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ISU "intelligent design" prof denied tenure.
Iowa State University ^ | 6/11/07 | Greg Happel

Posted on 06/11/2007 6:07:54 AM PDT by LinnKeyes2000

It seems that a prof that sees value in intelligent design theory has been barred from tenure. http://www.iastate.edu/~nscentral/news/2007/jun/statement.shtml


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christianmythology; design; intelligent; mythology; professor; superstition
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1 posted on 06/11/2007 6:07:55 AM PDT by LinnKeyes2000
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To: LinnKeyes2000

repeal the sixteenth amendment and left wing revolutionaries will be denied the people’s money.


2 posted on 06/11/2007 6:10:33 AM PDT by ripley
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To: LinnKeyes2000

All scientific theories are equal, but some are more equal than others.


3 posted on 06/11/2007 6:12:00 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: ripley

These people need to re-read Animal House- or at least the parts that apply to them


4 posted on 06/11/2007 6:21:30 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: LinnKeyes2000

a prof that sees value in intelligent design theory has been barred from tenure

Good.


5 posted on 06/11/2007 6:22:16 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: LinnKeyes2000

Can’t have anyone who doesn’t believe the secular dogma. Newton, Galileo, Bacon, and many others would not be allowed tenure into today’s narrow politicized world of science. Too many seem to be taking their talking points from T D Lysenko.


6 posted on 06/11/2007 6:33:34 AM PDT by Maelstorm (When science becomes the tool of politicians it becomes something much less.)
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To: saganite

Good-why?
Is there not not value in all thought/theory/discussion?


7 posted on 06/11/2007 6:34:05 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: saganite

Yea! We wouldn’t want anything to get in the way of the open minded elite would we. What are they afraid of, some one might come up with a theory that doesn’t involve a rock coming to life?


8 posted on 06/11/2007 6:40:51 AM PDT by ontap
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To: svcw

No there isn’t value to all thought and theory. Communism, Nazism, come to mind. Injecting religion (”intelligent design”) into science and claiming it has equal validity has no value.


9 posted on 06/11/2007 6:41:57 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: ontap

What you call open mindedness is really an attempt by the religious elite (to turn your phrase back on you) to close the debate about the origins of life and silence any theory that doesn’t agree with the creation myth.


11 posted on 06/11/2007 6:44:33 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: ontap

I’ve been called worse. You’ll have to do better than that.


12 posted on 06/11/2007 6:45:15 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: saganite

The only people trying to silence anything are the elites on your side.


13 posted on 06/11/2007 6:46:40 AM PDT by ontap
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To: saganite

do you mean that anyone who believes in intelligent design is a part of some movement to squash scientific inquiry?

do you mean that the secular world has the market cornered on any sort of human developement and advancment?

do you mean that anyone who believes in intelligent design is ignorant and devoid of any desire to find the secrets of the universe?

do you mean that mr. pavlov’s work should be applied to the population at large (the masses) but not to your enlightened, superior mind?


14 posted on 06/11/2007 6:59:36 AM PDT by ripley
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To: saganite

This can be a circular argument for sure but my understanding was he was denied tenure because he thought it was an idea that should be discussed.
Even communism and nazism should be discussed in a historical context.
There are many scientist who believe that ID should be discussed as part of a broader picture of our beginnings.
One has to wonder why you are afraid of the discussion.


15 posted on 06/11/2007 7:02:08 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: LinnKeyes2000

Was that the reason for his denial of tenure?


16 posted on 06/11/2007 7:03:37 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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>>>a prof that sees value in intelligent design theory has been barred from tenure

There was a time when people thought the earth was flat, and everything in the universe revolved around the earth too. And anyone who challenged those premises were treated like Prof. Gonzales.

Stop living in the past...tyranny has no place in the tenure process.

Leading the call to deny tenure in this case was the avowed atheist who is/was chair of the religious studies program at Ia State. Yeah, an atheist running the religious studies program. I bet that’s OK in your world too.


17 posted on 06/11/2007 7:05:31 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Life's a bitch...don't let one be elected president.)
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To: saganite
I'm not sure I see what's wrong with seeing value to a discussion about whether:

A. Man, the Universe, and all life was created by accident or
B. They were not.

Over the course of history, quite a few really smart people believed in B. Why isn't that worth discussing now?
18 posted on 06/11/2007 7:19:25 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: LinnKeyes2000

Why should a university hire a science professor who doesn’t understand science?


19 posted on 06/11/2007 7:23:31 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Why should a university hire a science professor who doesn’t understand science?

What an idiotic statement. There is NOTHING, and I repeat NOTHING about evolution that qualifies it as "science". Evolution is a philosophy, a lens through which empirically-obtained evidences are interpreted, but which is, inand of itself, NOT empirical science. Intelligent design falls into the same category, and hence is just as acceptable, as a means of interpreting data, as is evolution. Anyone who says that evolution is "science", in and of itself, is clueless as to what "science" actually means.

20 posted on 06/11/2007 7:31:17 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Run Fred RUN!)
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