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Lieberman favors military strike on Iran
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Posted on 06/10/2007 9:11:32 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Lieberman favors military strike on Iran

10 minutes ago

Sen. Joseph Lieberman (news, bio, voting record) said Sunday the United States should consider a military strike against Iran because of Tehran's involvement in Iraq.

"I think we've got to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq," Lieberman said. "And to me, that would include a strike over the border into Iran, where we have good evidence that they have a base at which they are training these people coming back into Iraq to kill our soldiers."

The U.S. accuses Iran of fostering terrorism and Tehran's nuclear ambitions have brought about international reproach.

Lieberman, the Democratic nominee for vice president in 2000 who now represents Connecticut as an independent, spoke of Iranians' role in the continued violence in Iraq.

"By some estimates, they have killed as many as 200 American soldiers," he said. "Well, we can tell them we want them to stop that. But if there's any hope of the Iranians living according to the international rule of law and stopping, for instance, their nuclear weapons development, we can't just talk to them.

"If they don't play by the rules, we've got to use our force, and to me, that would include taking military action to stop them from doing what they're doing."

Lieberman said much of the action could probably be done by air, although he would leave the strategy to the generals in charge

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gwot; iran; iraq; lieberman
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1 posted on 06/10/2007 9:11:36 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Man, the Dems must hate him now..


3 posted on 06/10/2007 9:14:17 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: Sub-Driver

Lieberman will need to recruit his own strike force. The Bush administration is as dead-in-the-water as the immigration bill.


4 posted on 06/10/2007 9:14:46 AM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: Sub-Driver

Would that we had 200 other Democrats in Congress just like him....


5 posted on 06/10/2007 9:16:04 AM PDT by RachelFaith
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To: Sub-Driver

William Kristol’s suggestion to make Lieberman SecDefense after Rumsfeld, instead of Gates seems to make more and more sense. I certainly wouldn’t mind having Lieberman as SecDef.


6 posted on 06/10/2007 9:17:24 AM PDT by SolidWood (3,184 terrorists killed since January 2007)
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To: Sub-Driver

Lieberman is the last voice of common sense left in the Democrat party.


7 posted on 06/10/2007 9:17:26 AM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: operation clinton cleanup

“Lieberman is the last voice of common sense left in the Democrat party.”

The sad thing is he could only win as an independent!


8 posted on 06/10/2007 9:18:24 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

Well... Lieberman is independent now. There is no common sense left in the Democrat party anymore.


9 posted on 06/10/2007 9:18:37 AM PDT by SolidWood (3,184 terrorists killed since January 2007)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Lieberman is was the last voice of common sense left in the Democrat party.

Fixed it for you :)

10 posted on 06/10/2007 9:18:56 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: SJackson; jveritas; FARS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; knighthawk; Marine_Uncle; SandRat; Steel Wolf; ...
Lieberman "strike Iran" for killing Americans in Iraq ping.

Joe's been reading my posts.

11 posted on 06/10/2007 9:19:59 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda knows Iraq's strategic value, yet the Democrats work day and night for our defeat there.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Way to go JOE: Or should be aptly re-named “Super Joe”- (as opposed to the “average joe ;)”)!


12 posted on 06/10/2007 9:20:32 AM PDT by JSDude1
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To: conserv8ive1

Lieberman is correct, but he should keep his mouth shut. His statement just tipped off the Iranians about our knowledge of their training camp. There goes the element of surprise.


13 posted on 06/10/2007 9:20:47 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: pnh102; GovernmentIsTheProblem; SolidWood

Thanks, I stand corrected!


14 posted on 06/10/2007 9:21:21 AM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Sub-Driver

Good for Lieberman.

You can only pretend for so long that Iran is not intervening in Iraq, training terrorists, supplying them with weapons, and giving them support and a safe haven. We “have no evidence” that this is government supported.

Sure. That was clinton’s favorite phrase, after he had finished shredding the evidence: “There is no evidence!”

The Taliban and Saddam thumbed their noses at us because from the days of Carter to the days of Clinton, we demonstrated that we were reluctant or apparently afraid to strike back when we were attacked. They learned their lesson and there was a general increase in respect for our country among the Muslims.

But they heard our media, they heard the Euros and the Democrats calling for surrender, and when Bush failed to follow up, they grew increasingly bolder.

Now Bush has made it perfectly clear, through statements by Gates and Rice, that he doesn’t intend to do a thing about Iran. What kind of stupidity is that? Instead of walk softly and carry a big stick, it’s carry a big stick but tell the enemy you don’t plan to use it under any circumstances.

The peaceniks and the MSM will continue to treat him as a warmonger, yet he seems reluctant to finish up the job he started.


15 posted on 06/10/2007 9:22:09 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cardinal4
The KOSsacks and DU’ers will be putting on their Kristalnacht t-shirts again...
16 posted on 06/10/2007 9:23:41 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: docbnj

http://billroggio.com/archives/2007/06/us_finds_karbala_pjc.php


17 posted on 06/10/2007 9:23:42 AM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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To: johnny7

How ya, doin’ Johnny? Long time..


18 posted on 06/10/2007 9:24:28 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: docbnj
hist statement just tipped off the Iranians about our knowledge of their training camp. There goes the

Huh? Excuse me, but this is nonsense. If you are referring to satellite images of Iranian training facilites for the Karbala attack which killed 5 US soldiers: "Aviation Week and Space Technology" (http://billroggio.com/) published this information. The Iranians already know that we know their training facility. Lieberman didn't blew anything.

19 posted on 06/10/2007 9:24:58 AM PDT by SolidWood (3,184 terrorists killed since January 2007)
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To: Sub-Driver
"I think we've got to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq," Lieberman said

Agree completely, Joe. Unfortunately those who make the decisions are too frightened of the possible reaction of "the Islamic street" to take the appropriate action. Hell, they haven't even had the guts to go after that terrorist al-Sadr. ....for the same reasons. "Hearts and minds" bullsh/t.

20 posted on 06/10/2007 9:25:20 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Sub-Driver
After the last election, my former friend and colleague, Joe Lieberman, is certain that he can continue to be reelected to the Senate from Connecticut as long as he draws breath and has a pulse. He is equally certain that he is NEVER going to be considered for any job more important than Senator.

As a result, Joe has become an honest man, again. He is saying what he knows and thinks, and he's a fairly bright guy. That does not salvage his reputation, in my mind, for his lies to protect Bill Clinton, and his lies to fit in with Al Gore. But it does guarantee that he will be worth listening to, for the balance of his Senatorial career.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Feudin' Banjos 'n Writin' Laws"

21 posted on 06/10/2007 9:26:21 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please visit www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: docbnj

I wouldn’t be surprised if Iran has sent videos of the camp directly to the CIA just to taunt them. “Unmarked” but no doubt where it’s from.


22 posted on 06/10/2007 9:27:31 AM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Sub-Driver

If some of the “republican” senators like Collins and others had the convictions of Joe Lieberman the country might have a chance.


23 posted on 06/10/2007 9:28:26 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: cardinal4
Doin’ good... but I’m worried about this amnesty bill getting resurrected.
24 posted on 06/10/2007 9:37:44 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Phlap

Susan (Collins) is no Joe (Lieberman), but Collins supported Lieberman in his Senate re-election bid last November, and Lieberman has made in clear he is going to support Susan Collins when her term representing Maine in the U.S. Senate is up for re-election in 2008.


25 posted on 06/10/2007 9:43:22 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Forget the fence....Build a wall from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bush won’t do this becasue he is too busy trying to F*** legal Americans with his Amnesty bill for otherworlders.


26 posted on 06/10/2007 9:43:43 AM PDT by stockpirate (All American taxpayers should claim to be illigal aliens and get forgiven for not paying taxes.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Lieberman may be a lib on domestic issues, but on defense, he is almost always on target.
his statement also shows some real courage.


27 posted on 06/10/2007 9:45:18 AM PDT by drhogan
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To: Sub-Driver

You’ll see lots of pro Lieberman posts today and we may agree with him on this point. Just remember that he is far left on most other issues and was one of the chief conspirators in the attempt at discounting military votes and the attempted theft of the 2000 election.


28 posted on 06/10/2007 9:49:57 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Sub-Driver

i just sent him an e-mail to commend his statement.

here is the link:
http://lieberman.senate.gov/contact/
he deserves our support—especially from freepers from CT.


29 posted on 06/10/2007 9:51:06 AM PDT by drhogan
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To: Eagles6

That’s exactly why I would like to see Lieberman in a position only focused on Foreign Policy, speak the State or Defense Department. He is indeed horrible regarding domestic issues, but his views on Defense and Foreign policy are top-notch.


30 posted on 06/10/2007 9:53:57 AM PDT by SolidWood (3,184 terrorists killed since January 2007)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Lieberman is the last voice of common sense left in the Democrat party.

May I add to this. Lieberman is the last voice of common sense left in the Democratic and Republican party, including the President.

31 posted on 06/10/2007 9:55:14 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Good points.

Sorry, but after I watched him whining “We just want to count all the votes” while attempting to throw out military ballots, I will never trust him again. He was involved in trying to steal a U.S. Presidential election, and to me that is unforgivable.

He, and every congressman and woman, know the U.S. is under attack from terrorists, but staying in power is more important than national security. Leiberman does the right thing in security matters, but as far as I am concerned he is no better than a third world dictator when he tried to overthrow our election process.


32 posted on 06/10/2007 9:56:48 AM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: drhogan
I may not agree with him on those Social issue, but he is still a respectable man.

Leiberman's stance was 100% in step with the liberal left on all the other issues but the War on Terror. No different, and maybe even better then Hillaryious Clinton's record (in the liberal's eyes). But the liberals called for Leiberman's head. They spent millions to defeat him. Then they send money to Hillaryious and they didn't go after her like they did Ol' Joe.

That is not respectable, by any means.

33 posted on 06/10/2007 9:57:08 AM PDT by do the dhue (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I wont - George S. Patton Jr)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

>Lieberman is the last voice of common sense left in the Democrat party.<

Better known as the Commiecrat party, though Lieberman last won as an Independent candidate.


34 posted on 06/10/2007 9:58:15 AM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: docbnj
His statement just tipped off the Iranians about our knowledge of their training camp. There goes the element of surprise.

No, it didn't. It's pretty common knowledge. And even if it hadn't been reported in the media, the Iranians must assume we know where all their facilities are because of our satellite capabilities. You can't hide training camps anymore.

35 posted on 06/10/2007 9:59:19 AM PDT by ChicagoHebrew (Hell exists, it is real. It's a quiet green meadow populated entirely by Arab goat herders.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Then why on earth is he still caucusing with the democrats?


36 posted on 06/10/2007 10:03:15 AM PDT by Perdogg (congratulations - you have just won an ipod nano)
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To: elhombrelibre

One of the FEW democrats that understands the stakes.


37 posted on 06/10/2007 10:07:31 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Sub-Driver

hey..Joe....

are..you..the..first..to..recognize..the..Iranians..are..at..w?ar..with..the..US

yup,..they..are

and..have..been..since..Carter..seeded..it

(sorry..no..space..bar)


38 posted on 06/10/2007 10:10:20 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

Actually, I heard Byron Dorgin on the Dennis Miller Show the other day, and I have to say that I was amazed at his lucidity when discussing the amnesty bill.

Well, I was pleasantly surprised.

Maybe he has Bush Derangement Syndrome regarding other issues of policy, but the guy was saying everything that I wanted to hear,...and hear out of a Republican, to boot.


39 posted on 06/10/2007 10:14:04 AM PDT by incredulous joe
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To: Congressman Billybob
Exactly right!

There is nothing the left, or especially the far left, are offering America of substance. Joe’s attitude is more in line with his heritage, Israel. He is still very left in his mindset and what troubles me is that he is not willing to caucus with the Republicans to swing the Senate. Taking on the border training an supplying camps in Iran would sure be interesting. But the war on terror is really being fought in the Senate and the MSM. A huge gain would be if the chairpersons were switch from the Democrats to the Republicans and might stop the constant BS that the Democrats are pitched our way. This constant barrage has demoralized the Republicans and their clear thinking. This loss of control of the Senate I believe has affected the President and our Government is at a total stall and is very confused. Apparently that is becoming the concept of most Americans. Unfortunate.

40 posted on 06/10/2007 10:25:19 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Maybe he should run for president.


41 posted on 06/10/2007 10:31:00 AM PDT by semaj (Just shoot the bastards! * Your results may vary. Void where prohibited.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Lieberman is the last voice of common sense left in the Democrat party.

Lieberman is a one-issue politician. He wants the US military to do whatever it can for Israel, at any time, anywhere, no matter whether or not the time is right to move for the checkmate.

I despise muzzies, too, but I recognize there are other considerations in fighting them around the world. Joementum has this as the be-all and end-all of his foreign policy. Get rid of islamunism (a worthy goal) and Joe would be as dovish as his fellow socialists.

42 posted on 06/10/2007 10:33:08 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: Eagles6

Precisely.

Remeber folks, Lieberman was completely FOR the shamnesty bill. And if he is not serious about increasing border security significantly, then he is misinformed on how to proceed with the WOT.


43 posted on 06/10/2007 10:34:50 AM PDT by kidd
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To: hunter112
Lieberman is a one-issue politician. He wants the US military to do whatever it can for Israel, at any time, anywhere, no matter whether or not the time is right to move for the checkmate.

True, but the military option must be kept on the table in a credible fashion, not just words like the rest of the Democrats seem to be in favor of.

44 posted on 06/10/2007 10:44:12 AM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: SolidWood

Then we should not be publishing that, either.

So, I stand corrected, and will let Lieberman off this time. But will you agree that we should not publicize our intelligence so widely? I would make photos of a potential target public only when we can show “before” and “after” pictures.

There are times when we want the enemy to be in doubt. Even when they are in places unknown to us, we wish them to have doubts about their concealment.


45 posted on 06/10/2007 10:45:00 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: Sub-Driver

I could handle a Thompson-Leiberman ticket.


46 posted on 06/10/2007 10:49:44 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: operation clinton cleanup

I agree that the military options must always be kept on the table, but I just wanted some sanity on the “Joe is our friend” sort of blather on this thread. He’s NOT our friend, he is just the enemy of our enemy, currently. He’d never lift a finger to save Taiwan from the ChiComs, or do anything to tick off Putin, unless the Ruskies were talking about arming Israel’s neighbors.


47 posted on 06/10/2007 11:12:20 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Joe, don’t expect any support from the neutered Bush administration.


48 posted on 06/10/2007 11:27:08 AM PDT by Memphis Moe
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To: hunter112
I would never vote for JL, he made an @ss of himself in the 2000 election, but I will give him credit for recognizing the threat we face. The idea proposed by Bill Krystol to make him SecDef is idiotic!
49 posted on 06/10/2007 11:29:50 AM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: pissant
I wonder often if some of the Republicans understand the stakes, and I certainly wonder about Europe and Russia.
50 posted on 06/10/2007 11:34:55 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda knows Iraq's strategic value, yet the Democrats work day and night for our defeat there.)
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