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Surveillance Video Shows Missing Kansas Teen Being Forced Into Car
Fox News ^ | 06-05-2007

Posted on 06/05/2007 11:05:28 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh

OVERLAND PARK, Kan. — A $10,000 reward has been offered for information leading to the safe return of 18-year-old Kelsey Smith, who was forced into her car at a Target store on Saturday.

"Every indication is, it’s been an abduction," Overland Park Police Chief John Douglas told FOX News on Tuesday. "So far, our best information is coming from the surveillance video."

Police viewed the footage Monday. The video shows Smith, of Overland Park, Kan., leaving the store around 7:10 p.m. She had put pac

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The video that was taken from the Target store is not bad- I hope and pray they find her soon.

1 posted on 06/05/2007 11:05:30 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: Bladerunnuh

Self defense rule #1: Never ever let anyone force you into a car. Never. Do whatever you need to do to avoid getting in. Scream. Fight. Kick. Yell. Cry. Plead. But don’t ever get in the car. Getting in the car is (in most cases) a death sentence.


2 posted on 06/05/2007 11:07:31 AM PDT by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: Bladerunnuh
So sad, not feeling good about this.

Had someone at my door last night passing out flyers.

Praying much.

3 posted on 06/05/2007 11:07:56 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here... move on.)
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To: rintense

The car was found across the street. There was a vehicle switch. Could have/probably was unconscious in minutes.


4 posted on 06/05/2007 11:10:21 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here... move on.)
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To: Bladerunnuh

This is a nice area of town but no where is safe from psychos.


5 posted on 06/05/2007 11:12:31 AM PDT by badpacifist (Touching the portal of infinite knowledge right now!)
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To: rintense
Self defense rule #1: Never ever let anyone force you into a car. Never. Do whatever you need to do to avoid getting in. Scream. Fight. Kick. Yell. Cry. Plead. But don’t ever get in the car. Getting in the car is (in most cases) a death sentence.

Very good advice.

Bad guys plan on you doing what they say. Don't submit to their plans.

6 posted on 06/05/2007 11:12:33 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: TChris

Exactly. Chances are, if things don’t go according to their plans, they will panic. It’s all about control and fear. If you keep in control, both mentally and physically, you have the upper hand. Some also believe that if you humanize yourself- tell them your name, details about you and your family, the attacker will also humanize you- and think twice.


7 posted on 06/05/2007 11:14:42 AM PDT by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: Bladerunnuh

Prayers up for this beautiful young girl.

It’s not looking good. Police say they may have a good image of the suspect by this evening. They had to enhance the security tapes.


8 posted on 06/05/2007 11:16:00 AM PDT by Palladin (NO Shamnesty!!!)
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To: badpacifist
This is a nice area of town but no where is safe from psychos.

Yeah, that’s what makes it so scary, it’s my part of town. I gave my daughters another fatherly talk last night. My 20 year old gives the, “it can’t happen to me” look.

*sigh*

9 posted on 06/05/2007 11:16:57 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here... move on.)
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To: rintense

Yep. Better to be killed at the outset while fighting for one’s life than to die like a helpless animal later.


10 posted on 06/05/2007 11:18:26 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Palladin

-in the meantime he is already on the run.


11 posted on 06/05/2007 11:18:47 AM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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To: Palladin

The person wanted for questioning

12 posted on 06/05/2007 11:19:51 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: Lurking in Kansas

Same with my 20 year old daughter. She does everthing exactly backwards in reference to her own safety............I don’t think I was that stupid when I was 20.......of course I was in the Marine Corps and a Guy..........


13 posted on 06/05/2007 11:20:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: Verloona Ti

Enhancements of that tape should be fairly quick and easy for the FBI..........


14 posted on 06/05/2007 11:22:30 AM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: B-Chan
Yep. Better to be killed at the outset while fighting for one’s life than to die like a helpless animal later.

More importantly, there's a far better chance of getting help early on, while still in a public place than in an evil person's choice of location.

Mark

15 posted on 06/05/2007 11:22:45 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

I became a member today here to try and get the word out. I posted to Drudge and others and so far Fox is the only big network to mention it. I hope there’s still time for her. People need to see her face and the face of the suspect quick!


16 posted on 06/05/2007 11:22:56 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: Bladerunnuh

Welcome to FR.


17 posted on 06/05/2007 11:29:37 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: Bladerunnuh

We have a lot of members in your area. It was a good idea to come here to post.

She may be injured but alive at this guy’s apartment.

Good luck and Godspeed to the searchers!


18 posted on 06/05/2007 11:31:18 AM PDT by Palladin (NO Shamnesty!!!)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

keep us posted with any local news if you would...thx


19 posted on 06/05/2007 11:32:28 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Red Badger

I did many stupid things as a teenager...like hitchhiking at night ....I would go beserk if my 22 yro did that stuff..


20 posted on 06/05/2007 11:34:09 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
I did many stupid things as a teenager...

Same here, but that was 40 years ago for me, LOL. It is a different, different world today. So sad.

21 posted on 06/05/2007 11:42:23 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here... move on.)
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To: Bladerunnuh
I became a member today here to try and get the word out.

Good ideal. I'll keep bumping the thread to the top...

Welcome to FR. I'm in Jo Co too.

22 posted on 06/05/2007 11:44:06 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here... move on.)
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To: Bladerunnuh

I added Kansas and Missouri to the Topics so that FReepers in that area would be more likely to spot the story.


23 posted on 06/05/2007 11:47:34 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Overtaxed; osagebowman

Ping.


24 posted on 06/05/2007 11:53:07 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: Lurking in Kansas
My 20 year old gives the, “it can’t happen to me” look.

Does she carry? That can sure reduce the chances of a perp getting his way. Most of them confidently assume that an attractive young woman is unarmed and act accordingly.

25 posted on 06/05/2007 11:59:22 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Lurking in Kansas

Wow, all you guys are great. I think some of the news agencies wait to see if family or friends aren’t involved in a spat before they print things, but in this case, I think it’s obvious she has met with foul play.


26 posted on 06/05/2007 12:00:55 PM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: rintense

Good advice. If you are going to die, die before you get in the car.


27 posted on 06/05/2007 12:01:36 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

It’s very simple, really. If you know you are in a life-threatening situation, you do whatever it take to try and save yourself.


28 posted on 06/05/2007 12:07:03 PM PDT by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: Bladerunnuh
She spoke to her mom from inside the Target at 6:57 p.m. She and her boyfriend, who was at her house waiting for her when she didn't show up, had planned to attend a pool party and then go to dinner to celebrate their six-month anniversary. Smith’s sister told FOX News that her boyfriend planned on giving a promise ring to her.

Coincidence that she was abducted just before this? Probably, but I sure hope they're tracking down former boyfriends and wannabe boyfriends who might have been in a position to know her current boyfriend's plans for the evening, and been insanely jealous enough to abduct her to stop it.

29 posted on 06/05/2007 12:07:10 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Bladerunnuh

Family/friends and foul play are often one and the same thing in these cases.


30 posted on 06/05/2007 12:08:19 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Bladerunnuh

bump


31 posted on 06/05/2007 12:19:04 PM PDT by lowbridge ("The mainstream media IS the Democratic Party." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: B-Chan

“Yep. Better to be killed at the outset while fighting for one’s life than to die like a helpless animal later.”

Absolutely right and I’ve drummed this into my kids heads. 4 of my 5 kids are black belts in taekwondo (the 5th is too young but she’s in training). I told them to fight to the death, if necessary, before they get pushed into a car because whatever is waiting for them at the end of the car ride will be much, much worse.


32 posted on 06/05/2007 12:30:24 PM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Bladerunnuh

I hate to say it but something very similar to this happened in Virginia not that long ago and it didn’t turn well. A girl was abducted outside a busy ball in broad daylight. They later found her body but also found the perp. Since, it was Virginia, perp will probably be executed. Same thing happened to that young girl in Minnesota a couple of years ago. Malls are dangerous! It is hard to see between cars in the lot — even in daylight. I always take a good look around while I’m getting into mine and I keep a club handy.


33 posted on 06/05/2007 12:32:14 PM PDT by New Girl
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To: Verloona Ti

Authorities say this young man, according to Fox news, came out about the same time as the victim and they think he might have seen what happened.


34 posted on 06/05/2007 12:32:25 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Bladerunnuh

35 posted on 06/05/2007 12:39:16 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: hershey

here’s my question. They say she was “pushed into the car.” And then they show this young man walking out of the Target. So did he do the pushing? I wonder why the police didn’t make that clearer.


36 posted on 06/05/2007 12:39:19 PM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: Bladerunnuh

Let’s all make sure we preserve the “free speech rights” of pornographers!

/sarcasm

(OK, libertarian flamers, reply at will.)


37 posted on 06/05/2007 12:40:50 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: rintense
Self defense rule #1: Never ever let anyone force you into a car. Never. Do whatever you need to do to avoid getting in. Scream. Fight. Kick. Yell. Cry. Plead. But don’t ever get in the car. Getting in the car is (in most cases) a death sentence.

READ! LEARN! REPEAT! READ! LEARN! REPEAT! READ! LEARN! REPEAT!

38 posted on 06/05/2007 12:41:19 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (Nosotros no hablamos espaņol.)
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To: rintense
Self defense rule #1: Never ever let anyone force you into a car. Never. Do whatever you need to do to avoid getting in. Scream. Fight. Kick. Yell. Cry. Plead. But don’t ever get in the car. Getting in the car is (in most cases) a death sentence.

I have always stressed this with my daughters. It's better to be left bleeding and dying in a public parking lot rather than be abducted to be raped and/or tortured and left bleeding and dying in a remote location. First, if it's your car that you are being forced into, toss your keys as far away from the car as you can and then scream, run, kick and claw. Fight with every ounce of strength you can muster.

39 posted on 06/05/2007 12:50:29 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Bladerunnuh

I can hear the excuses now when they find the person responsible for this. He was abused when he was younger. He had a horrible childhood. He didn’t get a BMW at his sweet 16 birthday party. He was high on drugs. The list goes on.


40 posted on 06/05/2007 1:00:07 PM PDT by hodaka (')
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To: rintense

Yep.


41 posted on 06/05/2007 1:00:51 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Verloona Ti

I’ll be surprised if they don’t find this guy in the next 24 hours, if not sooner. Somebody saw the news, saw the video, and knows who it is.


42 posted on 06/05/2007 1:01:55 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Elyse
You have to stress that leaving with someone is a trip to Crime Scene #2.

Not too many victims walk away from #2.

43 posted on 06/05/2007 1:03:20 PM PDT by Deguello
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To: Badeye
kansas bump

I’ll be surprised if they don’t find this guy in the next 24 hours, if not sooner. Somebody saw the news, saw the video, and knows who it is.

I pray you're correct. It is getting a lot of local coverage here in Kansas City area. Like I stated previously, this is in my neighborhood...

44 posted on 06/05/2007 1:24:36 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here... move on.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas

‘I pray you’re correct. It is getting a lot of local coverage here in Kansas City area. Like I stated previously, this is in my neighborhood...’

I missed your post to that effect. Whenever something like this happens here the local news outlets go all out trying to help.


45 posted on 06/05/2007 1:27:59 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: unspun

Libertarians don’t condone abductions for any purpose. There are adult men and women who freely choose to participate in pornographic films and photos, and in prostitution, and they should be free to do that (and required to bear the burden of any negative consequences of their actions). That has nothing to do with abductions or coercions, which are obviously the antithesis of liberty.


46 posted on 06/05/2007 1:29:01 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Lurking in Kansas
My 20 year old gives the, “it can’t happen to me” look.

*sigh*

I hear ya. My 18 yo blond and blue daughter is the same.

47 posted on 06/05/2007 1:31:41 PM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: Verloona Ti; Darksheare
It's Darks.

(It's always his fault)...

48 posted on 06/05/2007 1:33:10 PM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: Bladerunnuh

Welcome to FR. I think you might like it here, (we did warn you it’s addictive)...


49 posted on 06/05/2007 1:34:48 PM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: Bladerunnuh

Per the article you posted: “Surveillance video of this individual shows a male in his 20s, with closely cropped dark hair and facial hair on his chin. He was wearing black shorts, a white T-shirt, black Converse sneakers and what appeared to be a long, gold necklace. The man who rushed toward Smith in the surveillance video is wearing similar clothing.” Two pieces of video footage: one showing someone’s face pretty clearly, the other not showing a face, but right around the same time and similar enough in size and dress that it could easily be the same person.

Honestly, if the man whose face is shown in that video hasn’t turned himself in to police by now to clear himself, he’s almost certainly the perp. Since the story is apprently getting wall to wall media coverage in the local area, it’s really implausible that the guy whose face is shown doesn’t know that he’s being sought by police.


50 posted on 06/05/2007 1:37:09 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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