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Clinton: "Something Has to be Taken Away from Some People"
Townhall.com ^ | June 4, 2007 | Amanda Carpenter

Posted on 06/06/2007 12:41:35 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

During a nationally broadcast forum Monday evening on faith and politics Sen. Hillary Clinton (D.-N.Y.) attacked the free market and told listeners in that order to attain energy independence and provide universal health coverage, it would be necessary to “take away from some people.”

“An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said. “I mean, that is a fact. So what do we do? We have to build a political consensus. And that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground.”

She went on, “The same with energy. You know, we can’t keep talking about our dependence on foreign oil and the need to deal with global warming and the challenge that it poses to our climate and to God’s creation and just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.”

Clinton made these comments near the end of her allotted 15-minute portion of the event.

Clinton also said that “the adult society has failed” young people “who are tremendously influenced by the media culture and by the celebrity culture.”

“I think that we have failed them in our churches, our schools and our government,” she said. “And I certainly think the free market has failed. We’ve all failed.”

The New York senator said something similar to “taking things away from some people” at a June 2004 private fundraising event in San Francisco. There, Associated Press reporter Beth Fouhy wrote that Clinton told attendees Democrats should take money back from taxpayers who benefited from President Bush’s tax cuts.

Clinton told her donors, “We're not coming to you, many of whom are well enough off that actually the tax cuts may have helped you, and say 'we're going to give you more.' We're saying, 'you know what, for America to get back on track and be fiscally responsible, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.”

She added, “We’re going to take things away form you on behalf of the common good.”

On the campaign trail, each of the three leading Democrats running for their party’s nomination for President, Clinton, former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.), have said he or she would repeal the Bush tax cuts to help finance universal health care.

The June 4 event was hosted by Sojourners, a social justice movement for progressive Christians. Founder Jim Wallis is the author of “God’s Politics: Why the Right Gets It Wrong and the Left Doesn’t Get It.”

CNN’s Soledad O’Brien moderated the forum. It aired on that station Monday evening from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m.

Edwards and Obama also participated.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; barackobama; bush; candidates; churches; communism; economy; elections; energy; energyindependence; freemarkets; georgewbush; healthcare; hillary; hillarycare; hillaryclinton; johnedwards; liberalism; marxism; presidentbush; schools; socialism; taxcuts; taxes
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“An uninsured person who goes to the hospital is more likely to die than an insured person,” Clinton said. “I mean, that is a fact. So what do we do? We have to build a political consensus. And that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground.”

What if the uninsured peerson is uninsured due to poor choices? If they decide $25 a week is better spent on a case of Bud than medical insurance coverage, why should Comrade Hillary take away the money I have left after I pay for my insurance?

41 posted on 06/06/2007 12:53:51 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: subterfuge

In Canada, a Cardiac patient is ten times more likely to die waiting than on the operating table. - Toronto Globe and Mail


42 posted on 06/06/2007 12:53:55 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

‘told listeners in that order to attain energy independence and provide universal health coverage, it would be necessary to “take away from some people.” ‘

There are over 190 countries on this planet.

Not ONE OF THEM IS “ENERGY INDEPENDENT”.

None of them ever will be.

Second point - You First Mrs Clinton. Give up the big houses, the big paydays, FIRST.

Then come talk to me.


43 posted on 06/06/2007 12:54:12 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Lurker

I contend that Hillary is the only candidate on either side capable of inciting a civil war.


44 posted on 06/06/2007 12:54:20 PM PDT by IncPen (The Liberal's Reward is Self Disgust)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Free health care for the illegals...

/s


45 posted on 06/06/2007 12:55:04 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: massgopguy
Who’s “we?

Her and Bill, of course.
46 posted on 06/06/2007 12:55:12 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Badeye

This Broad is nuts


47 posted on 06/06/2007 12:55:19 PM PDT by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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To: MrB
"All it takes is 50.01% of the voting population that believes this is the right course to put her into office."

It takes a lot less than that. The Stain won with 43%

48 posted on 06/06/2007 12:55:40 PM PDT by libs_kma (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"She added, “We’re going to take things away form you on behalf of the common good.” "

Why doesn't she just make it her campaign slogan: From each according to their means, To each according to their needs.

What kind of good communist doen't have a mindless slogan

49 posted on 06/06/2007 12:55:48 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

geeesh I had to look to see if this was Scrappleface... sadly, it’s not


50 posted on 06/06/2007 12:56:32 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: MrB
All it takes is 50.01% of the voting population that believes this is the right course to put her into office.

It didn't take her husband that much even.

51 posted on 06/06/2007 12:56:34 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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To: reefdiver

According to Bernstein, yep she is.


52 posted on 06/06/2007 12:57:04 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Clinton also said that “the adult society has failed” young people “who are tremendously influenced by the media culture and by the celebrity culture.” “I think that we have failed them in our churches, our schools and our government,” she said. “And I certainly think the free market has failed. We’ve all failed.”

She is quite a demagogue. She notes that the popular culture, created by the Hollyweirdos and the media, is having a negative effect on young people, but then the first group she singles out for blame is churches! Not of course, the bloodsucking leeches who have turned popular culture into a sewer, since they are her biggest campaign contributors.

53 posted on 06/06/2007 12:57:05 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Coming soon to Borders Books: Chairperson Hil’s Little Red Book of Communist Cute Sayings


54 posted on 06/06/2007 12:57:07 PM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: Red Badger

Yup, I was going to say: 2004? Didn’t this just happen?


55 posted on 06/06/2007 12:57:14 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Mr. K

Actually, she is advocating only half the equation: From each according to their means.

The ‘common good’ does not necessarily mean, ‘to each according to their needs.’


56 posted on 06/06/2007 12:57:26 PM PDT by Sundog (It's a good day for a catharsis.)
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To: Rummyfan
The arrogance is stunning! Not give it to you? It's our money bee - otch, not yours!

I think she is just proving that she isn't "the smartest woman in the world." However, it's an appeal to the "have-nots" to vote for her and her party. It's the old 3 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner thing.

57 posted on 06/06/2007 12:57:37 PM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
" just remember, the Democratic and Republican candidates probably all believe this crap to some extent...'

Can you elaborate further on those Republican candidates to which you attribute these same sentiments as Hillary has expressed?

58 posted on 06/06/2007 12:57:44 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is one of the most common fallacies of the share-of-the-pie-crowd. Do they ever think of Repealing the Treaty? No. They just send their annual dues to the Club of Rome.


59 posted on 06/06/2007 12:57:45 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Hillary/Chavez 2008
Speed the social need

60 posted on 06/06/2007 12:58:01 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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