Skip to comments.Judge Refuses To Throw Out Bush Threat Case Against Purdue Student-(Anti-Bush Internet Spammer)
Posted on 06/04/2007 9:28:41 AM PDT by tcrlaf
HAMMOND, Ind. -- A Federal judge refused to throw out a Purdue University student's indictment on charges alleging he urged the assassination of President George Bush and made threats against other administration officials.
Friday's ruling by U.S. District Court Judge James Moody clears the way for Vikram Buddhi's trial to begin June 25 in Moody's Hammond courtroom.
Buddhi, an Indian national who was attending advanced engineering classes at Purdue's West Lafayette campus, faces an 11-count complaint for alleged comments he made in an Internet chat room in 2005 and 2006.
The indictment alleges that he made threats against the president, Vice President Dick Cheney and their wives. He also made threats against then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and called for the bombings of the American infrastructure, it alleges.
"It is now legal under international law to bomb key sites in the USA. Iraqis! Give Anglosaxons the tit reaction for the tat action of Bush and the Republicans," Buddhi wrote in one posting, according to federal court records.
Buddhi's federal public defender, John Martin, has argued that Buddhi's comments were protected speech under the First Amendment because they were intended as "political banter" in opposition to the war in Iraq.
For example, on a message board pertaining to defense contractor Halliburton, Buddhi posted that "Bush is a President of Mass Destruction" and "should be electrocuted."
Martin compared the comments to a 1969 U.S. Supreme Court case in which an 18-year-old war protester told a crowd at the Washington Memorial, "If they ever make me carry a rifle, the first man I want to get in my sights is LBJ (President Johnson)."
The high court ruled the protester's comments were simply crude political speech and overturned his conviction.
Buddhi's messages were posted on Yahoo! Finance messages boards on the Internet, although prosecutors say Buddhi attempted to conceal his actions by using someone else's digital identity.
Buddhi has also argued that his indictment was too vague and that his exhortations for someone to "Kill GW Bush" and "Rape and Kill Laura Bush" were not "true threats" because Buddhi was not threatening to do it himself.
The judge rejected all of these arguments, saying the indictment was strong enough that a jury should decide whether Buddhi's threats of violence were illegal.
However, I’m concerned that if they get one DUmmocrat on the jury that it could be a hung jury and he’ll be out to continue.. and be let back into school. Ugh
At which point he should be deported, because his student visa will have expired. There is no unlimited, universal Constitutional right to come to this country.
Oh, you don’t think the University would side with this enemy of ours, that he be allowed to graduate with his PhD? We are stupid in the US.
The university doesn’t issue the visas, it just provides the students with a document they need to apply for a visa. I have no doubt the university would side with our enemy, but there IS a way to get rid of him legally.
Father pleads for justice in son's suspension By Sarah Michalos 08/02/06
B.K. Subbarao isn't trying to argue for his son's innocence. He doesn't want to cause trouble with the University. He just wants Purdue officials to admit when they're wrong. "I'm not here to say my son is innocent, I'm not here to plead his case," Subbarao said. "I don't want sympathy; I want justice."
Subbarao's son, graduate student Vikram Buddhi, was suspended from the University in April after being arrested on April 14 on charges of threatening to kill President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and their wives and threatening to use explosives.
On July 19, Buddhi was released on $100,000 bond by a Hammond, Ind., judge after Subbarao, a decorated captain in the Indian Navy, vouched that his son was not a flight risk. Buddhi was ordered to reside with his father and not use the Internet while he awaits his Aug. 15 trial.
Subbarao said he believes the University violated regulations pertaining to its disciplinary action against Buddhi and has exchanged e-mails with and met with several officials. On July 24, in an e-mail to Michael Brzezinski, director of international students and scholars program, Subbarao said the conditions of Buddhi's bond are that he must either maintain or actively seek employment, or maintain or commence an education program.
"My son has been here teaching for nine years and he's made some kind of contribution, however humble it may be," Subbarao said. In order to work legally, Buddhi must have a student visa, but his expired on May 14. Joe Bennett, vice president for University Relations, said Buddhi's visa renewal was denied because he was not in good standing. "Under federal regulations, he must be a student in good standing for the University to authorize that," Bennett said. "Therefore, he's not in that status and it was not possible f
or the University to extend his student status for his visa."
Under the second condition of the bond release, Buddhi must maintain or commence an education program. His status is still suspended, Bennett said, and that cannot change until he schedules a hearing with the University.
"That can only be addressed through a hearing, which the University is prepared to hold," he said.
Subbarao said Buddhi was advised by his attorney, John Martin, to exercise his Fifth Amendment right and not speak to University officials as it may have an effect on his federal trial. Therefore, there will not be a hearing scheduled until Buddhi decides to speak with officials.
Bennett said, however, that the University and the kernal process are two different things. "They're completely seperate ... the hearing still has to happen and the University process must be completed; they can't be without a hearing," he said.
Another of Subbarao's concerns is that his son was ruled to not be a threat by the federal court, yet Purdue will not use that ruling to guide its own disciplinary action. "The ruling is something that obligates him to meet certain criteria, but does not obligate the University in any way," Bennett said.
Although Subbarao said he will continue to work to have his son's status restored, Bennett said the process is at a standstill. "Purdue has followed its policies and procedures correctly and obeyed the law in all actions related to the case."
1. The guy is from India, and not even a muslim. He has nothing to do with Iraq. The point he has no issues about Afghan war, he only feels its unnecesary of US togo to Iraq war.
2. Putting him in prison for 3 years for a callous and casual remark is scary..really scary.
3. From what appears, he hated GW Bush for sure -Anglosaxons was an extreme statement, I am sure he intended no harm to America or its citizens or to anglosaons except for the unnecessary domination of Vikram. It must be in fit of rage. Bill maher uses much more filthy words than this vikram buddi.
4. Many times during this 6 years 5000 americans have died...we never look at 500000 iraqis dead.
5. He could have been deported instead of jailed for so long.
6. I guess no immigrant hates this country, they might be critical, they might be missing their parents but US is all about personal freedom.
7. He must be a leftist (and you know the university guys) but certainly not a terrorist. My sympathies.
8. His life was totally messed up, I guess we
“Putting him in prison for 3 years for a callous and casual remark is scary..really scary”
It was FAR more than that. The Threats are only what got him caught.
The Hacking, and ID theft felony charges were far more severe.
“Bill maher uses much more filthy words than this vikram buddi”
Bill Maher didn’t say things like, “RISE UP! KILL BASTARD BUSH!! KILL THE ANGLOS!”
“He could have been deported instead of jailed for so long.”
In America, we Deport non-nationals AFTER they have done the sentence for thier crimes. (unless they are connected to the Democrat Party).
SORRY, I have NO sympathy for this Bhuddi clown. He stole HUNDREDS of Yahoo and University ID’s from unsuspecting Purdue Students.
I witnessed his message board spamming, as it happened. it had been going on for DAYS before someone finally notified the Federal Protective Service. And I was all too happy to be deposed at his trial.
Listen pal... this is the USA, not India.
If Vikram Buddy, a man not even from this country, an immigrant, a guy who wants to move here, and take advantage of the benefits of this nation, wants to make a “political statement” which calls for the rape and murder of the first lady, I think he can rot in Jail, and welcome!
MARCH 2005 : (TRUCKDRIVER SHAABAN IS ARRESTED -- See IRAQI SPIES, HUMAN SHIELDS, HOOSIER JIHAD) Shaaban was living near Indianapolis when he was arrested in March 2005. FBI agents who raided his house said they found computer files praising Hussein and an unsigned contract proposing to recruit "human shields" to protect Iraq from the U.S. invasion. Authorities said he had seven passports. ---- Indiana man convicted of spying for Saddam, " Waterbury Republican-American ^ | May 28, 2006 | AP Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 4:05:53 PM by Graybeard58
My only question is how do we get Orly Taiz in front of this judge!
1977 : (INDIANA : BAYAN ELASHI STUDIES COMPUTER SCIENCE AT PURDUE U -- See INFOCOM, IRAQ DOMAIN, HLF, HAMAS) Mr [Bayan] Elashi is an interesting character. A Palestinian, he moved to the US in 1977 where he took a masters degree in Computer Science at Purdue University, Indiana. He then became president and CTO of a Californian IT research company and introduced the world's first Arabic personal computer, Alraed. Then he created another computer company (International Computer and Communications Inc) and became its president. Finally, he created and became president of a third IT company - InfoCom Corporation in Texas in 1992. . ------- "Iraq, its domain and the 'terrorist-funding' owner ," The Register (UK) ^ | Apr. 9, 2003 | Kieren McCarthy, Posted on 04/10/2003 11:55:25 AM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
MAY 9, 1997 : (WEB : IRAQ DOMAIN IS CREATED; BAYAN ELASHI IS APPROVED AS ADMINISTRATIVE CONTACT FOR THE NEW IRAQ DOMAIN) With such a CV, it is not hard to see why he [Bayan Elashi] was approved as administrative and technical contact for the new Iraq domain name when it was created on 9 May 1997. The year 1997 was when the final block of country codes were pulled into the system (since then there have only been four new domains created - Nauru Island, Comoros, Bangladesh and Palestinian Territory). Since Iraq had no infrastructure to speak of, it made sense to give it to an extremely able IT expert who lived in the US. It is perhaps odd then that he did so little with it. While InfoCom was doing a roaring business, hosting 500 companies - many of them Arab or Islamic sites - with a turnover of $7 million a year, the .iq domain was virtually non-existent. ------- "Iraq, its domain and the 'terrorist-funding' owner ," The Register (UK) ^ | Apr. 9, 2003 | Kieren McCarthy, Posted on 04/10/2003 11:55:25 AM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
I Feel we Indians are too hyper and unnecessarily supporting Vikram. Whatever he did is wrong and, even I think the federal judge was too lenient when sentencing Buddi. If he would be a high school guy and then he would have done this miskate, I would definitly support his innocence. But bloody he is a well educated guy, if he sent threat mails, ask for bombing US and raping women.. this is a disgusting thought. He has not only disgraced his parents/friends/family but he also disgraced the whole india. Think about if some Pakistani/afgani student has made the similar comments about our leader and ask for raping our women, what would be then your reaction ?. And first question, if he hates USA so much, what the hell he was doing there for last 10 years?.
I condemn buddi and his deed and may this prison imprisonment will teach him a lesson to respect other human being and women in society.
Thanks for your intelligent post.
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