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Iran Threatens Gulf States Blitz If US Hits Nuclear Plants
The Sunday Times ^ | June 10, 2007 | Michael Smith

Posted on 06/10/2007 7:28:15 AM PDT by Fennie

IRAN has threatened to launch a missile blitz against the Gulf states and plunge the entire Middle East into war if America attacks its nuclear facilities. Admiral Ali Shamkhani, a senior defence adviser to the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, warned that Gulf states providing the US with military cooperation would be the key targets of a barrage of ballistic missiles. Shamkhani told the US journal Defense News that missiles would be launched not only at US military bases but also at strategic targets such as oil refineries and power stations. Shamkhani, a former Iranian defence minister, accused the Gulf states of "helping the US establish legitimacy for its anticipated aggression against Iran". Shamkhani is the head of Iran's Centre for Strategic Studies, a think tank made up of former foreign, defence and interior ministers that advises the supreme leader...


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1 posted on 06/10/2007 7:28:20 AM PDT by Fennie
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To: Fennie
Iran has threatened to launch a missile blitz against the Gulf states and plunge the entire Middle East into war if America attacks its nuclear facilities.

That,Abdul,gives us a very strong incentive to hit more than just your nukes,doesn't it!

2 posted on 06/10/2007 7:30:20 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: Fennie
"IRAN has threatened to launch a missile blitz against the Gulf states and plunge the entire Middle East into war if America attacks its nuclear facilities."

I think he means Israel.

3 posted on 06/10/2007 7:32:23 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: Fennie

Let those carpet kissing goat herders sign their own death warrant. This is all the more reason to raze that country.


4 posted on 06/10/2007 7:32:26 AM PDT by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the drive-by media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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To: Fennie

It’s a shame we didn’t take Iran down earlier, like say, three years ago, when this first came up. The longer we wait, the more arms they stockpile, and the more bloody our conflict will be. Where are you, Mr President?


5 posted on 06/10/2007 7:32:30 AM PDT by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: Fennie

I hate to say it, but this is by far Iran’s strongest deterrent- and it’s a big one.

There’s a certain Saudi refinery- I forget which one- which is one of the most heavily guarded places on earth since it’s widely known that if terrorists took it out it would cripple Saudi oil production- apparently Saudi oil needs some kind of special treatment before shipping.

A refinery like that would be a model target for medium range missiles like Iran has.


6 posted on 06/10/2007 7:41:22 AM PDT by MittFan08 (Anybody but McCain)
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To: stm

Your not being very PC with those kinds of words describing those nice people. Even though they are a bunch of goat f’ers.


7 posted on 06/10/2007 7:42:10 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Fennie

If the rest of the Middle East is smart. (No they arent ,unfortunately) They would realise that Iran is not their fiend, and join to see that a new regime replaces the current one. Unfortunately they see the US as the problem,when they are their own worst enemies.


8 posted on 06/10/2007 7:43:04 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I'm gonna vote for Fred. John Bolton for VP.)
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To: SJackson; jveritas; FARS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; knighthawk; Marine_Uncle; SandRat; Steel Wolf; ...

Sturm und Drang - more Iranian threats ping.


9 posted on 06/10/2007 7:47:31 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda knows Iraq's strategic value, yet the Democrats work day and night for our defeat there.)
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To: jim35
It’s a shame we didn’t take Iran down earlier, like say, three years ago, when this first came up. The longer we wait, the more arms they stockpile, and the more bloody our conflict will be. Where are you, Mr President?

You are correct.

We have waited far too long. Letting the Europeans waste time engaging in endless political prattle with the Iranians --- the same Europeans who were then openly mocked by the Iranians for their naivete --- was foolish on our part.

10 posted on 06/10/2007 8:06:14 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Fennie

wouldn’t Iran just love to have an excuse to damage the oil producing capacity of its neighbors, and be the sole oil producing state in the ME for a while?
I wonder how their neighbors would take it.


11 posted on 06/10/2007 8:08:39 AM PDT by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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To: Mom MD

This is gong to happen at some point, let’s just get it on now.


12 posted on 06/10/2007 8:10:22 AM PDT by freebird5850
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To: stm

I say make a beech out of the entire country.


13 posted on 06/10/2007 8:10:49 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: freebird5850

I’m all for that, but if we do hit Iran, it will be fairly limited.

Iran and Russia will lead the coalition that will soon attack Israel, and this cannot happen if they are destroyed. If we do do anything, it will just be a flesh wound, unfortunately.


14 posted on 06/10/2007 8:14:37 AM PDT by Mom MD (The scorn of fools is music to the ears of the wise)
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To: gulfcoast6

“I say make a beech out of the entire country.”

It could be called “Sonova Beech”.


15 posted on 06/10/2007 8:17:11 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: Fennie

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=4275


16 posted on 06/10/2007 8:37:10 AM PDT by Fennie
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To: Fennie

Paranoia on the state level.


17 posted on 06/10/2007 8:41:26 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: gulfcoast6

“I say make a beech out of the entire country.”
You want to turn them into a tree?


18 posted on 06/10/2007 8:57:25 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Fennie
“The objective would be to overwhelm US missile defence systems with dozens and maybe hundreds of missiles fired simultaneously at specific targets.”

This is likely their first strike strategy as well as a "defensive" strategy. Odd that the press isn't concerned in the least with this threat to destroy countries that have not done anything except pursue their own, independent foreign policies. At the same time, Bush's failure to use the proper honorific in replying to the Pope is headline news.

19 posted on 06/10/2007 9:21:11 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Fennie
It may be tough to take on Iran because of the oil situation, but we can hold Jimmy Carter responsible for the murder death and misery he caused tomorrow. And that wouldn’t hurt anything now would it?
20 posted on 06/10/2007 9:23:38 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: jim35

President Bush is in Mexico selling out our sovereignty... thats where he is.


21 posted on 06/10/2007 9:39:50 AM PDT by RachelFaith
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To: Fennie

Okay, so if the US doesn’t get Iran’s nukes in order to avoid attacks, then Iran can attack later, with nukes.

Makes so much sense.


22 posted on 06/10/2007 9:45:16 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen; All; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; 68skylark; AdmSmith; ...

Nope. He means everyone but more precisely Saudi Arabian oil fields. Prince Bandar, future Saudi ruler, is suddenly being vilified by us for making nice with Iran - which is his best interest as Iran can wipe out Saudi oil fields and those of other Persian Gulf states.

All are within easy range and Iran has ample missiles to achieve this.

Israel would be on the list with nuclear missiles, since Iran DOES HAVE about SIX nuclear warhead missiles on Shahab 3 rockets. These have been imported and cobbled together with Ukranian fissionable materials and North Korean technology.

The normal difficulty of vibration of the nose cones has been tested and overcome, so they are ready to go - possibly reaching into Eastern Europe but more likely aimed at Israel and perhaps American targets in reach.

Iraq is in reach. All of it.

As someone said, this provides even greater reason to hit more than just nuclear sites. I believe we have a target list of 5,000 locations, which include most of the military attack and support bases of the Revolutionary Guards (IRGC). Our first strike would likely be to remove their air and naval and missile capability. The nukes can wait for the second wave.

Lest we forget, we are not dealing with rational foes but with the Ahmadi-Nejad “Hojatieh” sect philosophy of the greater the destruction everywhere the more likely the darling 12th Imam is to return after 1,300 years out of the Jamaran well down which he disappeared and redeem the world.

Thus attacking anyone and everyone within reach is not only permissable but a duty. Death of non-combatants in all the Gulf states is irrelevant. Unlike us trying to avoid attacking because of possibly (certainly) harming innocent citizenry inside Iran, the Hojatieh demand this kind of destruction.

This attitude by them of maximum retribution and their ability to destroy major oil fields in the region and inside iraq has so far kept us from attacking Iran. There may now come a point where the utter damage to availability of oil from the Middle East region becomes less of a hazard than allowing Iran to develop and produce nuclear weapons, link their Hojatieh mind set to encouraging Islamic terrorism globally and thus basically destroying the Western world and culture as we know it. Much sooner than we complacently sit and think.

Islamic Iran is a flesh eating “bacteria” that can kill the western world very rapidly as other “infections” by Islamic Jihadists will speed the death process. As will the side effect sickness of the collapse of the world economy help to hasten the end.

We, as surgeons/doctors of world health can either do major “surgery” now and put up with the pain and suffering that we know will result or become incurably infected ourselves and die along with the patient.

The only survivor would be the flesh eating bacteria in an ever more virulent form.

http://www.antimullah.com will be posting this and a survival tips article in the next few days.

Retaliation will also take place in the USA and Europe (and other American targets around the world) so we can expect some suiciders in our malls, IED (explosive devices) along our freeways and a dirty bomb or two.Plus a crash of our electricity networks and as the Chinese have shown, contamination of our food supplies.

This is no joke, folks and part of the reason for the survival tips coming up soon. Somewhat like for earthquakes only a need for more prolonged capability to continue in a nation where communication, supply lines and channels etc., all become seriously disrupted or in some case useless.

The very dangers outlined should be considered reasons for an attack rather than shirking away and allowing an even worse result in the very near future when the bacteria become a thousand times more virulant with their nuclear capability.


23 posted on 06/10/2007 10:21:55 AM PDT by FARS
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“You want to turn them into a tree?”

My vote is for olive trees.


24 posted on 06/10/2007 10:23:46 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: jim35
It?s a shame we didn?t take Iran down earlier, like say, three years ago, when this first came up. The longer we wait, the more arms they stockpile, and the more bloody our conflict will be. Where are you, Mr President?

He is hiding under the skirts of his political advisors who tell him he can't take any more PR hits like Iraq and Immigration...so he is letting IRAN fester and boil out of basic political cowardice...and he was once brave, but he's been beaten.
25 posted on 06/10/2007 10:25:36 AM PDT by Vinomori
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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26 posted on 06/10/2007 10:26:55 AM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: sgtbono2002; All

They are not that stupid. They know Iran is not a friend but what are they going to do about it - other than become vassals of Ahmadi-Nejad and his Hojatieh.


27 posted on 06/10/2007 10:27:54 AM PDT by FARS
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To: FARS

Iran DOES HAVE about SIX nuclear warhead missiles on Shahab 3 rockets.

Where is that info at?


28 posted on 06/10/2007 10:33:53 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Fennie
Shamkhani told the US journal Defense News that missiles would be launched not only at US military bases but also at strategic targets such as oil refineries and power stations.

So they will gladly kill innocent Muslims. Their entire mindset is terroristic in character. The sooner we put an end to Islam's aggression against the West, the better.

29 posted on 06/10/2007 10:35:27 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: gulfcoast6; headsonpikes

I think that until people learn how to spell and make coherent sentences, we should not advocate nuking an entire country. I’m just saying...

HOP, how are you doing, long time no chat.


30 posted on 06/10/2007 10:35:35 AM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: FARS

Yes, I know.


31 posted on 06/10/2007 10:37:03 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: MittFan08
The Iranians understand power. If they think they can deter us from an attack by threatening thousands of attacks around the globe, in the US, Europe and the Gulf, they will use that threat, and hope it works. However, if we let them know that responses of that sort will be met, not with handwringing, but with a sustained campaign of punishment, that takes out 100 valuable targets for every 1 that the Iranians attack, they will either not retaliate, or their retaliation will be short lived.

A fusillade of missiles aimed at oil interests in the gulf would be met with destruction of Military facilities around Iran, and the headquarters of the mullahs, and the headquarters of the oil production entity. If they persist, bridges, roads, key buildings, homes of high-level leaders, and so on, get taken out, day after day after day. Clinton was the 2nd worst President in history, but one thing he showed in Serbia was that an air campaign like this can eventually force even a strong willed opponent to give in. We can pound them relentlessly as long as we want, and for every little gnat-like nick they make on our ass, we can remove limbs and internal organs. They are pussies at heart; they will cave.

32 posted on 06/10/2007 10:37:18 AM PDT by Defiant (This war would be over in one week if Harry Truman was CIC.)
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To: jim35

“It’s a shame we didn’t take Iran down earlier, like say, three years ago, when this first came up. The longer we wait, the more arms they stockpile, and the more bloody our conflict will be. Where are you, Mr Preside’

Oh come on, this is nothing like the immediate importance of letting tens of millions of turd world lawbreakers become legal permanent residents on the path to citizenship.


33 posted on 06/10/2007 10:37:45 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: Fennie

The gift from Jimmah Carter that keeps on giving /sarc.


34 posted on 06/10/2007 10:40:26 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Defeat the traitor McCain for President. Job #1.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
My vote is for olive trees.

The Bible promises us our own "vine and fig tree"

35 posted on 06/10/2007 10:42:57 AM PDT by null and void (Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find its seeds were watered with American blood)
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To: Fennie
Does he really think we would leave his missile sites intact? If we were to attack his nuclear facilities I am sure our military would be smart enough to also hit his means to strike back. We do not still have Jimmy Carter to mess up our military./p>
36 posted on 06/10/2007 10:46:39 AM PDT by John D
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To: TomasUSMC; FARS
Iran DOES HAVE about SIX nuclear warhead missiles on Shahab 3 rockets. ~ FARS

Where is that info at? ~ TomasUSMC

I'm not all that fussed. N. Korea had one too.

Only when they went to test it, it went fart instead of BOOM!

37 posted on 06/10/2007 10:47:01 AM PDT by null and void (Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find its seeds were watered with American blood)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
I think he means Israel.

I don't think I'm-a-dim-nutjob knows there is a difference.

38 posted on 06/10/2007 10:50:03 AM PDT by null and void (Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find its seeds were watered with American blood)
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To: FARS
You are right that the cancer must be excised soon and the sooner the better before it can metastasize further to destroy the body of civilization.
39 posted on 06/10/2007 10:50:44 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Mom MD
wouldn’t Iran just love to have an excuse to damage the oil producing capacity of its neighbors, and be the sole oil producing state in the ME for a while?
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For a while. Probably about two minutes, it would be about that long before we took out all of their producing capabilities.
40 posted on 06/10/2007 10:52:00 AM PDT by John D
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To: null and void

I have to agree. To him it doesn’t matter - the 12th imam thing.


41 posted on 06/10/2007 10:52:48 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: FARS; _Jim
Comments: Lest we forget, we are not dealing with rational foes but with the Ahmadi-Nejad “Hojatieh” sect philosophy of the greater the destruction everywhere the more likely the darling 12th Imam is to return after 1,300 years out of the Jamaran well down which he disappeared and redeem the world.

Real redeemers wait in Heaven, not in The Pit.

Islamic Iran is a flesh eating “bacteria”

You are being too harsh on necrotizing fasciitis.

The only survivor would be the flesh eating bacteria in an ever more virulent form.

The patient dies, the infection dies.

Retaliation will also take place in the USA and Europe (and other American targets around the world) so we can expect some suiciders in our malls, IED (explosive devices) along our freeways and a dirty bomb or two.

Crap. My Darling Daughter is flying to Oz next week.

Plus a crash of our electricity networks

I have it on Good Authority that "the Grid" simply cannot be taken down. underscoreJim will be more than happy to explain this in excruciating detail.

This is no joke

I'm not laughing.

42 posted on 06/10/2007 10:53:30 AM PDT by null and void (Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find its seeds were watered with American blood)
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To: Nuc1
Jimmah's feeeeeeelings and maybe Habitat for Humanity...
43 posted on 06/10/2007 10:58:10 AM PDT by null and void (Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find its seeds were watered with American blood)
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To: FARS
Iraq is in reach. All of it.

We know. ;-)

Bright lights! Bright lights!

44 posted on 06/10/2007 11:04:10 AM PDT by Allegra (Socks.)
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To: Allegra

Daylight strobes?


45 posted on 06/10/2007 11:09:03 AM PDT by null and void (Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find its seeds were watered with American blood)
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To: FARS

Don’t know how I made this ping list, but keep me on it. Thanks for clarification in several regards.


46 posted on 06/10/2007 11:12:27 AM PDT by Issaquahking (Illegals kill more than al Quaida, thanks to the president,congress, and senate for ruining the USA!)
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To: Fennie

Thank you Mr Clinton, Bernie Swartz, and Loral Space (RIP).


47 posted on 06/10/2007 11:13:58 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (Ask any farmer... Good fences make good neighbors.)
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To: TomasUSMC; All

Iranian nuclear and fissionable material has been common knowledge in the intel community for several years and verified on the ground. They have watched the capability become lethal in the last 18-months or so with rocket development and solid fuel capability.

Not everything is printed in the drive-by media or sourced for editorial pleasure.

If you have contacts in the intel community just ask around. Simply not made public. Nor does it suit the MSM (main stream media to disclose this if they heard about it) and somewhat “old news”, too. Other than the progression.

Focus has been on Iran’s home made capability not half a dozen existing and quickly expended missiles.

Original capability has been posted on http://www.antimullah.com for quite a while. Check out the Archive Details to find the article. Slightly dated now but still useful focus.


48 posted on 06/10/2007 11:14:17 AM PDT by FARS
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


49 posted on 06/10/2007 11:16:26 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: null and void; All

“The patient dies, the infection dies.”

Not in this case. The bodies of third world countries that can survive at a very basic level of daily life will continue to nourish and spread the bacteria.

As I said, not a normal situation within our usual thinking/analytic standards :-)) we are dealing with the lunatic Hojatieh and Islamic Jihadists who live by 14th century rules and lifestyles. Those people will survive as they are still mostly hunter gatherers of yore. Except among some of their elite.


50 posted on 06/10/2007 11:20:39 AM PDT by FARS
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