Skip to comments.What it's really like to be a woman in Saudi Arabia
Posted on 06/07/2007 8:14:46 AM PDT by van_erwin
Crossing the cafe, I felt the hard stares of Saudi men. A few of them stopped talking as I walked by and watched me pass. Them, too, I ignored. Finally, coffee in hand, I sank into the sumptuous lap of an overstuffed armchair.
"Excuse me," hissed the voice in my ear. "You can't sit here." The man from the counter had appeared at my elbow. He was glaring.
"Excuse me?" I blinked a few times.
"Emmm," he drew his discomfort into a long syllable, his brows knitted. "You cannot stay here."
"What? Uh why?"
Then he said it: "Men only."
He didn't tell me what I would learn later: Starbucks had another, unmarked door around back that led to a smaller espresso bar, and a handful of tables smothered by curtains. That was the "family" section. As a woman, that's where I belonged. I had no right to mix with male customers or sit in plain view of passing shoppers. Like the segregated South of a bygone United States, today's Saudi Arabia shunts half the population into separate, inferior and usually invisible spaces.
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So What. Still not enough to raise the ire of the woman’s movement.
I wonder if they even see the irony.
Liberals do everything they can to destroy the Judeo-Christian culture of the West that gave them (especially women) freedom and liberty - and then complain about what is going to replace it.
Momma always said, “Stupid is as stupid does...”
What’s it like to be Paris Hilton in America?
Kinda like apartheid.... only acceptable to liberals.
That statement would cause feminists to shout you down. According to what I've read, it's the Judeo-Christian culture of the West that has led the way to oppression and male and white domination of our culture, and that the only way to free women is to destroy the Judeo-Christian patriarchical societal model.
According to what I've read, it's the Judeo-Christian culture of the West that has led the way to oppression and male and white domination of our culture, and that the only way to free women is to destroy the Judeo-Christian patriarchical societal model.
They may get what they want, but they won't want what they get.
So, that’s their rules
I think the point is that they want very much to expand those rules beyond their borders. There is also the blatant fact that their rules are stupid, and inferior to our own. Yes, inferior.
Wait. Isn’t this what Marriott Corp. is doing with it’s women’s only floors and lounges?
Lots of stupid rules end up changing...not too long ago, the same could be said for ethnic people in this country.
Little do they realize how horrible life can be outside the liberty-oriented west. If they think women and minorities are ‘oppressed’ here, then just wait until they bring the culture of ‘there’ here, which they are doing when they support flooding this country with millions of people from foreign lands, languages and cultures.
The radical fems are not so much opposed to discrimination per se; rather, they oppose application to them of any standards of conduct, such as Judeo-Christian moral teachings’ that would intervere with their “right” to enjoy the rut at any age, at any time and with any one without moral pangs or conseques, including any “product” of intercourse, such as a child. Thus, to kill the child becomes a legitimate “choice” so that it will not interfere with their continued pleasure seeking. They have completely redefined morality to be aligned with pleasure and they assert that whatever interferes with an individual’s pleasure or happiness is evil (immoral). Of course this means that there is really no basis to condemn anyone’s conduct of any kind if it brings them pleasure. So if Muslim men are pleased to not have to suffer the presence of women or are pleased to “circumcise” them or stone them for adultry, what basis do the radical fems have to condemn them? As a result, they are silent when these things occur.
need to read closer: change conseques to consequences
Your summary is right on target.
Double standards in action again!
The big fad now is women’s gyms. I guess there are so many guys working out in most gyms and women don’t like to be stared at while they are working out.
I lived in SA for 5 years, and unmarried persons (Male and Female) could not be out together. Many restaurants had separate areas for women or families. Most restaurants did not have separate areas, except the fast food or coffee shops.
No no no no....stupid patriarchal stooge! Marriott is creating wimmin friendly spaces, refuges from inherently oppressive men.
It is completely differant from Sexist Men only clubs and rooms. DOH!
Everytime a feminists states for fact that the Judeo-Christian religions have held women back, I bring up the names Deborah and Golda Meir.
You would be amazed how many of these “educated” women had no idea that the fourth Judge of Israel was a woman, or that the fourth Prime Minister of Israel was a woman.
They are stunned that these “misogynistic” Jews would put women into positions of authority. I also point out that Christiandom led to Catherine the Great, Elizabeth, Victoria, Joan of Arc, Mary Queen of Scots, Margaret Thatcher, etc.
Ask them for a female ruler outside of the Judeo-Christian cultures and they can name maybe 3 or 4 at most.
Apparently the woman pretending to be a Muslim did not really study the culture. She thinks that her culture is better; it may not be.
Maybe best for no woman to mix with Moslem men. It seems their culture encourages them to be raped, enslaved, stoned, flogged and beheaded.
Sparta seems to have had the first society where men and women were treated fairly equally. Rome was not too bad either. The Germanic and Celtic tribes certainly accorded women higher status than the Middle Eastern scum.
Ah, so silly of me not to grasp the distinctions! LOL
Thank heavens you were there to straighten me out.
Where are the feminist in America on this topic? Where’s HRC?
You are assuming that Feminists are motivated by sex. Let me assure you they are NOT. Feminists reject most forms of sexuality and the practice of sex as misogynistic.
I think their lack attractiveness or desirable demeanor has left them bitter and spiteful and in response they lash out at a world that largely rejects them.
Might be interesting to read the rest, but since registration is required, I’ll pass.
American women visiting or working in Saudi Arabia do NOT have to wear the prescribed clothing (burka). They do have to dress modestly (e.g. a dress that buttons to the neck like a 1900s schoolmarm). If the writer chose to wear a burkha she is pretending to be a Muslim IMO. That is, she is implying that she agrees with the precepts of Islam by wearing religious clothing.
Care to explain your assertion that Saudi Culture “might be” better than ours?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
If I were a woman,there would be only one wish.
Western and white