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Immigration Bill Suffers Stunning Defeat
NewsMax ^ | June 8, 2007

Posted on 06/07/2007 9:10:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A broad immigration bill to legalize millions of people in the U.S. unlawfully failed a crucial test vote in the Senate Thursday, a stunning setback that could spell its defeat for the year.

The vote was 45-50 against limiting debate on the bill, 15 short of the 60 that the bill's supporters needed to prevail. Most Republicans voted to block Democrats' efforts to bring the bill to a final vote.

The legislation, which had been endorsed by President Bush, would tighten borders, institute a new system to prevent employers from hiring undocumented workers in addition to giving up to 12 million illegal immigrants a pathway to legal status.

Conceived by an improbable coalition that nicknamed the deal a "grand bargain," the measure exposed deep rifts within both parties and is loathed by most GOP conservatives.

Senate Majority Harry Reid, D-Nev., who had made no secret of his distaste for parts of the bill, said earlier he would move on to other matters if the immigration measure's supporters didn't get 60 votes Thursday night.

The defeat set off a bitter round of partisan recriminations, with Democrats and Republicans each accusing the other of killing it.

Most Republicans voted against ending debate, saying they needed more time to make the bill tougher with tighter border security measures and a more arduous legalization process for unlawful immigrants.

All but a handful of Democrats supported the move, but they, too, were holding their noses at provisions of the bill. Many of them argued it makes second-class citizens of a new crop of temporary workers and rips apart families by prioritizing employability over blood ties in future immigration.

Still, they had argued that the measure, on balance, was worth advancing.

"We can all find different aspects of this legislation that we differ with," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, the leading Democratic architect of the bill.

Reid, who had made no secret of his distaste for parts of the bill, quickly pulled it from the floor and moved on to other business, costing the measure perhaps its best chance at enactment.

He insisted that the immigration bill is not dead for the year. "I, even though disappointed, look forward to passing this bill," Reid said.


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Hip, hip, hooray!!
1 posted on 06/07/2007 9:10:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good for the United States of America !!!


2 posted on 06/07/2007 9:11:33 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I just sent Senator Jeff Sessions and his staff a thank you note.

Jeff Sessions for president!!

3 posted on 06/07/2007 9:12:59 PM PDT by blam
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh! say, can you see, by the dawn’s early light,
W hat so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O’er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?

And the rocket’s red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof thro’ the night that our flag was still there.
Oh! say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave,
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?


On the shore, dimly seen thro’ the mist of the deep,
Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep.
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?

Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream
‘Tis the star-spangled banner. Oh! long may it wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!


And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footstep’s pollution.

No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.


Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war’s desolation,
Blest with vict’ry and peace, may the Heav’n - rescued land
Praise the Pow’r that hath made and preserved us a nation.

Then conquer we must, for our cause is just,
And this be our motto—”In God is our trust.”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.


4 posted on 06/07/2007 9:13:22 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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I wonder how this is being portrayed on Spanish language radio stations in the southwest part of the country.


5 posted on 06/07/2007 9:14:02 PM PDT by Doofer (Go here http://www.imwithfred.com/ and sign up....)
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To: Obie Wan

PS,screw George Bush !!!


6 posted on 06/07/2007 9:14:05 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Let 'em try again. We'll be back if they do.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

7 posted on 06/07/2007 9:14:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stunning to who?


8 posted on 06/07/2007 9:14:43 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy (Satan has a new name and it is Islam)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Keep your eyes down the road. Watch for this bill to be included in a military expediture or something, like the online gambling ban was to the port security bill.


9 posted on 06/07/2007 9:15:03 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The legislation, which had been endorsed by President Bush, would tighten borders, institute a new system to prevent employers from hiring undocumented workers in addition to giving up to 12 million illegal immigrants a pathway to legal status.

how biased is this writer? which way does he lean? hmmm... it's not obvious at all...

10 posted on 06/07/2007 9:15:25 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

gosh, that’s a real shame!

i’ll be nasty pelosi and hairy reid are really upsetted.


11 posted on 06/07/2007 9:16:02 PM PDT by ken21 (tv: 1. sells products. 2. indoctrinates viewers into socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

we have won the battle, but the war goes on...


12 posted on 06/07/2007 9:16:38 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: hatfieldmccoy
Stunning to who?

Those in Reality-Free Washington, D.C., that's who.

13 posted on 06/07/2007 9:17:35 PM PDT by madison10
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A broad immigration bill to legalize millions of people in the U.S. unlawfully failed a crucial test vote in the Senate...

YES!

14 posted on 06/07/2007 9:17:38 PM PDT by GOPJ (Import fruit, not illegal pickers.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeppers. no raza


15 posted on 06/07/2007 9:17:48 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is not over yet. They can't give up this easily. They will resurect it and call it something else. We have to keep our gurad up. Stage two is to go after the people who hire illegals. Start fining them and arresting them. just catch ten or 100 of them on the nightly news. the magnet will dry up and most of the 12 million will go home by themselves.


16 posted on 06/07/2007 9:18:09 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
"we have won the battle, but the war goes on.."

I'm just thrilled that we won the battle. This is the first time in a year that the lefties got turned back on anything.
17 posted on 06/07/2007 9:19:05 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

“Stunning to who?” The defeatocrats, RINOs, one-worlders, illegal employers, La Raza, criminal gangs, “immigration activists” and that lot, I would guess....


18 posted on 06/07/2007 9:19:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: latina4dubya
IT'S A LIE. THEY DON'T HAVE THE HONESTY TO ADMIT ITS AMNESTY! END OF RANT. I usually don't shout but like the Cretans, I hate liars. Especially Drive By/MSM ones.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

19 posted on 06/07/2007 9:20:46 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ken21

Yeah except for one little problem.There’s a group of people including the guy in the White House who are trying to sell you out as fast as any D’craps are.Know your enemies regardless of who they’re supposed to be,cause they’ll cut your throat as quick as anyone else !!!


20 posted on 06/07/2007 9:21:13 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Obie Wan

"Gosh darn it, why won't those right-wing nutjobs learn to see it MY way! ¡Necesitamos más cazadores en America!"

21 posted on 06/07/2007 9:21:24 PM PDT by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

RIGHT ON but now do you want to hear the bad news we will have to keep this up everytime a bill like this comes up WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


22 posted on 06/07/2007 9:21:49 PM PDT by Lees Swrd
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To: Cacique

Make your Stage Two into Stage One, then get rid of minimum wage.

Nice work, FRiend. The remaining Good Guys can build this into 2008, if we can finish that stupid fence.

Unbelievable day. Cornyn Amendment dissenters really stand out.


23 posted on 06/07/2007 9:22:12 PM PDT by IslandJeff ("I used to care, but things have changed" - Robert Zimmerman)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stunning? Stunning for whom? The media maybe? Liberal politicians perhaps?


24 posted on 06/07/2007 9:22:58 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Doofer

Univision has it as the great tragedy of our time. Lastima.


25 posted on 06/07/2007 9:23:23 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They've screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It was a victory for hardworking Americans no matter their party affiliation!
26 posted on 06/07/2007 9:23:26 PM PDT by linn37 (Love your Phlebotomist)
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To: GonzoGOP

The got turned back on the war funding two weeks ago, too.


27 posted on 06/07/2007 9:24:41 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (They've screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: IslandJeff

(the fence isn’t stupid. The incompetence and lack of progress is. For the record.)


28 posted on 06/07/2007 9:24:43 PM PDT by IslandJeff ("I used to care, but things have changed" - Robert Zimmerman)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

Stunning to the liberal/left media that thought they gave this garbage enough cover to confuse people to apathy.

They failed and they are shocked. The people organized via the facts on the net strikes again.

I say that as I have the bill on my desktop and I know I’m not the only one.


29 posted on 06/07/2007 9:25:15 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: blam
Jeff Sessions for president!!

I started hoping so from previous work he's done.

30 posted on 06/07/2007 9:25:41 PM PDT by skr (Car bombs and IEDs are the exclamation marks for the latest Democrats' talking points.)
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To: Tzimisce
I'm amused when liberals get buffaloed. They think we conservatives should just shut up and not be heard. Gee, I'm taking schadenfreude delight in the fallout from tonight's vote.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

31 posted on 06/07/2007 9:26:02 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s the “Loud People’s” fault.


32 posted on 06/07/2007 9:26:07 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: linn37

Or their race or background for that matter. It’s a victory for hispanics born here and legal immigrants who waited on line. A victory for blacks etc. etc. etc.


33 posted on 06/07/2007 9:26:12 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: TonyRo76

34 posted on 06/07/2007 9:26:16 PM PDT by MrEdd (L. Ron Gore creator of "Fry-n-tology" the global warming religion.)
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To: linn37

It was a victory for hardworking Americans no matter their party affiliation!

Can we once say the HELL with the party and say good for the United States of America ???


35 posted on 06/07/2007 9:26:29 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

36 posted on 06/07/2007 9:27:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Obie Wan

Yes, we sure can my fellow American. Cheers. Nation before party.


37 posted on 06/07/2007 9:28:15 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: Obie Wan

#20

i voted 2x for the bush-boy in the white house,

and i’m very disappointed.


38 posted on 06/07/2007 9:28:23 PM PDT by ken21 (tv: 1. sells products. 2. indoctrinates viewers into socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This bill never had a serious chance to begin with.

There will never be another attempt at this third rail in our lifetime. What politician would be that foolish again? The next 20 Presidents will do what the last 20 have done with the Mexican border. Nobody will want to be the next GW.

Pray for W and Our Troops


39 posted on 06/07/2007 9:30:19 PM PDT by bray (The co-clintons freed more terrorists then they killed)
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To: floriduh voter; potlatch; devolve; Cacique
Sara Lister called Marines "too extreme" in 1997, and few thousand phone calls later she was leaving her Clinton-appointed position at the Defense Department to spend more time with her family.

It was the mobilized loud NO of this crappy bill's very vocal and very numerous opponents that killed it today.

When George Bush, and Harry Reid, and Ted Kennedy, and John McCain try to ram this crap through as The Baby Milk Factory Strengthening Act of 2007, we'll be ready.

Go ahead, punks, make our day.

40 posted on 06/07/2007 9:32:16 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Cacique
"This is not over yet"....

Not by a long shot. They wont give up that easy. PLUS, dont forget that while they are here illegally, they are popping out legal anchor babies like crazy. So, the 20-30 million here today 60, 80, 100 million tomorrow.

41 posted on 06/07/2007 9:32:29 PM PDT by blasater1960
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So Harry and Nancy won’t get their voters after all?

Or maybe they already do vote!


42 posted on 06/07/2007 9:32:31 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: MrEdd

LOL!


43 posted on 06/07/2007 9:32:45 PM PDT by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: Cacique

We need to get the Senate away from this Bush idea of a “comprehensive bill” and onto the right track of eating this elephant one bite at a time!
STEP 1) SECURE OUR BORDERS
“WHERE’S THE FENCE?”!!!!!!

STEP 2) WHILE BUILDING THE FENCE, TURN THE DOGS LOOSE ON ALL EMPLOYERS OF
ILLEGALS!!
START WITH THE BIGGER ONES AND HIT THEM WITH MASSIVE FINES & JAIL
TIME!!!!
STEP 3) HAVE 287(G) TRAINING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY SO LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT CAN START ROUNDING UP ILLEGALS & TURNING THEM OVER
FOR DEPORTATION. PUT JOE ARPAIO IN CHARGE OF THIS.

STEP 4) WHILE 1, 2 AND 3 ARE TAKING PLACE, LET ALL PEOPLE HEADED SOUTH CROSS
THE BORDER WITH NO INTERFERENCE.


44 posted on 06/07/2007 9:35:29 PM PDT by Halcontent
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did anyone get a list of those voting for,against or not present on this bill????


45 posted on 06/07/2007 9:37:28 PM PDT by Peacekeeper357 ( When Gore and the rest of the Limousine Liberals Carbon Footprint match mine,we'll talk)
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To: PhilDragoo

Yes, this was very good news today! They finally heard the ‘roar of the crowd’. I wonder if the President did, or if he cares?

He certainly was ‘tone deaf’ before!


46 posted on 06/07/2007 9:38:05 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m reading comments on the demise of this bill over at DU. It’s almost exactly like reading FR threads on this. They’re screeming for border control, fining employers, etc.

Seems nobody outside the beltway likes this bill.


47 posted on 06/07/2007 9:41:30 PM PDT by umgud ("When seconds count, the police are just 10 minutes away!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

its not over yet ...and it wont be over until the border is sealed, the illegals prohibited from collecting assistance, and i no longer have to push one for english!!!!!
this part we can all do...i for one will no longer shop at Lowes...i will NOT step inside their store as long as entrada is on the door!!! we all need to step it up a little more and let these businesses know what country they operate in. if they want spanish..they can all go to mexico.


49 posted on 06/07/2007 9:49:50 PM PDT by donnab
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To: PhilDragoo

I hope that strong conservatives run against all of the RINO traitors who supported this sellout of the USA.

The soundbites provided by Lott, Graham etc will be very effective in primary campaign ads.


50 posted on 06/07/2007 9:50:14 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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