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Ex-Police Officer Helps Subdue Two Men Onboard NWA Flight
Aero-News.net ^ | 06/05/2007 | www.nwa.com

Posted on 06/06/2007 10:23:34 AM PDT by Jeff Blogworthy

Suspects Began Screaming, Rolling In Aisle

What, exactly, happened onboard a recent Northwest Airlines flight from Minneapolis to Boston? That's the question federal investigators are now contemplating, while a former police officer is being called a hero for his role in subduing two passengers.

Boston's WBZ-TV reports Bob Hayden, a retired 28-year veteran police officer and former Lawrence, MA police chief, was a passenger on Northwest Flight 720 this weekend. Hayden says that even before the plane took off, one man started to act strangely -- pacing up and down the aisle, apparently aggravated. A flight attendant forced the man into his seat after he refused to heed the crew's requests to sit down.

After the plane took off, Hayden says the same man began screaming, before falling into the aisle. At first, Hayden says he thought the man was having a heart attack -- but when another man also started acting strangely, pulling luggage out of the overhead bin, it became clear to him something else was going on.

"He jumped out of his chair, laid on the floor, and started thrashing his legs and screaming," Hayden said. "People were nervous. The lady in front of me actually started to cry."

Flight attendants once again helped the screaming man back into his seat... but the passenger continued to yell throughout the rest of the flight. And when the plane's pilot announced the initial descent into Boston, things took yet another suspicious turn.

"They jumped out of their seats again, like something out of "The Manchurian Candidate, and did they're rolling on the floor, and yelling," Hayden said.

With the help of an ex-Marine onboard the flight, Hayden worked to subdue the men.

"We forced one into his seat, and the one on the ground, I flipped him over and landed him on his stomach," Hayden said. The two then buckled both men into their seats, and stood guard over them until the plane arrived at the gate.

Officials then took the men away for questioning, and for psychiatric evaluations. They are not facing charges at this time.

Hayden says he suspects the event was staged. For what reason, however, isn't clear.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; bobhayden; exmarine; flight720; itsthebaptistsagain; leo; marine; nwa; thosedarnbaptists
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1 posted on 06/06/2007 10:23:36 AM PDT by Jeff Blogworthy
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Any identification of the whackjobs yet?


2 posted on 06/06/2007 10:25:39 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Don't mistake timid driving for defensive driving.)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Baptists?


3 posted on 06/06/2007 10:25:55 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Hero BUMP!


4 posted on 06/06/2007 10:26:05 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Why did the plane even take off if they were acting so strange?


5 posted on 06/06/2007 10:26:49 AM PDT by squidward
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To: Jeff Blogworthy
"They jumped out of their seats again, like something out of "The Manchurian Candidate, and did they're rolling on the floor, and yelling," Hayden said.

Must be those danged holy roller Christians...< /profiling>

6 posted on 06/06/2007 10:27:00 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Jeff Blogworthy
Rush also mentioned that the younger men on the plane "averted their eyes" to avoid being asked to assist.

Congratulations liberals, feminists, & dhimmocrats; you've totally wussified the American Male.

7 posted on 06/06/2007 10:27:02 AM PDT by kromike
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To: Hegemony Cricket

Filipinos: “According to my interview with Hayden, the two, South East Asian men — acting in consort — were suspicious from the get go. “Before the flight took off, the flight attendants had to repeatedly tell the men to get in their seats.” The plane took off. Immediately after the Captain made the first announcement, Hayden told me that, “like clockwork, the first [SE Asian] guy got out of his seat and laid on the floor and started yelling.”
http://www.theaviationnation.com/2007/06/05/what-happened-on-northwest-flight-720/


8 posted on 06/06/2007 10:28:38 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Stop the ethnic cleansing of American citizens in the SW. Save America, Congress!)
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To: rocksblues

bfl


9 posted on 06/06/2007 10:29:47 AM PDT by rocksblues
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To: kromike
"Rush also mentioned that the younger men on the plane "averted their eyes" to avoid being asked to assist."

It won't be too much longer and the left will have us back to September 10th.

10 posted on 06/06/2007 10:30:26 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy
More on this in another FR post here (follow off-site link for video): http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1845161/posts
11 posted on 06/06/2007 10:31:05 AM PDT by Jeff Blogworthy (War on Christianity equals war on America)
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

This comment is interesting:

>>>Hayden says he suspects the event was staged. For what reason, however, isn’t clear.<<<


12 posted on 06/06/2007 10:31:07 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: PghBaldy

Moros?


13 posted on 06/06/2007 10:31:10 AM PDT by steve8714 ("A man needs a maid", my ass.)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

This leaves many questions unanswered. How old were these men?|How were they dressed?| Were they swedish-’looking, or not?| Did they sp=eak with a swedish accent?| or not?| Did they have beards?| What kind of luggage did they have?| I surp=rised they weren-’t characterized as _”youths._”


14 posted on 06/06/2007 10:32:28 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They've screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Not even Calvinists are this bizarre. As your post implies, I suspect mohammadans.


15 posted on 06/06/2007 10:33:23 AM PDT by Petronski (imwithfred.com)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

I saw the interview with the retired cop on Fox News awhile ago. Two statements stood out. He said, “They were not of the same ethnicity as he”. And...”One lady on the plane asked him if he heard what the one guy said while throwing his fit...and when he said no.....she related he yelled ALL OF YOUR LIVES WILL CHANGE TODAY”.


16 posted on 06/06/2007 10:39:57 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Petronski

They don’t make them like Hayden anymore. The new Lawrence Police Chief would have arrested Hayden.


17 posted on 06/06/2007 10:40:42 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Petronski

You read my mind!

:)


18 posted on 06/06/2007 10:40:54 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Sounds like their goal was to distract the passengers while someone else did something. There is little doubt that they were colluding. I would examine tapes of the parking garage area and see if they arrived together and who else was with them.


19 posted on 06/06/2007 10:41:11 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: LaineyDee

Well, the lives of all the people on the plane did change just a tiny bit.


20 posted on 06/06/2007 10:42:46 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Sounds like their goal was to distract the passengers while someone else did something. There is little doubt that they were colluding. I would examine tapes of the parking garage area and see if they arrived together and who else was with them.

That's what the retired cop thought as well. As for looking at tapes and their backgrounds, you can bet on that.

21 posted on 06/06/2007 10:47:00 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

A test to determine readiness of air marshals and other would be heroes.


22 posted on 06/06/2007 10:47:02 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: PghBaldy

Thanks - I thought at first they might have been Shakers...


23 posted on 06/06/2007 10:48:14 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Don't mistake timid driving for defensive driving.)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy
A flight attendant forced the man into his seat ...

For anybody who hasn't flown Northwest, think East German swimming team when envisioning their flight attendants.

24 posted on 06/06/2007 10:49:26 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Well, the lives of all the people on the plane did change just a tiny bit.

I would imagine so! I can't believe the younger guys didn't help at all. If I thought I might die....I sure wouldn't sit around to do it with my hands folded in my lap!

25 posted on 06/06/2007 10:49:55 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: PghBaldy

From your link - LOLOLOLOLOLOL!:

“Hayden’s wife of 42 years, Katie, who was also on the flight, was less impressed. Even as her husband struggled with the agitated passenger, she barely looked up from “The Richest Man in Babylon,” the book she was reading.

“The woman sitting in front of us was very upset and asked me how I could just sit there reading,” Katie Hayden said. “Bob’s been shot at. He’s been stabbed. He’s taken knives away. He knows how to handle those situations. I figured he would go up there and step on somebody’s neck, and that would be the end of it. I knew how that situation would end. I didn’t know how the book would end.”


26 posted on 06/06/2007 10:51:13 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Don't mistake timid driving for defensive driving.)
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To: kromike
Rush also mentioned that the younger men on the plane "averted their eyes" to avoid being asked to assist.

Maybe they were afraid they'd be sued by CAIR.
27 posted on 06/06/2007 10:53:15 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Scratch a RINO, and you'll find a global elitist beneath the surface.)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Sounds like another planned activity that is designed by the muzzies to erode our resistance to being PC and lead the way to an eventual successful muzzie attack on the USA.


28 posted on 06/06/2007 10:54:17 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

I want to know from LE and the airlines at what point does an elbow to a temple stop being criminal and start being hero behavior?

(Not knowing will NOT stop me from putting down an unruly passenger I determine to be a threat.)


29 posted on 06/06/2007 10:54:24 AM PDT by Sir Clean Plate Club (Gore feels things are getting warmer because he is on his way to Hell)
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To: kromike

“I had looked around the plane for help, and all the younger guys had averted their eyes. When I asked the guy next to me if he was up to it, all he said was, ‘Retired captain. USMC.’ I said, ‘You’ll do,’ “ Hayden recalled


30 posted on 06/06/2007 10:54:37 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

31 posted on 06/06/2007 10:58:11 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Dumpster Baby

He had the fish.


32 posted on 06/06/2007 11:00:40 AM PDT by yobid
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To: ScaniaBoy

Raised as a Baptist, I was thinking more in lines of Wiccan.


33 posted on 06/06/2007 11:00:57 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Last Dakotan

LOL. I recently flew on NWA. Yup


34 posted on 06/06/2007 11:06:45 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: ScaniaBoy

Weren’t white Christians......that would have made the headlines!


35 posted on 06/06/2007 11:12:28 AM PDT by newcthem (George Bush.......Making America Safer............FOR MEXICAN CRIMINALS!)
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To: ScaniaBoy
Baptists?

Naw. If they're rolling on the floor and doing a lot of yelling, they're Holy Rollers most likely. (flame suit on.)

36 posted on 06/06/2007 11:14:47 AM PDT by OB1kNOb ( KILL (the) BILL !! WHERE'S THE FENCE ? Vote Conservative. Vote Duncan Hunter - 2008)
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To: massgopguy

When I saw Hayden on tv yesterday I thought he looked familiar. He used to jog(shirtless) past my street a couple of times a week. He was in amazing shape and not someone you would want to mess with.


37 posted on 06/06/2007 11:20:16 AM PDT by surrey
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To: ScaniaBoy
Baptists?

No, they were Bapticostals. LOL!

38 posted on 06/06/2007 11:20:20 AM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Jeff Blogworthy
We have to keep retraining the MSM. It is Former Marine.

There is only one Ex-Marine, Murtha.

39 posted on 06/06/2007 11:35:43 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: PghBaldy
Filipinos:

I'm guessing from one of the southern islands.

40 posted on 06/06/2007 11:43:03 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Hegemony Cricket

A FOX interview with the retired ex-cop: Stated that the perps were “foreign” was the word used by the ex-cop.


41 posted on 06/06/2007 11:54:42 AM PDT by semaj (Just shoot the bastards! * Your results may vary. Void where prohibited.)
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To: Cold Heart

Did you feel safe? I would have!


42 posted on 06/06/2007 12:14:53 PM PDT by Don Carlos (No 8 Do)
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To: pfflier

Actually, I will give you an example of another “ex-marine”. I think he qualified as being worthless enough to give up his title.

I was going to post this as it’s own thread, but for now, I’ll just respond here.

Last Friday, my nephew and his fiancee, three weeks after burying their daughter (she was five months pregnant when she lost the child, and they had been engaged for 7 months, so it wasn’t shot-gun, it was they were just waiting until he was done with his advanced training for his NG post), were visiting a bar. They had decided to join some friends for some drinks, and when they got there, she caught the eye of the ex-marine.

He decided that my nephew wasn’t good enough for her. So, he went over and asked my soon-to-be niece to go home with him. Apparently, made some other rather crude remarks and made them both very uncomfortable. To show how the NG training helped him with discipline, my nephew and his fiancee decided to leave the bar. The ex-marine followed them into the parking lot, and when the ex-marine grabbed her by the arm, my nephew intervened. My nephew was sucker-punched and knocked to the ground. The ex-marine then grabbed my stb-niece by the throat and tried to remove her clothes. Apparently, he told her he was going to have her in the parking lot. My nephew got up again, and was hit in the head, knocked to the ground, and then, with steel-toed boots, was repeatedly kicked in the head until he was nearly broken. He spent two days in ICU. His skull is fractured, his eye-socket crushed, his jaw is shattered, and he still has boot-marks on his face.

THAT, by my definition, is an ex-marine. A jerk who would viciously attack and beat a National Guard member so that he could rape the NG member’s fiancee’ (she was ALSO in the guard, but had to be medically discharged when she shattered her leg in multiple fractures during training).

And if anyone disagrees that the monster described above is not an ex-marine, then they don’t understand what an honor it is to be one. I wasn’t medically capable of making it, but if I was, I’d have been in the marines.

Paul


43 posted on 06/06/2007 12:24:01 PM PDT by spacewarp (Gun control is a tight cluster grouping in the chest and one in the forehead.)
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To: Don Carlos

Yes I felt safe. I am one of those people that would have been standing on the guys neck.

I’m also very disgusted with those young “men” that averted their eyes.


44 posted on 06/06/2007 12:27:36 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

bttt


45 posted on 06/06/2007 12:29:22 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Cold Heart

“Men” like those mentioned will probably die needing a diaper change!


46 posted on 06/06/2007 2:42:59 PM PDT by Don Carlos (No 8 Do)
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To: PghBaldy
From your link:

Hayden, a 65-year-old former police commander, had enlisted a gray-haired gentleman sitting next to him to assist. The man turned out to be a former US Marine. "I had looked around the plane for help, and all the younger guys had averted their eyes. When I asked the guy next to me if he was up to it, all he said was, 'Retired captain. USMC.' I said, 'You'll do,' " Hayden recalled. "So, basically, a couple of grandfathers took care of the situation." We need to reopen enlistment to these guys.

THOSE are men.

47 posted on 06/06/2007 3:47:22 PM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: Hegemony Cricket; Blue Highway

BTTT


48 posted on 06/06/2007 7:02:01 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: pfflier
There is only one Ex-Marine, Murtha.

You've obviously forgotten about Garwood, Glenn, Lonetree, Oswald, Dennehy, Kovic, Dellums, Carville, Ritter, Massey, et al.

49 posted on 06/06/2007 8:41:05 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

THEY NEED TO BE PROSECUTED AND NEVER TO BE ABLE TO FLY AGAIN!! p.s......LOVED Hayden and his wife, Katie!


50 posted on 06/06/2007 8:43:34 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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