Immigration bill: Go ahead--break the law! Who cares?

Renew America ^ | June 4, 2007 | Wes Vernon

[Huck]

Ya mean there’s a risk of getting caught? Gosh, thanks for the insight. Never woulda figgered.

[goodnesswins]

There’s gonna be a lotta “law breakin’” if this bill passes.....Congress will have made lawlessness the law. Why should I be honest on my tax return? Why should I follow any laws at all? The future could get very “interesting.”

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Have any of you read the Congressional Budget Office Cost Estimate, yet?

I posted it on the live debate thread but I don't think anyones at home there. If anyone's interested I'll post it here as well.

[fr_freak]

My point is that simply complaining about "lawbreaking" is pointless. Everyone breaks laws. The problem with illegal immigration isn't that it's illegal. The problem is that it's unregulated.

No, there is a big difference here. Everyone breaks laws in the sense that many of us drive without seatbelts, exceed the speed limit, drink when we're underage, perhaps enjoy a little contraband now and then, but this is the first instance where the government, normally charged with enforcing the laws, is actually rewarding and encouraging the breaking of its own laws. Our government is now committing conspiracy to violate its own laws (which are actually OUR laws). Imagine a cop not only overlooking your driving 100mph down a residential street, but actually paying you to do it.

[nyconse]

Well a person who murders someone could say he didn’t agree with the law against murder...come on. Civilized societies have rules and laws that prevent chaos. If you don’t approve of a law work to end it.

[dragnet2]

If 12 million people refused to pay their taxes, the IRS couldn't possibly do anything about it, could it? After all, how could the IRS possibly round up 12 million people who only broke one single law

Imagine if 50 million Americans decided not to pay taxes. I guess it wouldn't be practical to round up 50 million people. Like the leftist say, it would just be impossible and cause way too much anger.

[Mugwump]

“F the law.

And that is the attitudes they are instilling in us.
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It started for me with seatbelts.

DISCLAIMER: I am not here to argue about whether or not seatbelts are a good idea, or that the “social cost of making bad decisions” requires the law.
PLEASE RE-READ DISCLAIMER

Now then: The Kalifornia state legislature once swore six ways from Sunday that they would NEVER, EVER make not wearing a seatbelts a “primary offense.”

As I recall they did just that in less than five years, and now on every idle freeway sign are the words

“CLICK IT OR TICKET”

Just another way for the government to shove it in your face. Folks, we’re playing a game where the rules change as you go along, and ignorance isn’t an excuse.

Ronald Reagan once joked that the most frightening thing an
American could hear is “I’m from the government and I’m here to help”

That’s changed, now. The quote should be “I’m from the government, and I’m here to show you who’s boss.”

Ya gets so ya don’t give a rat’s patootie about nuttin.

[LaineyDee]

If 12 million people refused to pay their taxes, the IRS couldn't possibly do anything about it, could it?

My ex and I forgot to file our taxes one year (back in the 80's) as we were separated, moving and what not. It was a case of "he thought I filed and I thought he did". In the meantime, we got back together and moved out of state for a new job, when his parents called and said 2 IRS agents had come to their house looking for us. It had only been 10 months late...not 10 years! Good grief. They can find a gnat on a horsefly if they want to.

[Phantom Patriot]

I am sorry to say that I don’t think it matters at all how many calls they receive. I firmly believe they will put on a show to make the public think there is a strong debate. And as they have done before, will pass this legislation anyway because it’s in the best interest of the Country. Specifically the elected officials looking for return votes
as payback for their favoritism. Both parties looking for the same end result.

You know they say it is impossible to deport them all. Well, I’m sure someone said the same thing about going to the moon too, but hey we did it.

They have all violated the oath of office. And they don’t care.

[SQUID]

now that is an excellent point.

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I am sorry to say that I don’t think it matters at all how many calls they receive. I firmly believe they will put on a show to make the public think there is a strong debate. And as they have done before, will pass this legislation anyway because it’s in the best interest of the Country. Specifically the elected officials looking for return votes

I have to agree with you on that. This bill will be passed no matter how we feel about it. This week, next week or the week after that, but it will be passed.

The dye has been cast!

The only question that remains is 'what are we going to do about it?'

[Apple Blossom]

Should I start with the 800 number in post #1?

[Phantom Patriot]

Imagine if 50 million Americans decided not to pay taxes. I guess it wouldn’t be practical to round up 50 million people. Like the leftist say, it would just be impossible and cause way too much anger.

Actually, short of a revolution that might be the only way to get the politicians attention.

[Phantom Patriot]

The only question that remains is ‘what are we going to do about it?’

I have some suggestions. But, they could only be shared in Executive session with only true patriots.

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Understood.

[bmwcyle]

No dear your husband told you to call days ago. Why start now?

[NormsRevenge]

Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., left, and Janet Murguia from the National Council of La Raza, take part in a news conference on immigration reform, Tuesday, June 5, 2007, on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

[penowa]

Hey Vigilanteman!

I suspect Vincente Fox has a much better chance of being Hillary's successor than Jeb Bush does.