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The JFK files
The Boston Globe ^ | May 28, 2007 | David Mehegan, Globe Staff

Posted on 06/01/2007 5:36:49 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5

A storied former prosecutor scrutinizes one of the most debated crimes in American history The murder of President John F. Kennedy has provoked by far more suspicion, argument, obsession, and especially book-publishing than any similar event in American history. Now famed lawyer and true-crime writer Vincent Bugliosi has produced what he hopes will be the book to exceed all others. "Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy" may do that, in weight (5.3 pounds) as well as content, but it's clear that if his editor hadn't insisted he turn over the manuscript after 21 years of labor, the almost-superhuman effort might have wrecked his health.

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Reclaiming history is an apt name for a book that after 1600 pages and 1.5 million words which took about twenty years to write, the author proves to the readers that Oswald killed Kennedy. Now the real question will the theorists actually read the thing? Doubt it.
1 posted on 06/01/2007 5:36:50 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Shooter 2.5
I've seen Bugliosi interviewed many times on TV. His appearances have never disabused me of my assessment that he's a square shooter with feet firmly planted in reality.

He's a good writer, has a keen legal mind and most importantly, he's got no political axe to grind.

Leni

2 posted on 06/01/2007 5:43:14 PM PDT by MinuteGal (The Freeper Caribbean Beach Resort Vacation Getaway,Thread is Up! Use keywords "FReeps Ashore".)
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To: The KG9 Kid

I was at Dealy Plaza last week and I overheard one of the “guides” explain there were seven assassins. The way he explained it, they were all behind the picket fence. That scenario must have sounded like a warzone.

As I was leaving, another of the guides was explaining about the “explosives” going off just before the planes hit the Twin Towers.

Sometimes it can be pretty entertaining but only in small doses.


3 posted on 06/01/2007 5:45:20 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: MinuteGal

He was here in Dallas last week for a book signing and I missed it. I would have loved to sit back and watch him disassemble the “theorists” who would have shown up.


4 posted on 06/01/2007 5:48:18 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Dont you find it a bit strange that Oswald was assassinated by a Mafia bit player , that RFK was assassinated, that Monroe committed suicide , that Hoffa was killed, that Jackie married a geeky albeit powerful greek who could protect her?

Yeah - lone assassin rrrright.


5 posted on 06/01/2007 5:53:27 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Shooter 2.5

I mean it sincerely when I say that I would have a hard time not socking someone in the diaphragm if I heard that crap. I hope you shredded them in full public view with the truth. At least I hope you at least guffawed or called bullshit on them.


6 posted on 06/01/2007 6:04:16 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: spanalot

Prove it. Tell me exactly who shot Kennedy, where they were standing and how that scenario matches the trajectories.

Every single “theorists” has to out and out lie in order to claim some sort of wacked out conspiracy.


7 posted on 06/01/2007 6:04:31 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: spanalot

I’ve read that Joe DiMaggio believed that the Kennedys killed Marilyn Monroe. Reportedly they were about to remarry at the time she was found dead.


8 posted on 06/01/2007 6:04:48 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: The KG9 Kid

For the first guy, I was laughing hysterically. Some others in his crowd basically gave me a thumbs up. Later, I had a chance to talk to him and he had no idea how the shooting occured. He was just mouthing nonsense to the tourist rubes for tips.

The second guy? I was on my way out and yelled out a disgusted “Jesus Christ” and kept walking. What an idiot.


9 posted on 06/01/2007 6:09:12 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Shooter 2.5

How many more years do we have to wait for JFK’s White House recordings and papers to be released and what will remain 50 years after his death?

Will his guardians have purged what they couldn’t bury?


10 posted on 06/01/2007 6:11:04 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: weegee

Already released and nothing worth adding to what was is already known.


11 posted on 06/01/2007 6:13:11 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Verginius Rufus
From what I have read over the years, it appears that Oswald could not have hit a bull in the ass with a bass fiddle. His Marine training, according to various articles, tend to indicate that he was a poor shot. Add to that a mail order Italian carbine ($15 in the catalog at that time) with manual bolt action from a difficult angle.

I'm not a conspiratorialist, but I do have a difficult time believing that this was a one man job who just got lucky.

12 posted on 06/01/2007 6:14:45 PM PDT by tenthirteen
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To: Shooter 2.5
I didn’t get around to seeing the movie Slacker until this year. While it was hyped as a movie about Austin in the 1990s, it is really shot and centered on the late 1980s Austin.

There is a “improvised” historical lecture on assassins by a genuine UT professor. He may be playing a character but he looks at the Texas capital building and wishes someone would blow it up. Doesn’t strike me far off of the damned intellectual mindset. “Listen to ME...”

Question authority, especially of those who see themselves as the arbiters of unwritten “truths”.

13 posted on 06/01/2007 6:15:22 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Shooter 2.5

I think its plausible that Oswald got off all shots but for sure he was not acting alone. I think the mob and KGB were in cahoots - maybe Johnson too.


14 posted on 06/01/2007 6:15:39 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Shooter 2.5

The RECORDINGS have been released? I mean, they made a whole book of LBJ’s recordings (things like his “insurance” letter against the Houston Chronicle to not criticize his administration in exchange for letting a bank merger go through).

It was JFK who had the taping system installed in the White House that would eventually get Nixon in trouble.


15 posted on 06/01/2007 6:18:53 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: The KG9 Kid; y'all
Hey Kid.. Have you read this new book?

I wonder how Vince deals with the facts that using the Warren Report itself, and the Z film:
- We can throw out the 1st shot at an [early] frame in the 160's, as JFK disappeared [to Oswald] in the foliage at frame 166. - Unless it missed, which is contradicted by most all other evidence.

At frame 166, - Oswald would have had to be standing, - or seated leaning far out of the window, - in order to achieve the steep downward angle to his target, - which was also moving away down the street to the right.
Tough shot, which he probably did not take.

We are then left with this sequence:
First shot at frame 210, - 'neck' hit.
Cycle bolt [2.3 seconds] aim, fire, miss. [curb hit?]
Cycle bolt [2.3 seconds] aim, fire, head shot [frame 313].

The shot at frame 210 is still at a fairly steep down angle, with the limo going to Oswalds right, making it even more difficult to line up the single bullet with JFK's wounds - and Connelly's wounds.

Thus, the 3rd shot is the 'easy one' from Oswalds position, with the down angle decreased and the limo going fairly straight away.

All told, the sequence of shots that Specter dreamed up has major flaws. - And has never been duplicated convincingly .

16 posted on 06/01/2007 6:23:59 PM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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To: spanalot

Dont you find it a bit strange that Oswald was assassinated by a Mafia bit player , that RFK was assassinated, that Monroe committed suicide , that Hoffa was killed, that Jackie married a geeky albeit powerful greek who could protect her?

Almost sounds like all the deaths surrounding the Clintons.


17 posted on 06/01/2007 6:26:42 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: tenthirteen
"His Marine training, according to various articles, tend to indicate that he was a poor shot. Add to that a mail order Italian carbine ($15 in the catalog at that time) with manual bolt action from a difficult angle."

That's exactly the thing that has bothered me about this shooting for all these years. For a poor shot like Oswald to have made those three shots in the time and place he did would have required him to train long and hard with that rifle. I don't believe that Carcano rifle, scope, and mount would have held up long enough for him to fire the number of shots he would have had to fire to achieve the degree of marksmanship expertise he would have needed to fire those three final shots.

18 posted on 06/01/2007 6:42:13 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

http://home.earthlink.net/~sixthfloor/estes.htm


19 posted on 06/01/2007 6:43:55 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Verginius Rufus

do you have any links? Joe did send flowers everday for years and years.


20 posted on 06/01/2007 6:45:02 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Shooter 2.5
“Case Closed” by Gerald Posner.

The definitive book on the JFK assassination.

21 posted on 06/01/2007 7:26:38 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: DJ Taylor

Oswald was not a poor shot.

He reached the level of “sharpshooter” in the USMC. That’s not the highest level. But it’s not the lowest either.


22 posted on 06/01/2007 7:28:23 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Shooter 2.5
Reclaiming history is an apt name for a book that after 1600 pages and 1.5 million words which took about twenty years to write, the author proves to the readers that Oswald killed Kennedy.

He could have saved himself the effort. Gerald Posner did the same thing 14 years ago in 900 fewer pages.

23 posted on 06/01/2007 7:32:02 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: spanalot
Dont you find it a bit strange that Oswald was assassinated by a Mafia bit player , that RFK was assassinated, that Monroe committed suicide , that Hoffa was killed, that Jackie married a geeky albeit powerful greek who could protect her?

No. Why, do you?

24 posted on 06/01/2007 7:33:38 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Bobkk47
When I was in the Marine Corps, 1959-1963, anyone who didn't qualify Expert was considered a poor shot.
25 posted on 06/01/2007 7:38:28 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: spanalot

I just now typed “joe dimaggio marilyn monroe death kennedy” on Google and the first hit was to a piece from 2003 from a Scottish paper about a book by Morris Engelberg claiming that’s what Joe DiMaggio believed.


26 posted on 06/01/2007 7:44:26 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Shooter 2.5

I have only just started listening to the book. I got the book simply because I had read one of his other books and really liked it: ‘And the Sea Will Tell”.

I have heard Buglosi is a bit of a Lefty, but that notwithstanding, I bought the book.

Interesting. He just described an incident where he was speaking at a Lawyers convention of some kind, big crowd, and some lawyers in the crowd started asking him questions about the Kennedy assassination with a tone that clearly displayed their inclination to believe there was a conspiracy.

Buglosi asked to see a show of hands to display who in the crowd did not accept the findings of the Warren Commission, and was astounded by the vast majority of hands that went up, something like 90%. He then said to the crowd something to the effect of “What if I can prove to you in one minute or less, that, although you are all intelligent people, you are not thinking intelligently about the Kennedy case?” There was a stir, his challenge apparently sounded ridiculous...how could he prove in one minute or less that more than 600 lawyers were not thinking intelligently?

Someone shouted out “We don’t think you can do it!” He said, “Okay, start looking at your watches. With the clock ticking, he asked for another show of hands to indicate who had seen the recent movie JFK by Oliver Stone, or at any time in the past had read a book, magazine or article that advocated a conspiracy or tried to discredit the Warren Commission.

Again, nearly the same amount of hands went up. He proceeded to tell the group that he didn’t need a show of hands for his next point. He said: “I am sure that you will all agree that before you form an intelligent opinion on a matter in dispute, you should hear both sides of the issue. As an old West Virginia Mountaineer said: “No matter how thin I make my pancakes, they always have two sides.” With that in mind, how many of you have read the Warren Report?”

It was embarrassing. only a few people raised their hands. In 47 seconds, he had proved his point.

The overwhelming majority had rejected the findings of the Warren Commission without bothering to read the commission’s report. He noted he had not even asked how many had read all 26 volumes...not just the single volume summary.

I found that pretty persuasive, and have only just started. As an example of things people say about the assassination (and I see some here) he used example of people saying it was a cheap gun and could not have obtained that kind of accuracy.

As a matter of fact, the actual gun used in the assassination was tested by a Marine Corps expert, who stated that the gun that had cost $12.50 was actually quite accurate and reproducible with repeated firings, at least as good as an M-14. (That is in the Warren Report)

Another fallacy was that Oswald was a lousy marksman. As a Marine, he actually shot a 212 on a range which qualified him as a sharpshooter. (also in the Warren Report)

Additionally, he used the often cited bromide (which I have heard) that nobody has ever been able to simulate repeating the feat of shooting that Oswald was supposed to have achieved. In actuality, it has indeed been repeated a few times, and even improved on. (An expert hit 3 of 3 shots in that time frame on a moving target simulating those speeds and trajectories using nearly the exact type of bolt action weapon)

Mind you, I am only a small way into the book, but I have always had an open mind about this...I always felt “yeah, it might have been more than one person...but nobody has proven it to me...” kind of mindset. If he can be this persuasive before he even gets into the meat of the book...this should be interesting.


27 posted on 06/01/2007 7:49:33 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Shooter 2.5

I was in the sixth grade when JFK was shot. I decided with my own thinking at the time that it was a conspiracy and nothing has changed my mind since. This is what convinced me. I was looking at Life or Look magazine which had the famous photo of Ruby shooting Oswald. The caption had Oswald’s words which were “Jack, you SOB.” To me that sure sounded not only like someone who knew his killer, but who also it rang to me of betrayal. The motives of Oswald in the plot to kill the President could have been many, considering his suspicious history. But Ruby’s motivation to kill Oswald is where explanations are hard to come by. Ruby was a two-bit low level hoodlum who had little history that would explain his motivations. Bugliosi is a very smart man with a tremendous ego who wants to prove the world wrong and validate his ego. I have often said that we have more facts about the assassination of Julius Caesar than JFK. Caesar was stabbed 23 times. There is great debate about whether the hole in Kennedy’s throat was an entry or an exit wound or simply the incision for the trachea tube which kept him on life support.


28 posted on 06/01/2007 7:55:06 PM PDT by Biblebelter (I can't believe people still watch TV with the sound on.)
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To: rlmorel
There are some nuts here on FR who criticize the “Oswald did it” crowd because we believe in the Warren Report. I have news for them. I have never read the Report. I did look at the conclusions and I think they are a mess. It’s definitely a conclusion by committee.

I simply read the autopsy, the testimonies and looked at the photos. That’s enough to convince anyone that Oswald killed Kennedy.

29 posted on 06/01/2007 8:30:24 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: DJ Taylor

If your post means a qualified Marine can’t hit a head and shoulders target at 44 and 88 yards with a scoped rifle from a rest, that would mean all Marines are poor shots.


30 posted on 06/01/2007 8:32:47 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Occam’s Razor.

Or, if you are in Arizona and hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.


31 posted on 06/01/2007 8:33:55 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: spanalot

You have a forum, so prove it.

By the way. Johnson was in the motorcade. He couldn’t have been in two places at the same time.


32 posted on 06/01/2007 8:35:14 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Biblebelter

What “great debate”?
The back bullet hole had a halo around it which says it was a entrance wound.

If you don’t think a 161 grain bullet traveling 2000 feet a second can’t go through six inches of flesh, take a ham out of the tin and hold it in front of you. Have someone shoot it with a centerfire rifle.

I promise I’ll send flowers.


33 posted on 06/01/2007 8:41:28 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: rlmorel
Yeah, I’m getting tired of the BS. You would think Freepers would have some way of thinking exactly how it was done instead of this lazy, “I think ...... did it”.

I would hate to be on a jury with these geniuses. As one Freepers said, “Shooter, I would hate to be the defendant”.

34 posted on 06/01/2007 8:45:01 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Shooter 2.5

I do not, as a rule believe in conspiracies.

I read once that as the number of people involved in a keeping a secret increases linearly, the likelihood that it will remain a secret decreases logarthimically.

Given my observation of human nature, I believe that to be true.


35 posted on 06/01/2007 8:49:03 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Bobkk47

I read that one.


36 posted on 06/01/2007 8:50:48 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Bobkk47

Never read it but I heard as good as it is, it has some minor flaws.

Here you go with the evidence:

The first bullet missed and hit a curb. The bullet fragments or concrete hit a man named James Tague who was standing near the underpass. That bullet or fragments were never found.
The second bullet traveled 2000 fps to hit the president 5 1/2inches [14 Centimeters]below the Mastoid Process[there’s a picture of the hole and the ruler The bullet wound also exhibited a Halo Effect which is a ring around a typical high speed bullet entrance wound], it hit no bones and exited out his neck[1772 to 1,779 feet per second] clipping his tie[photos of the tie]. It traveled 28 inches away[trajectory report]to hit Connelly near the right armpit[Doctor’s report] clipping his rib[Doctor’s report]and keyholed out his chest
leaving a 2 inch by 1/2 inch wound [Doctor’s report]. Connelly’s label moves outward. [Zapruder film] At this point it had only hit one bone and is now flying sideways when it hit the wrist [3/4 inch wound] and buries itself in a shallow wound[very little soft tissue damage,[Doctor’s report] in the thigh leaving an amount of lead in the thigh. The amount of lead in the wrist and the bullet add up to the original weight of 161 grains which is the same amount of the bullets from the Western Ammunition Company. Connelly had a broken rib bone and wrist bone. {Doctor’s report]. Cloth from his clothing was found in his wrist.

The third bullet hit Kennedy in the back of the head toward the right side forcing his head to move forward by approximately two inches. The bullet broke into two pieces at the bullet’s cannelure. One piece cracked the inside of the windshield near the mirror. The second fragment hit the chrome strip at the top of the windshield. There are photographs in evidence of the crack and the dent. The two pieces were found at the front of the limousine, one on the floorboard and the other on the seat. The Zapruder film shows Kennedy’s head moving approximately two to three inches forward at the moment of impact. The photographs of Kennedy’s head and skull show a small entrance hole and a large exit hole. Cratering of the hole at the back of the skull is typical of entrance holes. [Autopsy Report]

I think I’ll add the Zapruder frames next time. Especially the ones which show Connelly lapel blowing outward from the second bullet and Kennedy’s forward impact from the third.


37 posted on 06/01/2007 8:50:59 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Now the real question will the theorists actually read the thing? Doubt it.

Agree. And the tin foil hat conspiracy industry will claim it's just another cover up and make more millions in the process. It's an enterprise now, not history.

I always accepted the results of the Warren Commission but had some doubts ... until I visited to School Book Depositor in Dallas and looked out the same windows that Oswald did.

The TV views of that area make it look large. It's not. From that window, anyone with a steady hand and a minimal amount of familiarity with a rifle could have made those shots.

That visit ended any doubt that I had. I recommend it to doubters.

38 posted on 06/01/2007 9:02:59 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Ditto

Yep.

Live camera. You might decide to wait for daylight. Oh, and it revolves for the full view.

http://www.earthcam.com/jfk/dealey_nojava.php


39 posted on 06/01/2007 9:06:31 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: tenthirteen
From what I have read over the years, it appears that Oswald could not have hit a bull in the ass with a bass fiddle.

I don't know what you are reading, but Oswald qualified as a marksmen in the US Marine Corps. Recruits who can't "hit a bull in the ass with a bass fiddle" never made it out of Paris Island, then or now. They were called "wash outs." Maybe they sent them to the Navy... but every Marine who gets the Globe & Anchor can shoot. ;~)))

Add to that a mail order Italian carbine ($15 in the catalog at that time) with manual bolt action...

That Italian "carbine" happens to be a very serviceable rifle. It was the standard issue weapon for the Italian Army in WW I & II. It was not the best rifle in the world by any means, but it was not junk. It's price at that time had nothing to with it's quality. After the end of occupation, the Italian government put many thousands of them on the market as army surplus and they were a decent low end deer rifle.

...from a difficult angle.

If you are ever in Dallas, visit the building and look out the window. Far from being a "difficult angle" you could not ask for a better angle. No traverse necessary --- the motorcade was moving at nearly 180 degrees from him. He had a perfect view. Shot one was from around 70-80 yards and shot three was still less than 100 yards.

Watching the films does not allow you to see how close Oswald really was. And he had a 10X scope on that rifle. I don't claim to be a great shooter, but if I had to hit a target at that distance, from that window, I'd bet serious money that I can do it even without a scope.

40 posted on 06/01/2007 9:51:35 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Frame by frame of the Zapruder film. Note the change in Connally's jacket lapel between frames 223-225, which some think may be the moment the bullet struck him. Note also the angle of Kennedy's head in frame 312 and the forward plume caused by the bullet in 313. No ordinary bullet fired from the front could have caused that, though an explosive bullet might have. But that still leaves the undeniable entry wound on the back of the head near the cow lick.
41 posted on 06/01/2007 11:00:51 PM PDT by jordan8
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To: jordan8
I couldn't find the frame by frame that compares the two for the forward impact on the third shot. Here's the gif on Connelly's lapel.
42 posted on 06/02/2007 6:22:37 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: spanalot

You make a very cogent and compelling case.


43 posted on 06/02/2007 6:33:24 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: rlmorel
I had read one of his other books and really liked it: ‘And the Sea Will Tell”.

Only thing I ever read by Bugliosi was Helter Skelter and that proved - beyond a shadow of a doubt - that Bugliosi sure could write. Not so sure I want to undertake this tome, since I already agree with his conclusions.

44 posted on 06/02/2007 6:42:23 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: jordan8

45 posted on 06/02/2007 6:58:41 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Shooter 2.5

I don’t know about the theories and all of that. What I do know is that with my own eyes I’ve seen the Zapruder film at least a 1,000 times in the last 35 years and every time I watch it, JFK’s head violently snaps backwards and to the left from the fatal shot.

Since Oswald was above him and behind him to the right, would not a fatal head shot from Oswald have snapped JFK’s head forward in a down angle and to the left?

I mean, I’m no physicist and I’m no doctor, but I have some common sense and I’ve yet to hear a credible explanation as to how a shot from behind and above can cause the head to violently snap backwards and upwards. I doesn’t make sense.


46 posted on 06/02/2007 7:26:02 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Life is too short to go through it clenched of sphincter and void of humor - it's okay to laugh.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57mVVTtfk6U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNmqJO4dFDE&mode=related&search=


47 posted on 06/02/2007 7:31:55 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: spanalot
Dont you find it a bit strange that Oswald was assassinated by a Mafia bit player , that RFK was assassinated, that Monroe committed suicide , that Hoffa was killed, that Jackie married a geeky albeit powerful greek who could protect her?

Comspiracy theories explain everything, even when it's not neceaary, Sometines a cigar is just a cigar.

48 posted on 06/02/2007 7:51:43 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ( "In a mature society, civil servant is semantically equal to civil master. --Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Tell me exactly who shot Kennedy, where they were standing and how that scenario matches the trajectories.

Is that important?

I have a certain affection for David Scheim's book Contract on America: The Mafia Murder of John F.Kennedy which goes into intricate detial about who might have wanted to kill JFK, what their friends and accquainatnces thought, while ommitting all mention of what actually happened in Dealy Plaza on the day.

49 posted on 06/02/2007 8:00:56 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ( "In a mature society, civil servant is semantically equal to civil master. --Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
Hot stove reaction. Kennedy was still alive at that point. Not only does Kennedy react but so does Mrs. Kennedy. Connelly actually hits the back of the front seat.

Look at the forward movement from the bullet impact on post 45. That is the initial movement. The solid proof of this is Equal and Opposite Force. Bullets don't push objects with the amount of force exhibited in the back and to the left. A bullet would push someone's head the 2.3 inches in the gif.

Further proof is the autopsy report. The bullet wound at the back of the head was the size of the bullet. The exit wound was much larger. Small hole in, large hole out. The rear bullet wound also was cratered. It's as though a bb hits a glass window with the larger size on the inside.

There's also the two bullet fragments. They came from the Carcano and one hit the inside of the windshield near the rearview mirror and the other hit the inside window trim. One was found on the front seat and the other on the front floorboard.

50 posted on 06/02/2007 8:05:21 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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