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Clinton: "Something Has to be Taken Away from Some People"
Townhall.com ^ | June 4, 2007 | Amanda Carpenter

Posted on 06/06/2007 12:41:35 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

During a nationally broadcast forum Monday evening on faith and politics Sen. Hillary Clinton (D.-N.Y.) attacked the free market and told listeners in that order to attain energy independence and provide universal health coverage, it would be necessary to “take away from some people.”

“An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said. “I mean, that is a fact. So what do we do? We have to build a political consensus. And that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground.”

She went on, “The same with energy. You know, we can’t keep talking about our dependence on foreign oil and the need to deal with global warming and the challenge that it poses to our climate and to God’s creation and just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.”

Clinton made these comments near the end of her allotted 15-minute portion of the event.

Clinton also said that “the adult society has failed” young people “who are tremendously influenced by the media culture and by the celebrity culture.”

“I think that we have failed them in our churches, our schools and our government,” she said. “And I certainly think the free market has failed. We’ve all failed.”

The New York senator said something similar to “taking things away from some people” at a June 2004 private fundraising event in San Francisco. There, Associated Press reporter Beth Fouhy wrote that Clinton told attendees Democrats should take money back from taxpayers who benefited from President Bush’s tax cuts.

Clinton told her donors, “We're not coming to you, many of whom are well enough off that actually the tax cuts may have helped you, and say 'we're going to give you more.' We're saying, 'you know what, for America to get back on track and be fiscally responsible, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.”

She added, “We’re going to take things away form you on behalf of the common good.”

On the campaign trail, each of the three leading Democrats running for their party’s nomination for President, Clinton, former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.), have said he or she would repeal the Bush tax cuts to help finance universal health care.

The June 4 event was hosted by Sojourners, a social justice movement for progressive Christians. Founder Jim Wallis is the author of “God’s Politics: Why the Right Gets It Wrong and the Left Doesn’t Get It.”

CNN’s Soledad O’Brien moderated the forum. It aired on that station Monday evening from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m.

Edwards and Obama also participated.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; barackobama; bush; candidates; churches; communism; economy; elections; energy; energyindependence; freemarkets; georgewbush; healthcare; hillary; hillarycare; hillaryclinton; johnedwards; liberalism; marxism; presidentbush; schools; socialism; taxcuts; taxes
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To: avacado

On the other hand, Bush did expand Medicare to include a drug benefit—an increase in redistributionism, albeit with some market forces in play, IIRC. Who’s to say the next Republican president won’t be similarly opportunistic. Mitt Romney, for example, helped to impose a statewide health insurance regime in Massachusetts.


101 posted on 06/06/2007 1:16:35 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Will I be suspended again for this remark?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I think it was Hillary who stated:

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".

But I could be mistaken of course. ;)

102 posted on 06/06/2007 1:16:36 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Kevmo
Why is this woman considered so scary to beat? She’s shooting herself in the foot.

Because, as things stand, somewhere around half of the 'voters' in this country will vote for her under ANY circumstances.

103 posted on 06/06/2007 1:16:57 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid...even by congressional standards.)
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To: MrB
All it takes is 50.01% of the voting population that believes this is the right course to put her into office.

With our electoral winner-take-all system it can take much less than 50%. All she has to do is barely win the states she won and completely lose the states she lost. The biggest 11 states for 271 electors, winning 50.1% in each, only represents 28% of the population.

104 posted on 06/06/2007 1:19:44 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: donnab
how about taking away the tax shelters that the very very rich like kennedy and kerry just to name two hide their money in to get out of taxes....and then tax them equitably along with the very rich and the rich and the not so rich.

Oh, you're in trouble now! (tee hee) To dare suggest that the elite give up what is rightfully theirs! The audacity! We all (extra sarcasm) know how much they do for us and how they deserve it and more, we need to work harder to give them more to work with. /sarc

They won't even address such a question, just talk to others about our question, about how we don't understand if we ask such a question. ;-)

Besides, if they don't call out Algore or Pelosi or Babs, etc., on their gross personal misuse of 'gas guzzling' SUV's and private jets and investment dollars, we can't expect them to be accountable for something that hits even closer, such as taxes.

105 posted on 06/06/2007 1:20:20 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
You make a point, but still, I don’t see the extreme in them that Hillary is suggesting. That lady truly wants Marxism. When she said that the oil companies make too much profit and when she is president that she’ll take those profits... I freaked. Profit is good. We are a free market. I think the Republicans do understand the free market, Hillary does not. That’s where the difference is.
106 posted on 06/06/2007 1:20:43 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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107 posted on 06/06/2007 1:20:47 PM PDT by rbosque (MSM = Miserable Socialist Morons.)
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Should I be donning my tinfoil hat? If this Commie shrew does get elected and starts messing with the free market I see shortages down the road. I worked supermarkets for years and all it takes is a couple of deliveries not arriving in a weeks time and it won’t take long for the shelves to start emptying. Didn’t her legislation “for the children” cause the flu shot shortage.
108 posted on 06/06/2007 1:21:38 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Liberals, A terrorists best friend!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said. “I mean, that is a fact. So what do we do? We have to build a political consensus. And that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground.”

A pretty pithy synopsis of socialism if you ask me.

109 posted on 06/06/2007 1:21:59 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one BYJ movie at a time!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Earth to Hillary!....Shove your socialism!


110 posted on 06/06/2007 1:27:49 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said. “I mean, that is a fact. So what do we do?"

We accept reality.

Some people can afford more than others. This is true of food, shelter, transportation, clothing, booze, fine Cuban cigars, or anything else you could imagine. Why should health care be any different?

Besides, the government cannot do any more than it already is doing to help the uninsured. All it can do is make sure that the insured die in larger numbers so there is no gap.

I really do believe that Hillary! Rodham (Clinton>'s plan eliminate the difference is just to kill more rich people.

111 posted on 06/06/2007 1:28:41 PM PDT by gridlock (Fred Dalton Thompson will be the Next President of the United States)
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To: stylecouncilor

Minimal makeoover to be sure...to the photographs that is.


112 posted on 06/06/2007 1:28:55 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

113 posted on 06/06/2007 1:33:43 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (I'm Fred, White and Blue!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Something has to be taken away from some people

That is irrational and evil you contemptable POS.

114 posted on 06/06/2007 1:33:52 PM PDT by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck.)
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To: Red Badger
Her “base” is eating this up!..............DUmmies.............

They will lick the boot on their neck if they think the other boot is on a conservative's neck.

115 posted on 06/06/2007 1:35:40 PM PDT by OSHA (Please, Fred, don't make me vote for Rudy.)
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To: OSHA

Leftists aren’t satisfied until everybody is equal......equally miserable, that is..........


116 posted on 06/06/2007 1:38:10 PM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: OSHA
They will lick the boot on their neck if they think the other boot is on a conservative's neck.

Oh, that's good. I'm going to steal that!

117 posted on 06/06/2007 1:41:02 PM PDT by gridlock (A Liberal will lick the boot on his neck if he thinks the other boot is on a Conservative's neck.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Want to know what and how much are Hillary and Warren Buffet going to lose. . .Algore? Kerry? Dianne Feinstein? Barbara Boxer? Mr. Hillary?


118 posted on 06/06/2007 1:44:54 PM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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To: rintense

Where have I heard that before? Oh RIGHT...Karl Marx


119 posted on 06/06/2007 1:45:17 PM PDT by CassieGOP
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To: Lurker

My faith in the American voter and the electoral system is vitually zero. Hillary is plenty electable with enough fraud.

That said, this election is the Democrat’s to lose - and they’re workin’ real hard on losin’ it.


120 posted on 06/06/2007 1:45:17 PM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Insane


121 posted on 06/06/2007 1:46:42 PM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Hilarya Rodamnevna Klintonova


122 posted on 06/06/2007 1:46:42 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: The Blitherer

“I wonder how many times you can use the word “failed” in one sentence?”

And her irritating, “You know...” ad nauseum.

Smartest women in the world? *SPIT*


123 posted on 06/06/2007 1:49:07 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“We’re going to take things away form you on behalf of the common good.” Repubs better have this lined up for campaign commercial. . .alongside of Fidel; showing what he took from his citizens; and with overlays of Hugu Chavez; saying much the same thing. . .they can show plug being pulled; literally on Venezuela TV station and the citizens, themselves.
124 posted on 06/06/2007 1:49:26 PM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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To: massgopguy
Who’s “we?

Maybe she's got a mouse in her pocket.

125 posted on 06/06/2007 1:49:40 PM PDT by woofer (Some strive to soar like an eagle, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines.)
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To: Red Badger

Sorry, but we are going to hear it more and more. There is a huge crowd out there who love hearing that the rich are going to get poorer and the poor are going to get richer, (without working for it, of course.) It is socialism at it’s best and that is the way this country has been indoctrinated for years, ever since Hillary marched in the 60’s.


126 posted on 06/06/2007 1:49:52 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

She should lead by example. She has at least 2 mansions and I heard building another one in the Bahamas (or Costa Rica..somewhere tropical). Her sad excuse for a husband rakes in megadough from his “speaking engagements” but yet boasts about the tax cuts he gets. No shame. They disgust me.


127 posted on 06/06/2007 1:50:08 PM PDT by noexcuses
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To: gridlock

Have at it! LOL


128 posted on 06/06/2007 1:51:46 PM PDT by OSHA (Please, Fred, don't make me vote for Rudy.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I have heard (with my own two ears- not from a friend of a friend) Hilliary talking about "the failure of this capitalist system of ours" (I am pretty certain that is an EXACT quote)

Does anyone know how to do a Nexus search to find the video of her saying that? It has to be like 10 years ago (at least)

129 posted on 06/06/2007 1:51:54 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

start taking stuff from that real life James Bond villain, Soros.


130 posted on 06/06/2007 1:52:03 PM PDT by isom35
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“We’re going to take things away form you on behalf of the common good.”

THIS MUST BE DRUMMED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN UTIL THE PEOPLE WAKE UP!.........

OK BTTT

131 posted on 06/06/2007 1:55:09 PM PDT by granite ("We dare not tempt them with weakness" - JFK)
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To: Red Badger
BUMP!
132 posted on 06/06/2007 1:55:49 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Certainly “the government” failed our children when the clinton’s were the government.

Oral sex is not sex and everyone does it.


133 posted on 06/06/2007 1:57:41 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ve been thinking about what Hillary means when she says that something must be taken away from some people. In regard to socialized health care, she means that those of us with good health insurance will have to give that up so that the uninsured and even the illegals can have comparable health insurance. Remember the mainstay of socialized healthcare is to delay and deny. Socialized medicine doesn’t work without at least a 90 day wait period for treatment. That way if the patient dies in the meantime, that’s one less patient to treat. Ask the people in Vermont or Canada. A nine month wait for back surgery, a three month wait for a broken hip, that’s what my sister-in-law in Vt experienced.


134 posted on 06/06/2007 1:58:38 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“I think that we have failed them in our churches, our schools and our government,” she said. “And I certainly think the free market has failed. We’ve all failed.”

Yeah, Hillary, we all know you've failed.
135 posted on 06/06/2007 1:59:20 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Let’s start with Teddy’s view of Nantucket Sound. He has virtually killed the Cape Wind Project would would erect 130 windmills in Nantucket Sound. This wind farm would provide three-fourths of the power needed by Cape Cod and nearby islands, which is now largely supplied by coal-fired plants.

Of course, with these Marxists, none of the sacrifices apply to them. Sacrifices only apply to the peons and those pesky capitalists.

136 posted on 06/06/2007 2:01:23 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“I think that we have failed them in our churches, our schools and our government,” she said. “And I certainly think the free market has failed. We’ve all failed.”

Memo To Hillary:

Who made you the judge of how good a job churches are doing?

Eternally,

God

137 posted on 06/06/2007 2:01:28 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: BeckB

Hahahaha, my mom used to say that to all 7 of us when we were kids! I just knew I needed to STFU or I was on my way to the middle of next week! :]


138 posted on 06/06/2007 2:05:22 PM PDT by 007girl
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To: Kevmo
My just-out-of-college brother in law is ignorant enough to vote for her. He thinks it’s all peace and love and sharing....doesn’t realize it’s socialism/communism. I tried to explain to him that this kind of gov’t/society never works, but he has been brainwashed by professors for the past 5 years, and of course he knows more than everyone else. Give him 10 years and he might start thinking for himself. (A la all college students/grads.) In the meantime, it’s the plethora of brainwashed younger people (under 30) who will support this mindset. Those who don’t know history are bound to repeat it.
139 posted on 06/06/2007 2:08:34 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (THOMPSON '08)
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To: stylecouncilor

LOL. That’s perfect.


140 posted on 06/06/2007 2:08:38 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said.

Related shocking news stories:

- People who plan for retirement have more money in later years than people who don't!
- People who have more money can eat at more expensive restaurants!
- People wearing the finest clothing are RICHER than those wearing Walmart duds!

141 posted on 06/06/2007 2:09:05 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"...and that means something has to be taken away from some people.”

(Raising hand) And who would get to decide which people have to lose what they own, Mrs. Clinton?

142 posted on 06/06/2007 2:11:26 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: MrB

I am looking forward to making rude jokes about the lady.

In any state suffering under anarchy, there is always an abundance of jokes which are quite illegal to tell.


143 posted on 06/06/2007 2:14:43 PM PDT by Sundog (It's a good day for a catharsis.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Because, as things stand, somewhere around half of the ‘voters’ in this country will vote for her under ANY circumstances.
***That’s what’s scary. It’s not Hildebeast. It’s the ignorance of the voting bloc that supports her.


144 posted on 06/06/2007 2:15:03 PM PDT by Kevmo (We need to get away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party ~Duncan Hunter)
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To: Yaelle

Her reply, “And your name is...”


145 posted on 06/06/2007 2:15:28 PM PDT by Sundog (It's a good day for a catharsis.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The most successful economy in 50 years or so and it’s somehow failed?

These socialists are beyond ridiculous.


146 posted on 06/06/2007 2:16:39 PM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

I became more conservative during my last year of college, and have become even more so since. I’ve never voted for a ‘Rat for anything, on any level.


147 posted on 06/06/2007 2:16:51 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

As much as I’d like to jump on the Hillary-is-a-communist bandwagon, I heard this exchange and what she was talking about was people giving up parts of their stance on the issues in order to find “common ground.” The part where she said “Something Has to be Taken Away from Some People” came as she was being hurried to end her comments. When I heard her say that I knew I’d see a story like this. I’m sure she really believes in taking things away (I remember the 2004 comment) but in this instance the headline is out of context with her comments.


148 posted on 06/06/2007 2:17:39 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Going to be lots of great ads if Hillary wins the Democrat nomination.


149 posted on 06/06/2007 2:19:17 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Kevmo
Because, as things stand, somewhere around half of the ‘voters’ in this country will vote for her under ANY circumstances. ***That’s what’s scary. It’s not Hildebeast. It’s the ignorance of the voting bloc that supports her.

Last poll I read said 53% of thepeople WILL NOT vote for her under any circumstances.

150 posted on 06/06/2007 2:20:51 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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