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North American Union: Deconstructing the U.S.
newsmax ^ | Friday, June 16, 2006 | Diane Alden

Posted on 06/09/2007 12:17:40 AM PDT by Fred Nerks

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To: johnny7

Really? Why, because I actually think about things instead of having the kneejerk, follow the crowd reaction that has become so prevelant in FR these days?


21 posted on 06/09/2007 5:20:23 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: ovrtaxt

I’ve read so much about this I barely skimmed it. Sorry, I’ll go back and do a better job.


22 posted on 06/09/2007 5:21:36 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: beckysueb

Here’s a direct link:

http://www.spp.gov

Read it and weep.


23 posted on 06/09/2007 5:22:51 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (THOMPSON NEEDS TO CLARIFY HIS POSITION ON THE SPP BEFORE I SUPPORT HIM.)
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To: ovrtaxt

OK. And the bad points are?


24 posted on 06/09/2007 5:25:38 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: beckysueb

What, you’re pro North American Union?


25 posted on 06/09/2007 5:26:25 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (THOMPSON NEEDS TO CLARIFY HIS POSITION ON THE SPP BEFORE I SUPPORT HIM.)
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To: beckysueb
Why, because I actually think about things...

Keep thinking then... cause you're no where near to reality.

26 posted on 06/09/2007 5:32:18 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: ovrtaxt

I read the article and it seems to make a lot of sense. Its exactly like I said, would protect out borders, easier to keep out terrorists, etc. If it is exactly as written, what is wrong with the concept? And no, I am not pro NAU. I just recognize that we live in a changing world and probably need to do something different so we can be better equipped to compete with the rest of the world. If I had my druthers, America would stay the same as it always has. But I think everyone knows its not going to. Whats wrong with being prepared? Mexico has oil and Canada has huge amounts of timber and land. America is rich but crowded. Canada has a conservative leader and I assumed Mexico had elected a conservative, too. Well at least a moderate.


27 posted on 06/09/2007 5:33:51 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
http://www.amerocurrency.com/

There are already plans for a currency of the Americas.

Americans will gleefully move their portfolios to the Amero once it is setup as a strong alternative on the world market against the artificially devalued dollar.

The Feds will have us transfer to the Amero without forcing us to do so. They will lay out an alternative to the dollar in an attempt to preserve the value of investments.

28 posted on 06/09/2007 5:37:17 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: beckysueb

Here’s the whoel thing about the SPP and teh NAU.

If we return to a Constitutional model of governing this nation, we don’t need anything like this. We don’t need to sell our sovereignty and our strength for security or money.

The problem exists because our politicians refuse to fight this war to win it, like they did in WWII.

The President refuses to execute the existing laws according to Article II Section 3 of the United States Constitution— i.e. “...he shall take care that the laws are faithfully executed...”

They refuse to put the American people first instead of viewing the world through some guilt ridden globalist agenda, as we saw this week at the G8.

We don’t need this NAU. We need to get back to being Americans first.


29 posted on 06/09/2007 5:38:27 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (THOMPSON NEEDS TO CLARIFY HIS POSITION ON THE SPP BEFORE I SUPPORT HIM.)
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To: Fred Nerks; indylindy; ovrtaxt

The great danger in any sort of North America union is who or what would run it.

The answer we find is that groups of unelected bureaucrats would be in charge. This, in itself, is a repudiation of our republican representative form of govrenment. In fact, it’s the establishment of a soviet socialist style of government where unelcted bureaucrats rule by writing law, enforcing the law and judging that law.

Two recent examples of this form of government include the former soviet socialist states and the functionairies who ran fascist Germany.

Once bureaucracies are established, citizens lose the right to govern themselves through elected representatives. In essence, a dictatorship has been established. And how do citizens remove corrupt bureaucrats who are engaged in theft, chicanery and gross violations of individual rights?

The answer is 1776 - a declaration of war against the ruling, unaccountable elite.

Any North American union binding the citizens to control by an unelected elite is sowing the seeds for a future revolutionary war. Those who are in favor of unelected regional councils governing us are, if Americans, traitors, and the rest are oligarchs looking for power to enrich themselves.


30 posted on 06/09/2007 5:39:13 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Give Hillary a 50ยข coupon for Betty Crocker's devils food mix & tell her to go home and bake a cake)
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To: beckysueb

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1847431/posts?page=30#30

Read this post too. He makes some excellent points about the reality of life under the NAU.


31 posted on 06/09/2007 5:41:14 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (THOMPSON NEEDS TO CLARIFY HIS POSITION ON THE SPP BEFORE I SUPPORT HIM.)
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To: ChessExpert
Do you have a link to part II?
Though it's linked at the bottom of the article at the originating site I'll help you out...This is Part II of a three-part series.
This is Part III of a three-part series.
32 posted on 06/09/2007 5:42:01 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: ovrtaxt

Well I can’t argue with you there. But you and I both know they won’t. Bush is too afraid of the liberals, and he may have a point because they are viscious and he can’t get a whole lot done. You saw how they acted when there was even a suggestion that we might have to take on Iran. They will simply push through impeachment. I think he is looking for a solution to the delima America faces.


33 posted on 06/09/2007 5:42:52 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: Iwo Jima

ping for later reading


34 posted on 06/09/2007 5:44:44 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: beckysueb

I hope they do impeach him. I’d also liek to recall Sen. Martinez.

Bush is ignoring his Constitutional obligations by not executing the existing laws. He took an oath. He’s violating it before God.


35 posted on 06/09/2007 5:45:30 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (THOMPSON NEEDS TO CLARIFY HIS POSITION ON THE SPP BEFORE I SUPPORT HIM.)
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To: sergeantdave

Your post should answer the questions for those that love Bush, more than they love this Republic.

Thank you for your post.


36 posted on 06/09/2007 5:49:01 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Fred Nerks

As an Aussie, you have been privy to extremely stringent immigration control.

Look at it this way: What if your borders were open to everyone within your proximity, i.e., all those from every Asian state and South Africa with no control over who enters.

Do you think your economy would survive? Do you think your natural resources and living spaces would survive not to mention the infrastructure of schools, courts, police and every day services like roads and garbage pickup?

Not likely. Even with our resources, we cannot absorb another 500 million people to the 300+ million we have here now.


37 posted on 06/09/2007 5:50:28 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: servantboy777

I’m sure the powers that be have plans in place. I don’t know how they plan to handle several million disgruntled armed citizens.


38 posted on 06/09/2007 5:52:43 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Is there a good workable plan that can be implemented to get us out of this mess? I mean one that they will actually do. I have read thread after thread about what needs to be done but no clue as to how to get them to actually do it. Lots of bellyaching but no ideas as to how to get it done. I think even the dumbest person in FR (and that would probably be me) can come up with foolproof ways to end this mess and get America back on track. The best two I have heard which I could get on board with are take back our party and prayer. The prayer is easy. Taking back our party, not so easy. Haven’t we tried to get good people through in the primaries and get them elected? We can’t make people vote for them. What is the solution?


39 posted on 06/09/2007 5:53:24 AM PDT by beckysueb
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To: ovrtaxt

Off to the re-education camps with you!

(Just kidding.)

I can’t believe the people here are willing to throw away the country. I think I woke up on the wrong side of the mirror and am on some left-wing, UN site.


40 posted on 06/09/2007 5:55:32 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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