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20 Worst Loopholes in the Senate Immigration Bill - From Senator Jeff Sessions
Sen. Jeff Sessions ^ | June 2007 | Sen. Jeff Sessions and staff

Posted on 06/04/2007 11:35:27 PM PDT by dennisw

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1 posted on 06/04/2007 11:35:32 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Kimberly GG; Pontiac; OneLoyalAmerican; NeoCaveman; boxerblues; North Coast Conservative

FYI pings!


2 posted on 06/04/2007 11:37:28 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (HDTV ping list, please FReepmail me if you would like your name added.)
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To: dennisw
Loophole 9 – Absconders (those ordered deported) Are Eligible:

Not only that but if the Absconders return to their home country, they will be ineligible for this. So they have an incentive not to leave the US.

3 posted on 06/04/2007 11:43:21 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: dennisw

Just say NO to Amnesty!! Before it’s too late!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


4 posted on 06/04/2007 11:43:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Las Vegas Dave
No WONDER one of the Congressman called this bill, and I quote, "a piece of sh*t".

5 posted on 06/04/2007 11:43:46 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Can 2004 votes be reclaimed? I want mine back-so I can give it postfacto-to the Constitution Party!)
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To: dennisw
Great post BUMP!

I certainly hope that this threads remains active for at least 24 hours.

Posting at 11:35 pm PDT is not conducive to reaching a wide audience, and the little people with time on their hands, the "posting police", are alive and well...

6 posted on 06/04/2007 11:46:25 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: dennisw

This bill is a heinous legislative atrocity. Thank goodness for fine people like Senator Jeff Sessions, who stand for America.


7 posted on 06/04/2007 11:47:53 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Publius6961

I know it’s bad time to post but if not done now it won’t get done


8 posted on 06/04/2007 11:51:42 PM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: dennisw
Thanks for posting this. I had posted it with another thread earlier but it needed its own thread. This looks good.

This is from Session's website and also needs discussing.

Another flaw in the legislation prevents the benefits of merit-based immigration from taking full effect until 2016. Until then, chain migration into the U.S. will actually triple, compared to a disproportionately low increase in skill-based immigration. As a result, the merit-based system in the bill is only a shell of what it should have been.

More than half of South America and Latin America will be crowded in the U.S. by 2016. Our environment nor children have a chance for a decent life.

9 posted on 06/04/2007 11:58:17 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: dennisw

Bumpus Maximus!!!!!


10 posted on 06/05/2007 12:01:14 AM PDT by Maigrey (My tagline is roasting over an open fire, and global warming is nipping at your nose...)
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To: dennisw

I’m so tired of hearing this. It was all over CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS and PBS all weekend long and was the only thing talked about on the Sunday morning shows.</S


11 posted on 06/05/2007 12:06:23 AM PDT by fella ( newspapers used habitually to poison the public opinion)
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To: dennisw

Thank you, Sen. Sessions and his staff. Smartest people in the Senate.


12 posted on 06/05/2007 12:10:03 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: dennisw
Comprehensively Bad
Faux immigration reform.


By John Fonte

Deputy White House chief of staff, Joel Kaplan, a key negotiator in the Senate immigration bill, told the Washington Post that there are “things in this bill that Republicans and conservatives have wanted for a long time.”

Did he have any of the following items in mind?

One-day amnesty: Once the bill is enacted illegal aliens can apply for and receive probationary legal status immediately. Criminal/terrorist background checks are required to be completed by the “end of the next business day.” Illegal Monday, legal Tuesday, now that’s almost instant amnesty.

Tax amnesty: Unlike last year’s Senate amnesty bill, which required the illegal immigrants to pay three of five years back taxes, this year’s bill does not require them to pay any back taxes. Senator Kennedy wanted them to pay some taxes, but the White House insisted upon a complete tax amnesty.

Faux enforcement “triggers”: The so-called “enforcement” measures do not require that the border be secure. They only require that a few thousand more Border Patrol agents be hired (not deployed); that about half (370 miles) of the already authorized 700 miles of border fence be built; and that a few other bureaucratic inputs are announced. Then DHS will authorize the second phase of the amnesty by awarding the Z visas. Can anyone imagine Michael Chertoff declaring that these phony “triggers” have not been met?

Weak employer verification: This is not the long-promised “tamper proof” identity for employment. No serious fingerprint digital system is required, massive fraud will continue.

No exit system for guest workers: The guest workers are supposed to be “temporary” and required to eventually leave. But there is no way to enforce their leaving because there is still no Entry-Exit system in place.

Trust criminal gang members: As former Ashcroft deputy Kris Kobach notes there are more than 30,000 illegal immigrant gang members “trafficking in drugs, arms, and people.” They get a Z (amnesty) Visa if they simply sign a “renunciation of gang affiliation.” I guess the Senate-administration “negotiators” trust these M-13 guys.

“Section 136: Nothing in this section may be construed to provide additional authority to any State or local entity to enforce Federal immigration laws.” Why not? The illegal aliens who were part of the Fort Dix terrorist conspiracy were stopped by local law enforcement 56 times but their immigration status was never checked. This bill does nothing to ensure cooperation between local and federal officials in combating terrorism.

No real merit or skills-based (point) system instead current extended family chain migration is accelerated: The chain migration of extended family members will continue and be greatly expanded for the next eight years and only then would a skills-based merit (points) system supposedly go into effect. That is, if you really believe that after eight years a skills system would be adopted against strong business and liberal opposition.

Costs over $2 Trillion: Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation has estimated that the costs to American taxpayers for low-skilled immigrant households is $19, 588 per household, per year. The lifetime costs for the Senate amnesty are estimated to be over 2 trillion dollars.

Okay, maybe Kaplan was not referring to any of the above. Perhaps he meant that the Senate bill has begun a serious effort at assimilation, which many of us “have wanted for a long time.” After all, the White House press office trumpeted, “Strengthening the Assimilation of Immigrants.”

Title VII: Section 707 spells out the details. The term “assimilation” disappears; the concept of “Americanization” never appears; and the Euro-speak weasel word “integration” enters the text. Thus, 100 million federal dollars will be given to states and cities to award grants to “nonprofit organizations with experience working with immigrant communities” for “effective integration of immigrants into American society.”

In plain language this means that the State of Illinois’s Office of New Americans funnels federal funds to groups like La Raza and MALDEF. The type of “integration” that the new citizens will be learning can be gleaned from remarks of Jose Luis Gutierrez, the head of the Illinois Office of New Americans as reported in the Chicago Tribune April 6, 2007.

“The nation-state concept is changing. You don't have to say, `I am Mexican,' or, `I am American.' You can be a good Mexican citizen and a good American citizen and not have that be a conflict of interest. Sovereignty is flexible.”

Gutierrez is a dual citizen who is actively involved in Mexican politics. He votes in both the US and Mexico and is active in political campaigns in both nations. His political allegiance is clearly divided. He will not choose the United States over Mexico. Remember this is the guy in charge of assimilation; sorry, I mean “integration.” In short, the Senate bill can’t even get assimilation right.

There is almost nothing in this bill that “Republicans and conservatives,” Democrats and liberals, or Americans of any political persuasion “have wanted for a long time.” What the American people have “wanted for a long time” in the five and half years since 9/11 is for the Bush administration to fulfill its constitutional responsibility to “provide for the common defense” by securing the borders and interior of the United States of America — in this solemn duty the administration has failed miserably.

— John Fonte is a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute.

13 posted on 06/05/2007 12:12:50 AM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Since the govt won’t, we have to. Gonna?


14 posted on 06/05/2007 12:18:03 AM PDT by Sir Clean Plate Club (Gore feels things are getting warmer because he is on his way to Hell)
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To: dennisw

Bookmark

and BTTT

This amnesty must be stopped


15 posted on 06/05/2007 12:20:57 AM PDT by Dov in Houston
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To: dennisw

From what I understand, Sessions will be on CSpan tomorrow. We need to call every number possible this week.


16 posted on 06/05/2007 12:27:57 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: dennisw

And then there’s this:

Immigration Bill Could Outlaw Gun Shops
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1838810/posts


17 posted on 06/05/2007 12:28:07 AM PDT by quietolong
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To: dennisw

Thanks, Dennis and to Senator Sessions for providing these. I didn’t like the immigration bill to start with, but the more I read, the angrier I get. And it takes a lot to get me angry.

I think we have a right to know why the Republican leadership is pushing this bill so hard. It seems to violate every conservative principle we stand for and debases American citizenship. If it is as simple as big business wants a flow of cheap labor, I can be in favor of increased legal immigration, but to allow people who cheated the system to get away scot-free and reward them with all the benefits of the legal is a travesty of justice.


18 posted on 06/05/2007 12:40:51 AM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"--Ayn Rand)
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To: texastoo
I haven’t found one single thing in this bill that isn’t a “shell of what it should be”. It seems as if EVERY provision has some HUGE loophole. This is one of the worst pieces of of legislation ever introduced in the Senate. (Except maybe for the Dem push to de-fund the War on Terror. That was a real clinker too!)
19 posted on 06/05/2007 12:58:56 AM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: singfreedom
The following statement was at the end of the article. I am going to call tomorrow and find out if there are more loopholes. Or maybe we can get a fax of the information.

I am really curious about the healthcare personnel as part of the bill mentioned lowering the barriers for employment. As things stand now the Mexicans can't pass our state boards like all the other countries have to such as India, Chili, Canada, etc. If they lower standards and go to universal healthcare, we are in a heap of trouble.

A full list of the 20 loopholes is attached. For more information, contact Stephen Boyd at (202) 224 – 4124.

20 posted on 06/05/2007 1:10:37 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: dennisw
I would remind Mr. Kaplan that the “administration” has lost its grip on the conservative pulse. The President’s popularity is a clear indication of this fact. The mere fact that the RNC’s donations from “small doners” is down 40% (although, God knows, the alternative is even worse), you would think, would give them some sort of clue.

They, stupidly and with reinforcement from the NYSlimes, still believe Republicans lost the last election because of the war in Iraq. I think “immigration” and “rampant spending” were the real reasons.

21 posted on 06/05/2007 1:12:50 AM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: dennisw
This is nauseating and infuriating. Can someone tell me again why we have spent a half a trillion dollars and lost 4,000 American soldiers to secure Iraq while having this horrow shoved down our throats?

BTW, has that quisling Bush shown his face in public since he called us anti-American fear-mongers? You would think if he just "misspoke" he would be rushing to the microphone to clarify himself to his former supporters.

22 posted on 06/05/2007 1:56:16 AM PDT by WannabeTurk
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To: WannabeTurk

horrow = horror


23 posted on 06/05/2007 1:57:08 AM PDT by WannabeTurk
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To: dennisw

Oh Shiite!

Why? Why is this getting rammed down our throats?

As soon as the current 20 million are legal, why would they continue working for slave wages? “Big business” who want low wages aren’t going to get them this way.

Why would they continue to work at all?


24 posted on 06/05/2007 2:06:27 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: dennisw

Bump!


25 posted on 06/05/2007 2:08:03 AM PDT by jer33 3
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To: dennisw
“Many of the loopholes are indicative of a desire not to have the system work.”
26 posted on 06/05/2007 2:12:51 AM PDT by Old 300
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To: dennisw
The contradictory provisions, deliberately impossible deadlines and funding for even more legal challenge procedures virtually guarantee a system that will collapse of its own weight. The goal of effectively open borders will be achieved while piously maintaining that the bill strengthens border controls.

The continued devaluation of US citizenship is also surreal. In many ways, being an illegal is more advantageous than being either a citizen or someone who has been trying to come into the US legally.

27 posted on 06/05/2007 2:29:22 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: dennisw

Kudos to Senator Sessions and his staff for actually reading the bill! I seriously doubt if McPain has done the same.


28 posted on 06/05/2007 2:31:19 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: dennisw

How nice Jeff Sessions did his homework on this bill, I am sure that what he says is accurate.


29 posted on 06/05/2007 2:34:28 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: dennisw

Interesting analysis.

I envision the bill in its entirety as one giant loophole.


30 posted on 06/05/2007 4:34:57 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: dennisw

BUMP!


31 posted on 06/05/2007 4:42:03 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A proud member of El Presidente's racist bigot vigilante league.)
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To: WannabeTurk

I agree with you. This whole thing is literally making me ill. We are in serious trouble if these senators think this is the best we can come up with.

Sending our family members to fight in Iraq, while here at home our own goverment is giving the country away. At the rate we’re going my kids have NO future, NONE. Absolutely sickening.

Build the fence, enforce the laws already on the books. The only bill they should be working on is one to get rid of the anchor babies. Thats it.


32 posted on 06/05/2007 4:53:23 AM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: dennisw

save


33 posted on 06/05/2007 5:16:32 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: dennisw

bttt


34 posted on 06/05/2007 5:17:20 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: dennisw

Don’t worry...We can keep this bumped!!!!!!


35 posted on 06/05/2007 5:18:57 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: spectre

The day begins.....


36 posted on 06/05/2007 5:20:48 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
How nice Jeff Sessions did his homework on this bill, I am sure that what he says is accurate

Lay out your refutations to the loopholes he's presented, point by point. Show us his inaccuracies.

37 posted on 06/05/2007 5:26:29 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A proud member of El Presidente's racist bigot vigilante league.)
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To: dennisw

Sessions is my senator...call yours today!!!


38 posted on 06/05/2007 5:27:57 AM PDT by blam
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To: Bahbah; Txsleuth; Rheo

fyi ping


39 posted on 06/05/2007 5:29:11 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: All

BTTT


40 posted on 06/05/2007 5:30:06 AM PDT by WannabeTurk
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To: TADSLOS
I took his post at face value...
..I don't think he's disputing Jeff Sessions.
41 posted on 06/05/2007 5:30:36 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: TADSLOS
(correction)

I take her post at face value.

42 posted on 06/05/2007 5:33:28 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Guenevere

bttt


43 posted on 06/05/2007 5:45:51 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: TADSLOS
TADSLOS wrote: Lay out your refutations to the loopholes he's presented, point by point. Show us his inaccuracies.

Easy there boy, I believe Jeff Sessions to be man of honor, and if he says those are the loopholes, I will take them at face value. I was not being sarcastic when I said "How nice Jeff Sessions did his homework on this bill, I am sure that what he says is accurate".

44 posted on 06/05/2007 5:46:56 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: Mo1

Thanks, Mo. Pulls it all together, doesn’t it.


45 posted on 06/05/2007 5:51:21 AM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: AmericanMade1776; Travis McGee; spectre; truthkeeper; Brad's Gramma; All
A former border patrol chief is on C-span right now!!

He says the amnesty bill is a complete travesty!!!

A must listen!!!!

46 posted on 06/05/2007 6:14:56 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: dennisw

bump


47 posted on 06/05/2007 6:15:02 AM PDT by jer33 3
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To: dennisw
Thanks for this one. I'm emailing it to every human being I know...ESPECIALLY the sheeples.
Hope everyone will do the same.
48 posted on 06/05/2007 6:18:00 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bttt


49 posted on 06/05/2007 6:24:23 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: dennisw

bump


50 posted on 06/05/2007 6:29:07 AM PDT by Christian4Bush ("Liberals always feel your pain. Unless of course, they caused it. - Dennis Miller)
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