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Immigrants Told: It's Time To Learn English (UK)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 6-11-2007 | Brendan Carlin

Posted on 06/10/2007 7:08:27 PM PDT by blam

Immigrants told: it's time to learn English

By Brendan Carlin, Political Correspondent
Last Updated: 1:28am BST 11/06/2007

A crackdown on councils and other public bodies routinely translating documents into foreign languages was indicated yesterday amid fears that they discourage immigrants from learning English.

Ruth Kelly, the Communities Secretary, said translation had been used too frequently and could become "a crutch" which acted as a barrier to integration.

Ruth Kelly said translation had been used too frequently

The practice allowed new arrivals to avoid learning English and meant that many never did, Miss Kelly said.

"I do think translation has been used too frequently and sometimes without thought to the consequences," she told BBC1's The Politics Show.

"So, for example, it's quite possible for someone to come here from Pakistan or elsewhere ... and find that materials are routinely translated into their mother tongue, and therefore not have the incentive to learn the language."

Some councils, Miss Kelly said, were guilty of handing out money to particular ethnic or cultural groups instead of using community centres to bring people together.

A report from the Commission on Integration and Cohesion, which was commissioned by Miss Kelly to look at ways to help immigrants to integrate better, will be published on Thursday.

The commission, which has focused on fears that segregated communities have acted as a spawning ground for extremism, is likely to suggest spending less on translation and more on English lessons.

Reports suggested yesterday that councils spend £500 million a year on translation.

Darra Singh, the chairman of the cohesion commission, said: "It is important that we encourage newcomers to learn English, rather than make it easier for them to get by without. Some basic translation is useful and necessary, but we have not always struck the right guidance."

Writing in The Observer, Mr Singh said: "Where savings are made by cutting translation services, they should be reinvested in English lessons - both for newcomers and settled communities."

Mr Singh also wants more young people involved in local projects and said "we need to consider a national community service and we should not be afraid of asking whether this should be compulsory".

Miss Kelly indicated that the Government would not back a compulsory scheme.

She insisted that translation of information on access to emergency services was necessary, but added: "I think speaking the language is absolutely key. Something the commission looked at is whether we should be translating from English into different languages as a matter of routine. They are going to put out guidance \u2026 where local authorities can ask really hard questions about whether or not we're providing a crutch and supporting people in their difference."

Reports yesterday suggested that employers would be asked to pay for language courses for workers with a poor grasp of English.

But David Davis, the Tory home affairs spokesman, told The Daily Telegraph: "This issue is a direct outcome of Government immigration policy. It should be for the Government to pick up the tab, not business."

Lord Bruce-Lockhart, of the Local Government Association, accused Labour of pushing councils into spending so much on translations as part of its failed 1990s policy on multiculturalism.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: english; immigrants; learn

1 posted on 06/10/2007 7:08:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

They won’t learn english....not there, not here.


2 posted on 06/10/2007 7:13:35 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: blam

Such an odd picture, almost attractive in a “Catcher-in-the-Rye” sort of way...


3 posted on 06/10/2007 7:16:25 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: blam
From the article:

The commission, which has focused on fears that segregated communities have acted as a spawning ground for extremism, is likely to suggest spending less on translation and more on English lessons.

Reports suggested yesterday that councils spend £500 million a year on translation.


Un-freakin' believable.

4 posted on 06/10/2007 7:54:09 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( “A nation without borders is not a nation.” —Ronald Reagan)
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To: blam
Hey, I have a better idea; How about they crackdown on deportation starting with the Muzzie pond scum?


5 posted on 06/10/2007 7:54:43 PM PDT by Screamname (On this date in history; Al Gore invents the Algorithm)
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To: blam

6 posted on 06/10/2007 7:57:18 PM PDT by Sender (I know I left my country around here somewhere. Reward if found.)
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To: Sender
What, no Klingon?


7 posted on 06/10/2007 8:02:59 PM PDT by SquirrelKing ("Ocean in view! O! The joy!" - William Clark, December 3rd, 1805)
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To: Sender
"I know I left my country around here somewhere. Reward if found."

I hate to break this to you, but that black stretch limousine with the personalized "Call Me Master" Washington DC plates just ran over your country. At first I thought it might live but then the limo came back and ran over it again.

8 posted on 06/10/2007 8:20:17 PM PDT by Nova
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I can’t believe the English could be so cruel to these wonderful people who came only to work and help their economy!


9 posted on 06/10/2007 8:28:04 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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To: B4Ranch

No sarcasm intended, eh?? : )


10 posted on 06/10/2007 8:30:19 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Sender

I think you can take the California Drivers license test in 16 different languages.


11 posted on 06/11/2007 2:29:05 AM PDT by enots
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Me, sarcasm? Never. You should know that. LOL


12 posted on 06/11/2007 6:49:09 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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