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Clinton: "Something Has to be Taken Away from Some People"
Townhall.com ^ | June 4, 2007 | Amanda Carpenter

Posted on 06/06/2007 12:41:35 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

During a nationally broadcast forum Monday evening on faith and politics Sen. Hillary Clinton (D.-N.Y.) attacked the free market and told listeners in that order to attain energy independence and provide universal health coverage, it would be necessary to “take away from some people.”

“An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said. “I mean, that is a fact. So what do we do? We have to build a political consensus. And that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground.”

She went on, “The same with energy. You know, we can’t keep talking about our dependence on foreign oil and the need to deal with global warming and the challenge that it poses to our climate and to God’s creation and just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.”

Clinton made these comments near the end of her allotted 15-minute portion of the event.

Clinton also said that “the adult society has failed” young people “who are tremendously influenced by the media culture and by the celebrity culture.”

“I think that we have failed them in our churches, our schools and our government,” she said. “And I certainly think the free market has failed. We’ve all failed.”

The New York senator said something similar to “taking things away from some people” at a June 2004 private fundraising event in San Francisco. There, Associated Press reporter Beth Fouhy wrote that Clinton told attendees Democrats should take money back from taxpayers who benefited from President Bush’s tax cuts.

Clinton told her donors, “We're not coming to you, many of whom are well enough off that actually the tax cuts may have helped you, and say 'we're going to give you more.' We're saying, 'you know what, for America to get back on track and be fiscally responsible, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.”

She added, “We’re going to take things away form you on behalf of the common good.”

On the campaign trail, each of the three leading Democrats running for their party’s nomination for President, Clinton, former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.), have said he or she would repeal the Bush tax cuts to help finance universal health care.

The June 4 event was hosted by Sojourners, a social justice movement for progressive Christians. Founder Jim Wallis is the author of “God’s Politics: Why the Right Gets It Wrong and the Left Doesn’t Get It.”

CNN’s Soledad O’Brien moderated the forum. It aired on that station Monday evening from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m.

Edwards and Obama also participated.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; barackobama; bush; candidates; churches; communism; economy; elections; energy; energyindependence; freemarkets; georgewbush; healthcare; hillary; hillarycare; hillaryclinton; johnedwards; liberalism; marxism; presidentbush; schools; socialism; taxcuts; taxes
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Now before everybody's head explodes, just remember, the Democratic and Republican candidates probably all believe this crap to some extent, with the possible exception of Ron Paul. It's just that Hillary is being so blatant about it.
1 posted on 06/06/2007 12:41:38 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I wonder how many times you can use the word “failed” in one sentence?


2 posted on 06/06/2007 12:43:01 PM PDT by The Blitherer (These are not dark days; these are great days - the greatest days our country has ever lived. -WSC)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
that means something has to be taken away from some people.”

So Edwards and Gore are going to lose their houses?
3 posted on 06/06/2007 12:44:00 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“We’re going to take things away form you on behalf of the common good.”

THIS MUST BE DRUMMED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN UTIL THE PEOPLE WAKE UP!.........

4 posted on 06/06/2007 12:44:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: The Blitherer

The failed, failed failure failed over the failed failure.


5 posted on 06/06/2007 12:44:11 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Will I be suspended again for this remark?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“I think that we have failed them in our churches, our schools and our government,” she said. “And I certainly think the free market has failed. We’ve all failed.”

I don't think this snake-oil selling socialist is going to get very far telling the nation that it has failed.

6 posted on 06/06/2007 12:44:12 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

B.S.


7 posted on 06/06/2007 12:44:47 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
We’re going to take things away form you on behalf of the common good.

Never ever forget this.

8 posted on 06/06/2007 12:45:07 PM PDT by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

9 posted on 06/06/2007 12:45:17 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Why is this woman considered so scary to beat? She’s shooting herself in the foot.


10 posted on 06/06/2007 12:45:21 PM PDT by Kevmo (We need to get away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party ~Duncan Hunter)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If she tries to take any more of what I have earned and saved then I will knock her into the middle of next week.


11 posted on 06/06/2007 12:45:52 PM PDT by BeckB
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Clinton told her donors, “We're not coming to you, many of whom are well enough off that actually the tax cuts may have helped you, and say 'we're going to give you more.' We're saying, 'you know what, for America to get back on track and be fiscally responsible, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.”

The arrogance is stunning! Not give it to you? It's our money bee - otch, not yours!

12 posted on 06/06/2007 12:46:05 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

how about taking away the tax shelters that the very very rich like kennedy and kerry just to name two hide their money in to get out of taxes....and then tax them equitably along with the very rich and the rich and the not so rich.
then start taking away the private jets that the tax payers pay for ...and the rental on the property that the clintons charge to the secret service for having to be there...then lets cut back the pensions that the congress receives and dole it out according to service just like in the real world. and and and maybe then we can cut back on their life long medical since most are rich enough to afford their own ....to me that would save enough money to offset the deficit.


13 posted on 06/06/2007 12:46:15 PM PDT by donnab
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Commie Whore!


14 posted on 06/06/2007 12:46:36 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Kevmo

Her “base” is eating this up!..............DUmmies.............


15 posted on 06/06/2007 12:46:59 PM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Well, stuff will have to be taken away from people, but not Hill and Bill, of course.


16 posted on 06/06/2007 12:47:05 PM PDT by hershey
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To: HEY4QDEMS

You can change the date now.........


17 posted on 06/06/2007 12:47:27 PM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"In a higher phase of Communist society, when the enslaving subordination of individuals in the division of labour has disappeared, and with it also the antagonism between mental and physical labour; when labour has become not only a means of living, but itself the first necessity of life; when, along with the all­round development of individuals, the productive forces too have grown, and all the springs of social wealth are flowing more freely - it is only at that stage that it will be possible to pass completely beyond the narrow horizon of bourgeois rights, and for society to inscribe on its banners: from each according to his ability; to each according to his needs!"
- Vladimir Illyich Lenin, "State and Revolution", 1918
18 posted on 06/06/2007 12:47:28 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What a communist.

Yeah, and you KNOW how well commie nations do and did. Yeah, the FREE market failed.

What a crock a’@#$!$@$!


19 posted on 06/06/2007 12:47:42 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Kevmo
Why is this woman considered so scary to beat?

We should be down on our knees praying that Hillary is the Dem nominee. She is absolutely the most beatable of the bunch.

Her negatives have never dropped below 40% and they are now nearly 50%.

She's unelectable and the DNC knows it.

L

20 posted on 06/06/2007 12:47:44 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said. “I mean, that is a fact.

Then where are the independent studies to prove it?

21 posted on 06/06/2007 12:47:54 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Red Badger

22 posted on 06/06/2007 12:47:54 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living insult to islam since 1959.)
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To: The Blitherer

“Something Has to be Taken Away from Some People”

OK. Let’s start with your senate seat, and your political career.


23 posted on 06/06/2007 12:48:00 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If we have failed all of these people, what makes Ms. Clinton think that she can save them(with our money)?...other than the fact that she’s a megalomaniac?

Sorry. I love that word.


24 posted on 06/06/2007 12:48:21 PM PDT by RexBeach (Americans never quit. -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

25 posted on 06/06/2007 12:48:39 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
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To: P-40

Those aren’t houses. Those are dachas.


26 posted on 06/06/2007 12:48:40 PM PDT by Virulas (I am the lion of the courtroom!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I don’t know see this? Seems Paul belives it too. Just does a better job of lying about it then the rest of the DC Old Boy’s club.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1845841/posts

What I cannot for understand is why NO one asks the obvious question?

Senator, why do we need “Universal Health Care Coverage”, why don’t you simply pass a law making the Govt Employees Health Plan available on a economic means tested bases to anyone?

27 posted on 06/06/2007 12:50:12 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: Kevmo

All it takes is 50.01% of the voting population that believes this is the right course to put her into office.


28 posted on 06/06/2007 12:50:36 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
“Something Has to be Taken Away from Some People”

OK. Let’s start with your senate seat, and your political career.

I would love to add a suggestion or two to that, but I understand the Secret Service has a nasty habit of showing up at suppertime, and we are having steak tonight.

29 posted on 06/06/2007 12:51:18 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Liberal Trivia IQ test question:

Who said this, “We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”

a. Karl Marx
b. Vladimir Lenin
c. Robert Mugabe
d. Fidel Castro
e. Hugo Chavez
f. Hillary Clinton
g. All of the Above...........


30 posted on 06/06/2007 12:51:40 PM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: Red Badger

Yeah, it’s becoming a mantra for her.


31 posted on 06/06/2007 12:51:45 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said. “I mean, that is a fact.

LIAR!!!!!!!

32 posted on 06/06/2007 12:51:55 PM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” — Karl Marx


33 posted on 06/06/2007 12:52:00 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They've screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Who’s “we?


34 posted on 06/06/2007 12:52:04 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“And I certainly think the free market has failed.

Commie b****

35 posted on 06/06/2007 12:52:46 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Fred 2008)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“take away from some people.”

Just not from those who are making the decisions. Those people are working hard for the common people and know what's best for the rest of the peoples of whom they take care of.

36 posted on 06/06/2007 12:52:49 PM PDT by capydick (What if the Hokey Pokey IS what it's all about?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Notice that in order to give some people more, we HAVE to take from those that have - zero sum game.

The correlary to this thought process is that in order for one person to become rich, they MUST have taken their wealth from someone else, namely “the poor”.

It is a requirement that you be economically ignorant in order to be a “liberal”.


37 posted on 06/06/2007 12:52:53 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Clinton told her donors, “We’re not coming to you, many of whom are well enough off that actually the tax cuts may have helped you, and say ‘we’re going to give you more.’ We’re saying, ‘you know what, for America to get back on track and be fiscally responsible, we’re probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.”


This is consequence of Conservatives allowing Liberals to label a “tax rate cut” as a “tax cut”.

Every time a reporter asks a Conservate about the “tax cuts for the rich”, the Conservative should respond with “You mean a tax RATE cut, because we have lots of evidence that cutting rates results in an increase in taxes paid.”

He who defines the terms of the debate is well on the way to winning the debate.


38 posted on 06/06/2007 12:52:56 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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To: MrB

Actually, it only takes 273 Eletoral votes.


39 posted on 06/06/2007 12:53:11 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: SlowBoat407

Grrrrrr!...........


40 posted on 06/06/2007 12:53:11 PM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said. “I mean, that is a fact. So what do we do? We have to build a political consensus. And that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground.”

What if the uninsured peerson is uninsured due to poor choices? If they decide $25 a week is better spent on a case of Bud than medical insurance coverage, why should Comrade Hillary take away the money I have left after I pay for my insurance?

41 posted on 06/06/2007 12:53:51 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: subterfuge

In Canada, a Cardiac patient is ten times more likely to die waiting than on the operating table. - Toronto Globe and Mail


42 posted on 06/06/2007 12:53:55 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

‘told listeners in that order to attain energy independence and provide universal health coverage, it would be necessary to “take away from some people.” ‘

There are over 190 countries on this planet.

Not ONE OF THEM IS “ENERGY INDEPENDENT”.

None of them ever will be.

Second point - You First Mrs Clinton. Give up the big houses, the big paydays, FIRST.

Then come talk to me.


43 posted on 06/06/2007 12:54:12 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Lurker

I contend that Hillary is the only candidate on either side capable of inciting a civil war.


44 posted on 06/06/2007 12:54:20 PM PDT by IncPen (The Liberal's Reward is Self Disgust)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Free health care for the illegals...

/s


45 posted on 06/06/2007 12:55:04 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: massgopguy
Who’s “we?

Her and Bill, of course.
46 posted on 06/06/2007 12:55:12 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Badeye

This Broad is nuts


47 posted on 06/06/2007 12:55:19 PM PDT by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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To: MrB
"All it takes is 50.01% of the voting population that believes this is the right course to put her into office."

It takes a lot less than that. The Stain won with 43%

48 posted on 06/06/2007 12:55:40 PM PDT by libs_kma (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"She added, “We’re going to take things away form you on behalf of the common good.” "

Why doesn't she just make it her campaign slogan: From each according to their means, To each according to their needs.

What kind of good communist doen't have a mindless slogan

49 posted on 06/06/2007 12:55:48 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

geeesh I had to look to see if this was Scrappleface... sadly, it’s not


50 posted on 06/06/2007 12:56:32 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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