Posted on 06/11/2007 4:21:34 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
Bush has definitely gone to the dark side on this issue.
Thank you so much for your work on this effort. You and a few others deserve a lot of credit for reminding us to lean on the Senate and the WH.
Please keep me on your ping list for this initiative.
Also, thank you for your service.
Revealing that the Executive Director of the "National Immigration Forum", which I presume is registered as a non-partisan interest group, use the term "we did our job", meaning that the democrats delivered their votes. He called his group a democratic organization.
Too bad we can't use that to get their nonprofit status yanked.
Even delaying the bill now will probably do no good in the long run. IMO the damage to the Republican party has largely been done, greatly improving the odds of Dems increasing their majority in the congress. Unless we can get a tough SOB in the WH, we are in a very bad position.
Bush is attempting to commit treason on this issue. It causes me to question his motivation in all things.
I don't spend my day imagining conspiracies and such...
..and least, I didn't...
You're saying....'follow the money'...
...but someone like Phyllis Schlafly (of whom I have high regard)...has started to connect the dots.
Why else would a so called conservative President who garnered support, adulation, respect from his base...
..absolutely turn on them and ignore them....
..... denigrate them/belittle them?
Delay/kill it now and forget the long run...the debate on both sides will likely be good for the strong anti Amnesty candidates and that is a good thing.for
No permanent Z visas. The bill currently allows renewal of the Z visa until death. There is no expiration date and the Z visa is effectively identical to permanent residency.
That's fundamentally contrary to George Bush's proposal in January 2004:
"The legal status granted by this program will last three years and will be renewable -- but it will have an end.... This program expects temporary workers to return permanently to their home countries after their period of work in the United States has expired.... Some temporary workers will make the decision to pursue American citizenship. Those who make this choice will be allowed to apply in the normal way. They will not be given unfair advantage over people who have followed legal procedures from the start. I oppose amnesty, placing undocumented workers on the automatic path to citizenship. Granting amnesty encourages the violation of our laws, and perpetuates illegal immigration. America is a welcoming country, but citizenship must not be the automatic reward for violating the laws of America."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/01/20040107-3.html
..Tuesday he goes to the Senate luncheon...
...Tony Snow thinks it will be relatively soon
I live next door in Iowa and I’ve called Hagel’s office many times. All my relatives in Omaha despise him.
Bump
Looks like my dog.
Shouldn't you be calling for help from your possee of fellow Bushbots? That's what some of your crew have been doing in recent days.
US Chamber of Commerce as part of the groups supporting amnesty.
Have we thought about calling our local Chamber of Commerce and stating our opposition to amnesty?
Stop it. You can't be serious. You think the Democrats are going to stop this amnesty plan? They're the ones who want it. They're the ones who look at every illegal as a Democrat vote. The only RATS even attempting to look like they're against this are the few that are worrying about their reelection in their districts if they vote for this.
Make no mistake about it, Republicans are our only hope to kill this permanently.
I believe Reid would kill the bill to deny Bush the ‘victory’ he wants. Yes, I do believe that. As much as dems may want amnesty, and many of them actually don’t, they still HATE Bush more.
Nope, not at all, just that their ranks are a little thin right now.
So the current understaffing M.O. is to have one or two pop into threads and start a ruckus, and then to CC the entire Bushbot possee on a post. Soon they'll show up and attempt a thread takeover, forcing you to say "Mr. President George W. Bush" in your posts.
For the most part they're bunkered down in the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread. It's like the 5th dimension of unreality over there. Shameless Bushbotism, and they can't even criticize him on Amnesty because they "love him too much" (an actual quote).
There is an interesting meme they're propagating, which is that it's "our fault" (e.g., conservatives) because "we didn't give him a Congress [in 2006] which would temper his impulse toward immigration Amnesty." (That's another actual quote which I've since seen repeated by other Bushbots in other threads, as recently as Saturday)
A related variation is that it's "your fault" (e.g., people who are PO'd a GWB) because "you" didn't rid the Congress of people like Graham, Kyle, Lott, and Specter.
No matter what the twisted logic, it's entirely designed to let GWB off the hook, 100 percent.
The reality that many, many here on FR contributed substantial quantities of time, money, effort, emotion, and loyalty to GWB for BOTH elections and terms to date is completely immaterial to the irrational, unfocused, and hysterical anger the Bushbots bring with their blame game. Keep an eye open, they're still around.
One thing that really bugs me is that almost everybody says that it would be impossible to round up all of the illegals. Well, just how many do you think you could round up? It would be a start.
We stab it with our steely knives but we just can’t kill the beast.
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