is his goal. The only question is why? Why import millions upon millions of mexicans to rape, rob and kill his own people?
Why blatantly steal the wealth and property of Americans who earned it - and hand it straight over to mexican peasants who didn’t earn, but instead broke the law to get it?
Why?
That leaves evil as an option.
To put $30B in perspective:
It’s the 2006 state budget of Washington. The state budget of Oregon in 2006 was $19B.
I just shake my head. It is EXACTLY urinating an ENORMOUS amount of money down the drain.
Agree with you on all counts except for “assimilation.” I believe “acculturation” is more realistic.
But if Bush is impeached, who will fight to make far-off countries safe for a democratically elected government to impose sharia law? Who will spend our country's treasure to build schools for Muslims to teach hatred of all non-Muslims.
I don't know about you, but I'm just really happy we helped make Iraq a safe place for the great god Democracy and for the increased persecution of Christians in that country.
Seriously, I'm sorry I voted for him in 2000. I'm glad I did not vote for him in 2004.
I wouldn’t say that it is immigration that expands the economy. It is that our growing economy has created a surplus of jobs.
A billion? Uh... not likely anytime soon. What we really need more than anything else is to make some more babies. We’re barely keeping up as it is, hence the need for all these immigrants.
Say what you want about all the Mexican immigrants, and sure there’s some troubling cultural issues about non-assimilation. I get that. But at least they’re mostly Catholic. Europe’s muslim immigration problem is an order of magnitude more of a pure distilled threat to their culture and history — their existence.
Ah, I see the KOS fifth column has arrived.
Actually I didn't say anything about Mexican immigrants but immigration numbers in general. I'm not interested in open borders if it means giving up what made this country great. I also don't see any other country doing this, only the USA and it's being done completely against the wishes of the vast majority of people. We can have some immigration, and we can also mechanize to a certain degree but we don't have to give away the store.
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