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NASA's Griffin Regrets Remarks on Global Warming
Sci-Tech Today ^ | June 6, 2007 | Alicia Chang

Posted on 06/06/2007 2:15:51 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative

NASA administrator Michael Griffin made headlines last week when he told a National Public Radio interviewer he wasn't sure global warming was a problem. "All I can really do is apologize to all you guys ... I feel badly that I caused this amount of controversy over something like this," said Griffin.

The head of NASA told scientists and engineers that he regrets airing his personal views about global warming during a recent radio interview, according to a video of the meeting obtained by The Associated Press.

NASA administrator Michael Griffin said in the closed-door meeting Monday at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena that "unfortunately, this is an issue which has become far more political than technical and it would have been well for me to have stayed out of it."

"All I can really do is apologize to all you guys ... I feel badly that I caused this amount of controversy over something like this," he said.

Griffin made headlines last week when he told a National Public Radio interviewer he wasn't sure global warming was a problem.

"I have no doubt that ... a trend of global warming exists," Griffin said on NPR. "I am not sure that it is fair to say that it is a problem we must wrestle with."

The radio interview angered some climate scientists, who called his remarks ignorant.

An international panel this year predicted that uncontrolled greenhouse gas emissions could drive up global temperatures and trigger heat waves, devastating droughts and super storms. Observations by NASA satellites show evidence of rapidly melting glaciers and shrinking of critical marine plant life due to warmer seas.

Griffin reiterated that NASA's job was to provide scientific data on global warming and leave it up to policy makers to decide what to do with it.

Griffin told JPL workers he tried to separate his opinions during the NPR interview, but that it got "lost in the shuffle."

"Doing media interviews is an art. Their goal is usually to generate controversy because it sells interviews and papers and my goal is usually to avoid controversy," he said.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blaspheminggore; climatechange; ecofascism; energy; globalwarming; gorepardon; griffin; religionofgore; repentence
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Notice how carefully he declines to actually disavow said unpopular opinion. He deserves an attaboy for his well-crafted apology.
1 posted on 06/06/2007 2:15:52 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative
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To: xcamel; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

ping


2 posted on 06/06/2007 2:16:23 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Yep, he went off the reservation and the global warming zealots went after him with their typical Orwelllian tactics. These people need to be stopped.


3 posted on 06/06/2007 2:17:27 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Oberint Dum Metuant - "Let them Hate, as long as they Fear.")
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Score one for the thought police...
4 posted on 06/06/2007 2:17:39 PM PDT by GOPJ (Import fruit, not illegal pickers.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
LOL, was he ever told to "get his mind right."

The Thought Police have struck again.

5 posted on 06/06/2007 2:18:04 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; BlessedBeGod; ...

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6 posted on 06/06/2007 2:19:27 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: PeterFinn

posts 3, 4 and 5 all reference 1984 in 37 seconds. Who says that great minds think alike?


7 posted on 06/06/2007 2:19:46 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
NASA's Griffin Regrets Remarks on Global Warming Interview with NPR
8 posted on 06/06/2007 2:20:30 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

In what other scientific field does one have to apologize for holding a particular viewpoint?


9 posted on 06/06/2007 2:20:52 PM PDT by posterchild (How did trees absorb CO2 before carbon funds started collecting money to manage the process?)
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To: KC Burke

“The Thought Police have struck again.” ...and LOST!

He basically said, “I’m sorry my opinion bothers you, or has caused you trouble”.


10 posted on 06/06/2007 2:20:59 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

There is a streak of fascism in the science community that gives one pause.


11 posted on 06/06/2007 2:21:06 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

It’s really bad to diss someone’s religion. And global warming of Mother Earth has become a religion.


12 posted on 06/06/2007 2:22:15 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

he regrets airing his personal views about global warming

All the proponents have are personal views...........


13 posted on 06/06/2007 2:22:42 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: KC Burke

Man, all within a minute. I guess it’s so terribly obvious what is really going on here. It isn’t about global warming at all, it’s just the War on Communism (WoC) being fought on a different front. Every time you think you have those roaches stopmed they come at you from a different direction.


14 posted on 06/06/2007 2:23:45 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Oberint Dum Metuant - "Let them Hate, as long as they Fear.")
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

An apology like Galleleo’s.... repent ye who commit heresy against the Church of Global Warming


15 posted on 06/06/2007 2:24:02 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Paris Hilton - dong more jailtime than Sandy Berger.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Has St. Al of Gore granted him absolution? Or will he be burnt at the stake using a renewable biofuel?


16 posted on 06/06/2007 2:24:28 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: Frank_Discussion

Oh, I know he worded his apology with artfulness but it is still disgusting to see a person in moderate authority in a science agency having to cow-tow to leftist mythology.


17 posted on 06/06/2007 2:24:41 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Since when does anyone care about ANYTHING said on NPR?


18 posted on 06/06/2007 2:26:13 PM PDT by Dutch14 (The last one out of the circus has to lock up everything...)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

I agree. My daughter has a degree in HydroGeology from the Department of GeoSciences - University of Texas Austin...
She said that at the UT GeoScience Department
Global Warming is a big joke not worth discussing!


19 posted on 06/06/2007 2:26:14 PM PDT by buffyt (I hope it gets a little warmer up north. I’ve always wanted to hunt polar bears but it's too cold!)
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To: KC Burke

I agree, but Griffin’s a pretty pragmatic fella, and this is far as he’ll go. He did jab them in the collective eye a bit...


20 posted on 06/06/2007 2:28:12 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: buffyt

That’s interesting, given that Austin is pretty widely known to be a liberal loony-bin. Good news in that at least a part of that city is still sane.


21 posted on 06/06/2007 2:28:33 PM PDT by SAJ (debunking myths about markets and prices on FR since 2001)
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To: buffyt

Well, it ain’t no joke, it’s going to cost all of us a lot of money if this whole charade isn’t stopped.


22 posted on 06/06/2007 2:28:56 PM PDT by StACase
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
The radio interview angered some climate scientists, who called his remarks ignorant.

His remarks weren't ignorant at all. He never claimed to be a climate expert, but he asked some very good questions about the assertion that we must solve the "problem".

23 posted on 06/06/2007 2:29:04 PM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: jwalsh07
There is a streak of fascism in the science community that gives one pause.

Scientists are people too. Lots of cash is floating around for those who are willing to spout the GlobalWarmingTM mantra and people can get pretty vicious when it comes to protecting their rice bowls.

24 posted on 06/06/2007 2:29:28 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Sounded scripted to me; what I got out of it is that he wants to keep his job.


25 posted on 06/06/2007 2:30:22 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

no he doesn’t... shouldn’t have apologized at all.


26 posted on 06/06/2007 2:33:13 PM PDT by fhlh (Liberal (noun): A person so open minded, their brains have fallen out of their head.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
"All I can really do is apologize to all you guys ... I feel badly that I caused this amount of controversy over something like this," said Griffin.

Evolve a spine, Griffin.
27 posted on 06/06/2007 2:34:54 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
He has sinned in the church of gore and has asked for forgiveness. His penance will be three carbon credits and two tree hugs.

What insanity!

28 posted on 06/06/2007 2:37:58 PM PDT by 50mm (la prensa dos en traducir mi línea de etiqueta al inglés)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

“personal views”

Each and every utterance from the believers has been no more than a personal view.


29 posted on 06/06/2007 2:40:06 PM PDT by Sir Clean Plate Club (Gore feels things are getting warmer because he is on his way to Hell)
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To: GOPJ

“Who are the Brain Police?” FZ


30 posted on 06/06/2007 2:49:54 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
This man is a PhD. He knows of what he speaks. He has to “apologize” for telling the truth. Al Gore never earned a degree in anything. He knows nil or less. He gets an Oscar. Go figure.
31 posted on 06/06/2007 2:57:25 PM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: PeterPrinciple

All is forgiven, just spend a few months in the Al Gore harmony hut for retraining


32 posted on 06/06/2007 3:01:08 PM PDT by stan_sipple
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
NASA administrator Michael Griffin made headlines last week when he told a National Public Radio interviewer he wasn't sure global warming was a problem. "All I can really do is apologize to all you guys ... I feel badly that I caused this amount of controversy over something like this," said Griffin.

Genuine scientists know that the Sun is the source of climate change, and has been for the past 400,000 years. Climate change has been going on for millions of years. If Mars and other planets in our solar system are experiencing global warming, so is the Earth. The Earth has experienced and will continue to experience climate change. Unfortunately you cannot say that, especially on Marxist public radio.

33 posted on 06/06/2007 3:58:50 PM PDT by olezip
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To: stan_sipple

BUMP!


34 posted on 06/06/2007 4:00:56 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
I still don't see why he had to apologize to "all you guys".
The only nutburger crazy enough to keep opening his mouth at NASA that I know of is James Hansen.

Why hasn't he been fired yet?

As an aside, this whole episode reminds me of the old cautionary tale about the gardener hired to "take care of the garden". Eventually he felt entitled to take over the entire household...

Griffin couldn't have said it better: we provide the facts, the politicians, elected or otherwise, decide what to do with them...

35 posted on 06/06/2007 4:05:34 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

He didn’t take anything back except to clarify that it is his own opinion and not his job to lobby for policy on this issue. But, how is it Hansen’s job to lobby for policy on this?


36 posted on 06/06/2007 4:08:18 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: jwalsh07

“There is a streak of fascism in the science community that gives one pause.”

The global warming movement is driven by politics. Politicians and the media are the storm troopers, scientists.


37 posted on 06/06/2007 4:27:54 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fedora; Fred Nerks; ...
The radio interview angered some climate scientists, who called his remarks ignorant.
Why, oh, why, doesn't the article name names? What Griffin said last week was remarkably enlightened.
38 posted on 06/06/2007 4:51:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated May 31, 2007.)
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Well, it ain’t no joke, it’s going to cost all of us a lot of money if this whole charade isn’t stopped.

I don't understand why people say it's funny. The taxes, loss of freedom, loss of jobs when the worldwide economic depression hits, and socialism imposed by force is no laughing matter.

And it's all over some BS theory that has yet to be proven and makes no sense if you look at how small our CO2 emissions really are compared to the total and the volume of the atmosphere. That's not even including the cause (sun) and the real greenhouse gas (water vapor).

39 posted on 06/06/2007 4:59:59 PM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: jwalsh07
There is a streak of fascism in the science community that gives one pause.

Yes, very much so. I was in a PhD program in Ecology back in the '80s. I attended a briefing on a study of the correlation between air pollution and the disappearance of balsams in the Smokies. The conclusion of the study was they could find no such correlation. (We now know it was an insect infestation causing the problem.)

Immediately after the presentation, the forum shifted to how to impose restrictions on air emissions in order to protect the Smokies woodlands. I interrupted and asked for clarification ... why would we do that if we could find no correlation of air pollution and the destruction of the mountain forests? The response was that it was a good opportunity to use scientific research to change human behavior.

I dropped out of the program a couple of years later. The politics outweighed science everywhere I turned.

40 posted on 06/06/2007 5:15:28 PM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: SteamShovel

I take issue with your argument, not because it's wrong, it's not, but because it let's the claim stand that CO2 causes global warming.

If CO2 really causes warming, then they have a point. But if it doesn't they need to go pound sand ....

CO2 concentrations of 200ppm, 300ppm or 400ppm doesn't matter, all absorb 100% of the Infra Red in its absorption spectrum well before that heat escapes out into space. As an analogy hold a sheet of paper up in front of a light bulb. You can see light through it can't you. Now hold up two sheets some light still gets through. Three sheets? Well at some point it doesn't matter. More sheets of paper won't hold back any more light. Same is true with CO2. Higher concentrations don't hold back anymore heat.

41 posted on 06/06/2007 5:38:18 PM PDT by StACase
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To: SteamShovel
That's not even including the cause (sun) and the real greenhouse gas (water vapor).

Water Vapor world over, about 18,000 parts per million (ppm). Carbon Dioxide, 350 ppm.

Average molecular mass of air (N2, O2): 28 amu. Molecular mass of CO2: 44 amu.

Geologic flux of atmospheric CO2 is primarily artefact. The Earth warms, Venus warms, Mars warms: proportionally more atmospheric CO2 as per Boltzman kinetics vs escape velocity.

Anthropogenic CO2 not even close to being any cause of anything.

Al Gore is just an ignorant juvenile who needs attention, pretty much the same as all professional politicians, (and Hollywood).

No argument here against cutting oil dependence, but deceit and incompetence doesn't advance that agenda one iota.

42 posted on 06/06/2007 5:45:59 PM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: StACase; jnsun; All

Can anyone here tell me what the average temp of the earth should be??


43 posted on 06/06/2007 7:01:07 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative; fanfan; GMMAC; xcamel; DaveLoneRanger; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...

All this does is give his opinion more air play. At no point does he reverse his original statement. Take a look at this guys education he is just about the most qualified person in the world to talk about climate change.

Dr. Griffin holds seven degrees, and is pursuing his eighth. In chronological order of attainment, Dr. Griffin’s degrees include:

* BS Physics (The Johns Hopkins University, 1971)
* MS Aerospace Science (The Catholic University of America, 1974)
* PhD Aerospace Engineering (University of Maryland, College Park, 1977)
* MEng Electrical Engineering (University of Southern California, 1979)
* MS Applied Physics (The Johns Hopkins University, 1983)
* MBA Master of Business Administration (Loyola College in Maryland)
* MEng Civil Engineering (The George Washington University, 1998)

Dr. Griffin was also working toward an MS in computer science at Johns Hopkins University before being appointed as NASA chief. Dr. Griffin has been a professor at various universities, teaching courses in spacecraft design, applied mathematics, guidance and navigation, compressible flow, computational fluid dynamics, spacecraft altitude control, astrodynamics, and introductory aerospace engineering. He is the lead author of more than two dozen technical papers, and is co-author with James R. French of the graduate astronautical engineering textbook, “Space Vehicle Design.” ISBN 1-56347-539-1 Dr. Griffin is also a general aviation flight instructor and pilot, and part-owner of a small airplane.


44 posted on 06/06/2007 7:03:00 PM PDT by Reform Canada (Kyoto=>More Unemployment=>More Poverty=>More Homeless=>More Crime=>More Rape & Murder)
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To: SunkenCiv; SierraWasp; B4Ranch; neverdem; PhilDragoo; NormsRevenge; Lady Jag; NRA2BFree; ...
Although the HEADLINE obviously (...purposefully?) implies something different... THIS line from the body of the article 'tells the tale':

Michael Griffin: "unfortunately, this is an issue which has become far more political than technical..."


45 posted on 06/06/2007 7:21:27 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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Well done


46 posted on 06/06/2007 7:30:45 PM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Today _20_More_Than_Al-Qaeda_Did_ _Smoke_Gets_in_My_Eyes_)
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To: Seadog Bytes

What a pathetically politickle pantload!!! Just disgusting!!!


47 posted on 06/06/2007 7:50:42 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: Redcloak; Seadog Bytes
"Has St. Al of Gore granted him absolution?"

No! He has to buy mucho (a little illegal alien lingo there) ox Gored indulgences, first!!!

48 posted on 06/06/2007 7:56:17 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: KC Burke
Who says that great minds think alike?

:)

49 posted on 06/06/2007 8:02:22 PM PDT by GOPJ (Import fruit, not illegal pickers.)
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To: Seadog Bytes

I’m saw-ree... Sow saw-ree that I wuz such a fool... but I luv the truth and I wuz too blind to see... Your current flight of fanciful pharcical sillyness... (we interrupt this tune to ask the audience if they been given these GovernMental EnvironMental Religious Clerics any way out pharmacuticals lately that make them hate truthful actual scientific methods)


50 posted on 06/06/2007 8:11:35 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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