Posted on 06/08/2007 12:18:29 PM PDT by jebeier
1. Bush is Stupid and Evil
2. Bush is Smart and Evil
3. Bush is Stupid and Good
4. Bush is Smart and Good
You seem to favor #1. That would more or less explain the current situation, so it is certainly a possibility.
I think #2 is right out. If he were smart he would have not made such a colossal mistake.
Similarly, #3 doesn’t make much sense, because why would a simple but good person do things that are evil.
However, #4 is a possibility, and is the premise of this thread. If Bush was smart and good, he could be advancing this bill, knowing that it is evil, but also knowing the Democrats will find it irresistible. He can then get the Democrats (and certain Republicans who he is not particularly fond of) to climb waaaaay out on a limb. At that point, it is simply a matter of sawing off the limb.
We have seen it over and over again over the past seven years. When somebody goes out on a limb and it gets sawn off, inevitably the saw has been in President Bush’s hand.
I wouldn’t say that is outside the realm of possibility, either.
The strategy?
Hardheadedness.
Who said that, originally?
Number One priority is Iraq. Where progress is being made.
However, when Iraq is in the spotlight, all those who oppose that mission get attention and airtime, the enemy in Iraq gets encouraged, and more American lives are lost.
By running this dog of a bill up the flagpole again, the opposition to the Mission in Iraq continue to be distracted, the media focus stays away from Iraq, and the lives of soldiers are saved.
I honestly believe the Pres does not give a rat’s rear about his rating, while caring infinitely about those troops. I’d say the same for Rumsfeld as well.
Granted, the outcomes of W's first few near-fiascos could be read as the fruits of Machiarrovian machinations, but now it's old William of Occam's turn.
But thanks for the diversion, on a day that sorely needs one.
Again, it’s a nice construct, and I’d like to believe you. But the problem with your dismissal of option 3 is that a sufficiently stupid person woouldn’t know the difference between good and evil, and that, I very much fear, is where GWB sits.
I just don’t buy President Bush as being that stupid.
Maybe he is, though.
Anyway, that is a thread that is only fit to start on a Friday afternoon...
My comment ended with "Naaaaa...." and received much of the same disdain your post has/is.
While it is a possibility, one must remember Bush has wanted something like this for years - which may void our assertion - but the two are not mutually exclusive - he could've seen the opportunity and resolved that any outcome would be good for him or the party - just not both...that is, he had nothing to lose.
Thoughts?
I do think the White House games these things out, very skillfully. Perhaps you are onto something, here.
too clever by half
No, too much work has gone into it highways through Texas etc. I think the idea was to slip this through while we were focused on the War On Terror. The WOT is not half the danger to this country that the immigration bill is.
The point is that I thought at the time, and perhaps still do, that something else is up.
Its good to know others think the same way :)
So many Bush bots are tempted to say, "say it isn''t so, George." It's all part of Rove's master strategy instead of the plain truth that GW is an elitist and sold out despite the faked Texan accent.
One thing we know about President Bush is that he has a long memory and likes to get even with his enemies
We do? He does? If so, he’s kept it hidden for the past 7 years. I WISH it were true, but he keeps turning the other cheek.
In 2003, I would have bought this argument.
Not now.
Perhaps your list was an unintended/unforseen positive of the bill, but I unfortunately doubt that was W’s intent, as much as I wish it were.
ping
Sorry, if W wanted good immigration policy, he would have been enforcing the law for the last 6 years.
Clinton deported more illegals in any single year of his Presidency than Bush did in his entire first term. Bush has only had some highly publicized raids when legislation is pending. People aren’t being fooled this time. Read the article in National Review by John O’Sullivan.
And that is post 9/11, when Bush was supposedly making America’s security #1. Obviously, cheap labor is more important than security in his mind. That is why there is so much furor over this. We now know that there are things that W will put in front of protecting us.
So why did we swallow the Patriot Act, etc.?
I used to think that W and Rove planned the whole Miers/Alito thing to get Alito in.
Now I’m not so sure — this immigration business makes me wonder if Bush really wanted Miers, and that we just got lucky that the base revolted. It was us who made Alito happen, and it will be us that stops immigration “reform” madness.
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