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John McCain Warns Illegal Immigration Enforcement Could Lead to Riots
The National Ledger ^ | Jun 3, 2007 | John W Lillpop

Posted on 06/03/2007 10:23:58 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000

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To: TaxPayer2000

Dear Johnny boyremember when the French asked us for a bribe?
Million for Defense, not one cent for tribute.

And then there was that radical George Washington, was he unpatriotic?

“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”


52 posted on 06/03/2007 10:56:13 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: EagleUSA
I wonder if Kennedy, McCain, Kyl and Bush realize they have their collective hands on the hadle of Pandora’s Box, and realize it is about to open ????

Kennedy does, and he's pretty happy about it.

Bush and McCain are delusional.

Kyl had his pocket picked by the old master, Kennedy.


53 posted on 06/03/2007 10:56:55 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: DB

I agree with your #36. Problem is there is nobody willing to enforce that law either. We can’t seem to get enough politicians attention to secure either border, let alone deal with the present invaders.

Some without actually saying so, have the attitude there was an unofficial welcome mat with engraved invitations for cheap work because that is what is *good* for America.


54 posted on 06/03/2007 10:58:09 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: neutronsgalore
"Bingo! And you can warn them ahead of time by declaring that citizens who shoot rioters and looters will be immune to criminal/civil prosecution."

Correct! , and hopefully not necessary. During the last LA riots, the people protecting their property were not molested by the Gobernment. Hopefully, that will hold true, but I would not bet on it.

55 posted on 06/03/2007 10:59:04 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: CaptainK

I think McCain needs to stop running for president, calm down, and does his job.


56 posted on 06/03/2007 11:00:44 PM PDT by fabian
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To: fabian

I think McCain needs to stop running for president, calm down, and does his job.

He needs to go back to crashing airplanes thats the only thing he’s been good at..


57 posted on 06/03/2007 11:02:29 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: SugarCain
How do these people in Washington get elected?

Could it be that millions of the 30 million illegal aliens are voting, changing the very direction and course of this country.

What would they expect to eventually happen when 30 million people are allowed to enter illegally, given free goodies, health care etc.

Does anyone think this will not start affecting our electoral process?

58 posted on 06/03/2007 11:03:44 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: All

I really want to respect Sen. McCain for his service, the man went through some horrific times. I am not sure if that has anything to do with his going over the deep end, but over the deep end, he has gone. “They will riot”, is just one of the latest of the many defenses for this moronic bill. You will hear many more before this is over, “dividing families”, Obama is still on that one, “living in the shadows”, is a hard sell when you have a million protesting in the streets. This bill is evidence that the socialism is no longer just creeping in this country, it is going full speed towards a third world, socialists, PC crap-hole. See tagline for solution.


59 posted on 06/03/2007 11:04:59 PM PDT by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter '08 'Doing the jobs Americans aren't willing to do.')
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To: dragnet2
I’m done with this idiot. This is not France and we would never give up a portion of any US city to illegals. The National Guard would be called in and order restored.
McStupid just lost any consideration I would have given him for my vote.
60 posted on 06/03/2007 11:07:12 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: TaxPayer2000

Following the riots there should be an even more widespread CRACKdown on illegal alien employers..


61 posted on 06/03/2007 11:07:50 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: F15Eagle
Had it been McCain in charge, the war against the Mafia would have not been fought at all.

He surely acts like he's on their payroll. McCain has always given me the creeps.

62 posted on 06/03/2007 11:10:50 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: WildcatClan
[.. I really want to respect Sen. McCain for his service, the man went through some horrific times. ..]

SLAP.... SLAP... come out of it.. HELLO... you there?...

63 posted on 06/03/2007 11:12:42 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: TaxPayer2000

McCain is an idiot.


64 posted on 06/03/2007 11:15:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: LaineyDee

I can’t believe anybody in Arizona is going to re-elect a sellout traitor politician after this amnesty treason.

Especially after that little war that was fought in Arizona a few weeks ago.

War is Coming to Tucson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1842600/posts


65 posted on 06/03/2007 11:15:58 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: TaxPayer2000
It was really nice of him to 'encourage' them. /s

Unbelievable!!!

66 posted on 06/03/2007 11:18:29 PM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one to DIVIDE it!)
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To: F15Eagle

These congresscritters have lost their minds.


67 posted on 06/03/2007 11:19:06 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Plutarch

He’s a maverick alright, he’s dumb as a cow.


68 posted on 06/03/2007 11:20:35 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: TaxPayer2000
Aww, is Senator McCain intimidated?

Psst, hey John.. BOO !!

69 posted on 06/03/2007 11:22:58 PM PDT by Sir Clean Plate Club (Gore feels things are getting warmer because he is on his way to Hell)
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To: tennmountainman

Deputize with limited immunity and incentive-inducing bounties. Let the states do the same thing to employers.

Yes, this will create corrupt coalitions of illegals ratting each other out and paying off politicos, but is that really any worse than what we have now?


70 posted on 06/03/2007 11:23:18 PM PDT by IslandJeff ("I used to care, but things have changed" - Robert Zimmerman)
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To: tennmountainman

How does a man survive all those years in NVA capture and then wimp-out to surrender to an illegal invasion?

I mean, one has to be incredibly strong to survive POW camp like he did. And now, he’s acting like somebody spilled ice cream on his skirt and he’s crying like a little girl. Really odd.


71 posted on 06/03/2007 11:23:37 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
In case you hadn't noticed, the thousands of people who have been relegated to ghettos have risen up and burned cars in France

Oh Mr. McCain, please save us from these coming riots and destruction, please give them amnesty so they won't burn our cities.

72 posted on 06/03/2007 11:25:08 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Sir Clean Plate Club
BOO !!

Stop! You're scaring Senator McCain!!!!!
73 posted on 06/03/2007 11:25:21 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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Illegals rioting? All the more reason to kill this bill. We want to give amnesty to a group of people who have so little respect for our country and our laws that they violently rebel against us.

Keep your powder dry. I’m not submitting to policy by riot, and I doubt anyone else here is either. What an absolutely cowardly position to take. We have to appease them or else they will riot? Are you freekin kidding me?

Thank God for the Second Amendment.


74 posted on 06/03/2007 11:26:21 PM PDT by Da Mav
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To: TaxPayer2000

If he means by The Race (La Raza), he is right.


75 posted on 06/03/2007 11:27:59 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Stop the ethnic cleansing of American citizens in the SW. Save America, Congress!)
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To: F15Eagle
How does a man survive all those years in NVA capture

The bigger question is:

What did he do there that fellow POW (and my congressman) Sam Johnson was so repulsed by that Johnson refused to endorse McCain for President?

76 posted on 06/03/2007 11:28:23 PM PDT by peyton randolph (What we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal - Albert Pike)
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To: peyton randolph

Wow, don’t know; never heard that before. I know I’d hate to be at the hands of the NVA and their Russian / Chinese enablers though.


77 posted on 06/03/2007 11:30:48 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Riots? Thats why we have ammo!


78 posted on 06/03/2007 11:31:20 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: TaxPayer2000

IIRC, the MAJORITY of the rioters in the 1992 LA Riot were Hispanic.


79 posted on 06/03/2007 11:31:38 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Stop the ethnic cleansing of American citizens in the SW. Save America, Congress!)
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To: Cacique
I have seen, with ever growing concern, the brazen disconnect between the will of the American people and our elected representatives on the subject of Amensty. Obviously, there will be dissent on the best way to deal with the continually growing influx of illegal aliens to our country; but there is a strong majority who believe we must stem the tide - and do it now!

Over the years, people have gotten used to hearing the word "right" slapped onto every cause and into many a slogan/jingle. It's gotten so that anyone can claim anything as a "right," when the reality is that many of the things we hold dear are not "rights" at all, they are privileges.

The Constitution specifically enumerates what "rights" we, as human beings, possess by virtue of our humanity - for those who believe in God, our Divine Birthright. But many of the comforts we enjoy: medical care, education, social assistance, etc., are privileges of living in America, paid for American taxpayers. While basic rights should be extended to all people in our shores, legal or not, the "privileges" that come from being an American should only be extended to those who were invited to join our Society. This is what irks many the most. Not only are privileges of citizenship being extended to non-citizens, they are being offered on a platter!

While I applaud our folks for leading the charge, making the calls, and sending the e-mails/faxes to propose this onerous legislation, it appears that Washington stands ready to turn a deaf-ear. Our howls of outrage are becoming "white noise."

Perhaps it is time to make a more visual presence? Just a few ideas came to me, and I will happily let other FReepers take the helm:

How about we turn out, en masse, wearing the color RED to symbolize our anger? Red, one of the colors of our great flag? Red, the color of patriotic blood, shed to preserve our country? Red, the color of countless victims' blood, shed by illegal criminals finding safe harbor in our shores? Red, the color of the ink used to print the huge balooning national deficit our children will face due to all the "entitlements" this amnesty bill will heap upon us? Red ribbons. Red lettering on signs. Red bumper stickers "NO AMENSTY."

Like the "Gore/Leiberman" "Sore/Loserman" slogans, and the "Support the Troops" rallies before - or even the "Count the Silverware" campaign, I think that actions will definitely speak louder than words.

80 posted on 06/03/2007 11:34:05 PM PDT by WriterInTX (I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE)
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To: WriterInTX

People actually have been making noise - just ask the RNC and most Congressional offices.

We just can’t let up, because Washington has a tin ear on this one.


81 posted on 06/03/2007 11:35:42 PM PDT by IslandJeff ("I used to care, but things have changed" - Robert Zimmerman)
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To: F15Eagle
I can’t believe anybody in Arizona is going to re-elect a sellout traitor politician after this amnesty treason.

I couldn't believe he was elected LAST time.

I read a book about 20 years ago about a coming second American revolution... and what would it would eventually take to protect our rights as American citizens. It was almost prophetic....

82 posted on 06/03/2007 11:39:00 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: All

Latinos and the 1992 Los Angeles Riots: A Behavioral Sciences Perspective (Hispanic Journal of Behavioral Sciences, Vol. 15, No. 4, 427-448 (1993)
DOI: 10.1177/07399863930154001
© 1993 SAGE Publications) “...Latino residents of South Central Los Angeles participated in the riots ...not markedly different from more affluent Latinos in nonneglected areas.”
http://hjb.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/15/4/427

The same could be said for blacks. Some of the most hateful black militants are not poor or oppressed. It’s about identity politics and specials rights for social groups. If all this immigration of recent years had happened from Mexico 100 years ago, without the cultural Marxists running around, I would have much less to fear. Of course, Hispanics would now be 50% of the pop instead of 25%...


83 posted on 06/03/2007 11:40:01 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Stop the ethnic cleansing of American citizens in the SW. Save America, Congress!)
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To: SteveMcKing
"Is he THREATENING us?"

Well,
Yes.

Are you surprised?
Well,
Are you?

84 posted on 06/03/2007 11:40:55 PM PDT by norton
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To: TaxPayer2000
``In case you hadn't noticed, the thousands of people who have been relegated to ghettos have risen up and burned cars in France,'' McCain said. ``They've got huge problems in France. They have tremendous problems. The police can't even go into certain areas in the suburbs of Paris. I don't want that in the suburbs of America.''

So, to avoid the problem caused by immigration in France, he wants open immigration in America?


85 posted on 06/03/2007 11:42:22 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Any Senator, Member of the House or President who lets the situation get so bad that enforcing the immigration law would lead to riots should either resign or be impeached.


86 posted on 06/03/2007 11:49:24 PM PDT by sourcery (Democrat: n. 1. Quiche-eating surrender donkey.)
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To: hosepipe

I said, “want to” not that I did. McCain would be the last I would vote for, but if he went through what has been suggested I can respect his service while criticizing his ideology, if this crap he regurgitates can be called ideology. I found this link, not sure of its veracity nor have I vetted it and it is the first I have heard of this. Given McCain’s disturbing affection for terrorists and foreign invaders what does that say of the man we would anoint King, that he supported him in 2000 and is still close with him as I understand? The link:http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/mccain.html Any info on this feel free to reply privately.


87 posted on 06/03/2007 11:50:13 PM PDT by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter '08 'Doing the jobs Americans aren't willing to do.')
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To: All

Bill O’Reilly to McCain:The White,Christian,male power is in jeopardy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI-2MM0I1MA


88 posted on 06/03/2007 11:55:00 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: tennmountainman
"Deputize me today!"

Must maintain the chain of command and the rule of law as long as possible to avoid total chaos and anarchy. See your local sheriff. He's/she's authorized to do that, being elected by the good Citizens of your county. Giterdone early. May not be time to do that after the ballon goes up. Take a bunch with you. You'll probably have to buy your own guns and a hat, but maybe you can bargain for some ammo. A stand-by reserve. Yeah, that should work.

If the enemy, whoever they turned out to be, knows we've got the numbers and are organized somewhat, it may be just enough to avoid a worst-case scenario.

89 posted on 06/03/2007 11:58:34 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Altura Ct.

LOL, I notice you had the only comment there until I posted. Seriously, how do you really feel, don’t mince words, lol?


90 posted on 06/04/2007 12:02:06 AM PDT by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter '08 'Doing the jobs Americans aren't willing to do.')
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To: TaxPayer2000

Yeeesh, McManiac has decided to mimic the French socialists.

Royal: If you don’t vote for me there will be riots!

McLame: If we don’t grant amnesty the aliens will riot!

Weird.


91 posted on 06/04/2007 12:02:07 AM PDT by Ronin (Bushed out!!! Another tragic victim of BDS. Now an official Fredhead!)
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To: WildcatClan

I’m just tired of it all. I’m tired of my concerns being minimized and demonized. I’m tired of America being turned into a free-for-all with no concern for our history, ancestors or our well being. I’m tired of our elected officals only being concerned about the dollar bill above all else. This is not the America I learned about nor the America I love. I’m just tired of trying to be “nice” about it when in reality AFAIC they are out to destroy America and in essence harm my family and our posterity.


92 posted on 06/04/2007 12:13:46 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: TaxPayer2000

In my neck of the woods, the rioters don’t stand a chance. The locals are loaded for bear and know the terrain.

Where rioting would make a difference, though, is the inner cities, where the dirtbags and thugs have been enabled for 40 years and the residents feel no ownership and care nothing about what happens to their locale. (During the Rodney King riots, the local residents had no problem trashing their own neighborhoods.)

If entire inner city blocks were burned to the ground, they’d just sit and wait for the meals-on-wheels trucks to show up like the Hurricane Katrina “victims”.


93 posted on 06/04/2007 12:16:28 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Bad spellers of the world untie!!)
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To: TaxPayer2000
"In case you hadn't noticed, the thousands of people who have been relegated to ghettos have risen up and burned cars in France,'' McCain said.

McCain needs to be put out to pasture. He's not stable enough to be President....

I wonder if McCain is hoping that his remarks will encourage them to riot now so we'll let them have amnesty to stop the riots? I wouldn't put it past him!

There is a huge difference that he has overlooked. The rioters in France are French citizens now.....

Our situation is totally different. The illegals in America are foreigners and if they start rioting, we will take it as an attack from another country.....

If/when it becomes necessary that we have to defend ourselves from them we will start shooting!

94 posted on 06/04/2007 12:17:58 AM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: TaxPayer2000

The more that Republican politicians (and their Democrat siblings) defend the illegals, the more it seems to me they are defending the campaign contributing companies that wantonly employ them.

Riot that, Sen. McCain.


95 posted on 06/04/2007 12:20:47 AM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Altura Ct.
David Osterlund, June 13, 1995

Its future will depend on the ability of a self-governing nation of free men and women to find within this rich and living charter the way to confront the challenges of the centuries ahead. An active and informed citizenry is necessary to the effective functioning of our constitutional system.

As our first Chief Justice John Marshall wrote, "The people make the Constitution, and the people can unmake it. It is the creature of their own will and lives only by their will."

All of us have an obligation to study the Constitution and participate actively in the system of self-government it establishes. This is an obligation we owe not only to ourselves and to our posterity, but to the Framers, who risked everything for freedom, and to the brave men and women who throughout our history have preserved the Constitution, often at the cost of their lives. Let us rededicate ourselves to the values the Constitution embodies.

96 posted on 06/04/2007 12:23:29 AM PDT by IslandJeff ("I used to care, but things have changed" - Robert Zimmerman)
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To: TaxPayer2000

There’s a math problem somewhere in here...let me see...last census says about 300 million people in the U.S.; government estimates say about 12 to 20 million illegal aliens (from a multitude of countries) reside in America, taking advantage of it’s legal, law-abiding, tax-paying citizens...300 take away 12=288 million. 300 take away 20=280.

We outnumber illegals by about 280-288 million people.

I think we can take them on with a serious chance of victory, don’t you think? Enough of this “We can’t enforce the laws, we can’t deport illegals, what are you people thinking? There will be riots in the street!!” crapola! >:-(


97 posted on 06/04/2007 12:26:02 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom, Bible Thumper and Proud to be an American! RUN, FRED, RUN!!!)
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To: IslandJeff

Amen!


98 posted on 06/04/2007 12:28:00 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: TaxPayer2000

What a great message to send to terrorists and other criminals. geez


99 posted on 06/04/2007 12:30:01 AM PDT by CT102ndInfSister
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To: TaxPayer2000
Let me get this straight...McCain is against enforcing the laws because the criminals might not like it?!
100 posted on 06/04/2007 12:30:59 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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