Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Ron Paul's immigration ideas
North County Times ^ | May 24, 2007 | Bill Hasty

Posted on 05/31/2007 8:18:49 AM PDT by The_Eaglet

A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked.

This is Congressman Ron Paul's six-point plan: 1. Physically secure our borders and coastlines. ... 2. Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. ... 3. No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 million to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That's a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws. 4. No welfare for illegal aliens.

(Excerpt) Read more at nctimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; rino; ronisright; ronpaul
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-102 next last

1 posted on 05/31/2007 8:18:50 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: The_Eaglet
That Ron Paul....what a nut, eh?

Secure the borders, no welfare for illegals...what a crazy concept.

L

2 posted on 05/31/2007 8:21:45 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The_Eaglet

Downsize DC will be soooo disappointed. LOL


3 posted on 05/31/2007 8:23:35 AM PDT by desherwood7
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The_Eaglet

5. Don’t make any more stupid “we were responsible for 9/11” comments during debates.


4 posted on 05/31/2007 8:25:13 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lurker

Paul is right on Immigration but a nut on Iraq.

Bush is right on Iraq but a nut on Immigration.

I think Ron Paul is more of a Paleocon than a Libertarian.


5 posted on 05/31/2007 8:26:41 AM PDT by Perdogg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ErnBatavia

That’s good advice for Rudy Giuliani.


6 posted on 05/31/2007 8:27:34 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Lurker
Secure the borders, no welfare for illegals...what a crazy concept.

It seems that way to liberals.

7 posted on 05/31/2007 8:28:11 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: The_Eaglet

Would we do this before we ‘cut and run’ or after, Congressman?


8 posted on 05/31/2007 8:29:07 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The_Eaglet

Sorry but after that debate ron paul is now the gops rosie and some will say a buffoon at that


9 posted on 05/31/2007 8:36:19 AM PDT by italianquaker ("blue dog democrats", that dog don't hunt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: The_Eaglet
It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked.

From what I understand of Ron, he wouldn't fight the terrorists abroad no matter the condition of our borders.

10 posted on 05/31/2007 8:40:07 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The_Eaglet

Ron Paul is right on immigration.


11 posted on 05/31/2007 8:42:17 AM PDT by mysterio
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MEGoody

Then that shows how little you understand.


12 posted on 05/31/2007 8:43:13 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: italianquaker

I doubt that. The election is still a ways off and people are starting to realize just how bizarre Rudy’s comment was.


13 posted on 05/31/2007 8:44:57 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: ErnBatavia
Don’t make any more stupid “we were responsible for 9/11” comments during debates.

He never made that statement.

The 9-11 Commission did.

He merely paraphrased their findings.

L

14 posted on 05/31/2007 8:48:30 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: P-40
Then that shows how little you understand.

Do you have some links to statements Ronnie has made that indicate he is all for fighting the terrorists overseas? Anything I've ever read of his statements indicates otherwise.

15 posted on 05/31/2007 8:54:52 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Lurker
The 9-11 Commission did.

They did? When?
16 posted on 05/31/2007 8:55:26 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: italianquaker

Your pre-emptive apology is accepted.


17 posted on 05/31/2007 8:56:03 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

Just heard him on the Dennis Miller Show and he’s out to lunch about Irag.


18 posted on 05/31/2007 8:59:33 AM PDT by ONEBYEONE
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: MEGoody

What was his vote for the war in Afghanistan?


19 posted on 05/31/2007 9:04:09 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: P-40

I asked for a link. Got one?


20 posted on 05/31/2007 9:24:33 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: The_Eaglet

lol and good luck with rosie


21 posted on 05/31/2007 9:27:18 AM PDT by italianquaker ("blue dog democrats", that dog don't hunt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: ONEBYEONE

Where is irag?


22 posted on 05/31/2007 9:28:08 AM PDT by sopwith (don't tread on me)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: MEGoody

Better than that, I asked you how he voted on Afghanistan...which is both overseas and a hotbed of terrorism.


23 posted on 05/31/2007 9:28:23 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: ErnBatavia
Don’t make any more stupid “we were responsible for 9/11” comments during debates.

Since you claim to directly quote Dr. Paul (hence your quotation marks), I assume that you can show where the original quotation from Dr. Paul appeared in the debate. Please do so or, to quote Rudy, take this chance to retract your comments.

24 posted on 05/31/2007 9:29:15 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Lurker
He never made that statement. The 9-11 Commission did.

Ah yes, Jamie Gorelick and the rest of the Dems trying to cover their asses, and Sandy Burglar ripping off the National Archives so that material which was SUPPOSED to be made available never got in their hands.

You guys are cherry-picking at best, dishonest at worst. Don't you have about 10,000 e-mails to write, or polls to spam? Be good little Catoistas and move along. Lew Rockwell demands you worship at his altar!
25 posted on 05/31/2007 9:30:47 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: sopwith
Where is irag?

On the border with Syries! You didn't know? It's a hugh country!
26 posted on 05/31/2007 9:32:09 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: OCCASparky

:*)


27 posted on 05/31/2007 9:35:51 AM PDT by sopwith (don't tread on me)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Austin Willard Wright

What can I say? I saw him say it, and heard him say it (not live...day after - if it was an “out of context”, it’s the king of all “out of contexts”)


28 posted on 05/31/2007 9:38:06 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: P-40
So what you are saying is you have no links to prove that Paul has ever made statements indicating he was all for fighting terrorists overseas.

Thanks, and have a good day. Let me know if you find anything.

29 posted on 05/31/2007 9:40:21 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: OCCASparky

Now now, don’t be taunting the Istas sparky.


30 posted on 05/31/2007 9:41:35 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: OCCASparky
You guys are cherry-picking at best, dishonest at worst.

Bite me, a**hole

L

31 posted on 05/31/2007 9:41:49 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Austin Willard Wright

“REP. RON PAUL, R-TEXAS, GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: They attack us because we’ve been over there, we’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years. We’ve been in the Middle East. I think Reagan was right. We don’t understand the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics.”

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,273343,00.html

They attacked us because we’ve been over there......you need more clarification than that?


32 posted on 05/31/2007 9:45:23 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: MEGoody
No, what I am saying is that I am not going to waste time finding links to information that you couldn't comprehend anyway.

If you can't see the significance of his stance on Afghanistan...you need help.
33 posted on 05/31/2007 9:45:49 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Lurker

“Bin Ladin saw himself as called “to follow in the footsteps of the Messenger and to communicate his message to all nations,”5 and to serve as the rallying point and organizer of a new kind of war to destroy America and bring the world to Islam.”

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/pdf/sec2.pdf

That is what the 9/11 commission said. Bring the world to Islam — well not the U.S. if Ron Paul was president. Then we would get a “get out of Islam free” pass right?


34 posted on 05/31/2007 9:48:44 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: italianquaker
GOP's Rosie, huh?

A guy that served his country (he was a flight surgeon in the Air Force), delivered thousands of babies (staunchly pro-life) and is perhaps the most pro-Constitution elected official in the last 100 years now has the same ideology of Rosie just because he disagrees with the current nation-building and propping up another regime instead of fighting a real war on terror.

You Paul bashers got issues, you really do.

35 posted on 05/31/2007 9:49:43 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

No not really just ears and tired of listening to rosie either one blame our country when we are attacked


36 posted on 05/31/2007 9:57:29 AM PDT by italianquaker ("blue dog democrats", that dog don't hunt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: P-40
No, what I am saying is that I am not going to waste time finding links to information that you couldn't comprehend anyway.

LOL In other words, you have nothing you can link to that would prove that Ron Paul is in favor of fighting the terrorists overseas.

Thanks.

37 posted on 05/31/2007 10:06:59 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: MEGoody

Do your research. It’s out there.


38 posted on 05/31/2007 10:08:58 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: The_Eaglet
I see you don't have any links either.

I've done enough research to know I'd never support Ronnie for President. But hey, that's okay. The folks over at DU love him.

39 posted on 05/31/2007 10:11:19 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Actually, he said "gops rosie" :

Sorry but after that debate ron paul is now the gops rosie and some will say a buffoon at that

At least he apologized for the nonsense.

40 posted on 05/31/2007 10:12:52 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: MEGoody

His votes are public. Do you not know how to look up votes?


41 posted on 05/31/2007 10:13:08 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: P-40

Do you? Then provide the link or quit whining. LOL


42 posted on 05/31/2007 10:15:00 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: MEGoody
From what I understand of Ron, he wouldn't fight the terrorists abroad no matter the condition of our borders.

This was your statement. The burden of proof is on you to back it up.

43 posted on 05/31/2007 10:15:07 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: MEGoody
The folks over at DU love him.

Would you like some links on the fallacy of "guilt by association" arguments?

44 posted on 05/31/2007 10:17:54 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: tacticalogic
Would you like some links on the fallacy of "guilt by association" arguments?

LOL All I said was that the folks over at DU love him. You can untwist your panties now.

45 posted on 05/31/2007 10:21:01 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: MEGoody
Actually, yes I do. It is very simple to find all sorts of things. The government makes it easy for a citizen of reasonable intelligence to find them.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll342.xml
46 posted on 05/31/2007 10:23:35 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: MEGoody
All I said was that the folks over at DU love him.

Indeed.

47 posted on 05/31/2007 10:25:33 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: Lovebloggers
Now now, don’t be taunting the Istas sparky.

Too late! They're such fun to watch, like kicking over an anthill. Only they're not as dangerous or annoying as ants.
48 posted on 05/31/2007 10:31:12 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Lurker
Bite me, a**hole

Wow. What deflection of rhetoric, what logic, what convincing strategy which will no doubt lead your Kool-Aid sogged masses to victory!

Lemme know when he either 1--raises anywhere near a number of dollars which requires TWO commas, 2--raises anywhere near a number of supporters which will allow his polling numbers to climb out of the asterisk range, 3--has a foreign policy more attuned to 2008 than 1808.

And you might want to read this little story here:
http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2007_05_07/article2.html
49 posted on 05/31/2007 10:38:27 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: The_Eaglet

“Our enemy today, as formidable as he is, cannot compare to the armed might of the Soviet Union in the fall of 1962.

Wisdom and caution on Kennedy’s part in dealing with the crisis was indeed “a profile in courage.” But his courage was not only in his standing up to the Soviets, but his willingness to re-examine our nuclear missile presence in Turkey, which if it had been known at the time would have been condemned as an act of cowardice.

President Bush now has the challenge to do something equally courageous and wise. This is necessary if we expect to avert a catastrophic World War III. When the President asks for patience as he and his advisors deliberate, seeking a course of action, all Americans should surely heed his request.

Mr. Speaker, I support President Bush and voted for the authority and the money to carry out his responsibility to defend this country, but the degree of death and destruction and chances of escalation must be carefully taken into consideration.

It is only with sadness that I reflect on the support, the dollars, the troops, the weapons and training provided by US taxpayers that are now being used against us. Logic should tell us that intervening in all the wars of the world has been detrimental to our self-interest and should be reconsidered.

The efforts of a small minority in Congress to avoid this confrontation by voting for the foreign policy of George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and all the 19th century presidents went unheeded. The unwise policy of supporting so many militants who later became our armed enemies makes little sense whether it’s bin Laden or Saddam Hussein. A policy designed to protect America is wise and frugal and hopefully it will once again be considered. George Washington, as we all know, advised strongly, as he departed his presidency, that we should avoid all entangling alliances with foreign nations.

The call for a non-interventionist foreign policy over past years has fallen on deaf ears. My suggestions made here today may meet the same fate. Yet, if truth is spoken, ignoring it will not negate it. In that case something will be lost. But, if something is said to be true and it is not and is ignored, nothing is lost. My goal is to contribute to the truth and to the security of this nation.”

http://rxpaul.townhall.com/Default.aspx?mode=post&g=c0fa09f6-4644-49df-8c92-c142422a5778

Ah but Dr. Paul we aided the Soviets also in WWII did we not?

Dr. Paul’s solution for 9/11? place a bounty on their heads (we did that, no?) and let the private industry sort it all out. None of this nasty war business. When the Cole was hit we should have ran away. We did not listen, and not look.

Appeasement president? no thanks, we had that with Billy-Jeff.

Saddam Hussein had said that Americans do not have the patience for war. So true.


50 posted on 05/31/2007 10:48:06 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-102 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson