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Father found guilty of honour killing (Daughter had sought help from police FOUR TIMES)
Thye Telegraph (U.K.) ^
| June 11, 2007
| Paul Willis
Posted on 06/11/2007 11:16:43 AM PDT by Stoat
Father found guilty of honour killing
By Paul Willis Last Updated: 5:39pm BST 11/06/2007
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- Boyfriend left heartbroken by death
A father of a 20-year-old woman who was killed and buried in a suitcase under a patio was today found guilty of her murder. Banaz Mahmod was strangled in a so-called "honour" killing after her family disapproved of her relationship with her boyfriend.
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Banaz Mahmod had told police she feared for her life
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Her father Mahmod Mahmod and his brother Ari Mahmod ordered the murder because they believed she had shamed the family. A number of police officers are facing an internal disciplinary investigation over the handling of the case after it emerged that Miss Mahmod had told police four times that she feared for her life. She even wrote a letter naming those she thought would do it - one of whom later admitted his part in the killing. In footage recorded following an earlier attempt on her life by her father in December 2005, she said she was "really scared". Miss Mahmod fled home but later went back to her family and tried to carry on her relationship with boyfriend Rahmat Sulemani in secret. But when the couple were discovered and Mr Sulemani was threatened by her uncle's associates, Miss Mahmod contacted police again. She was urged to stay at a safe house but told officers she believed she would be all right at home because her mother was there. Miss Mahmod disappeared the following January and her decomposed body was discovered in Handsworth, Birmingham, three months later. Today Mahmod, 52, and Ari, 51, both from Mitcham, south London, were found guilty of murder following a trial lasting nearly three months. Mohamad Hama, 30, of West Norwood, south London, an associate of Ari, has already pleaded guilty to the murder. Darbaz Maref-Rasull, 24, of Hounslow, west London, was cleared of conspiracy to pervert justice. Ari was convicted of the charge. Pshtewan Hama, 26, also of Hounslow, has already pleaded guilty on the same count.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; england; eurabia; greatbritain; honorkilling; londonistan; murder; murdermostfoul; sharialaw; uk; unitedkingdom
Such a sickening and completely preventable waste.
Video available at the Telegraph site.
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:16:48 AM PDT
by
Stoat
To: Stoat
Multiculturalism vs women’s rights - I see who wins...
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:21:30 AM PDT
by
2banana
(My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
To: Stoat
While I agree this is a tragedy, and TROP is a sick cult. I still have to ask, why in the hell does someone that fears for her life move back in with the guy that wants her dead?
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:21:39 AM PDT
by
MPJackal
("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
To: MPJackal
Probably because they have never been taught to function as an individual in a free society.
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:29:59 AM PDT
by
SWAMPSNIPER
(THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
To: MPJackal
While I agree this is a tragedy, and TROP is a sick cult. I still have to ask, why in the hell does someone that fears for her life move back in with the guy that wants her dead?According to the article and video, she felt safe because her mother was also at the home, and police say that couldn't do more because she refused their offers of protection.
"A woman's heart is a tempestuous place"
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:33:24 AM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: SWAMPSNIPER
Wonder if her family “disapproves” of long jail sentences?
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:35:22 AM PDT
by
Red in Blue PA
(Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
To: Stoat
This is a good reason why Britain should have the Death penalty. What makes it even worse is the stupid bobbies did not even pay attention to her.
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:35:27 AM PDT
by
Shots
(If you see Known Illegal Immigrants it is your civic duty to report them)
To: MPJackal
While I agree this is a tragedy, and TROP is a sick cult. I still have to ask, why in the hell does someone that fears for her life move back in with the guy that wants her dead?
Because the poor girl thought her mom would protect her:
"She was urged to stay at a safe house but told officers she believed she would be all right at home because her mother was there."
Not an easy thing for a 20 yr old to cut herself off from her family and sit in a safe-house somewhere.
To: Stoat
Whoah, the slut in the photo isn’t even covered! No wonder they killed this total (and rather cute) disgrace to the family.
To: Shots
This is a good reason why Britain should have the Death penalty. Agreed, although it will never happen under a Labour government.
What makes it even worse is the stupid bobbies did not even pay attention to her.
To be fair, if this happened here in the USA there would probably have been no difference in the outcome because they offered her protection but she refused.
In such a situation, police have no legal ability to force a legally sane and law-abiding person to abide by their recommendations.
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:39:58 AM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: Stoat
According to the article and video, she felt safe because her mother was also at the home, and police say that couldn't do more because she refused their offers of protection.
Are you reading the same story? This portion says they are investiagating some of the officers for not doing their job
"A number of police officers are facing an internal disciplinary investigation over the handling of the case after it emerged that Miss Mahmod had told police four times that she feared for her life". "
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:41:48 AM PDT
by
Shots
(If you see Known Illegal Immigrants it is your civic duty to report them)
To: Stoat
What I find peculiar about this is that the Brits bothered to find them guilty of murder. It is the logical extension of their multicultural capitulation to the Muslims.
How far of a leap of [perverted] logic is it to go from banning pinup girls on Brit fighters to letting the muzzies practice their religion killing wayward adult children? No very far at all.
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:44:13 AM PDT
by
ChildOfThe60s
(If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
To: 2banana
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:44:55 AM PDT
by
tioga
(Fred Thompson for President.)
To: Shots
This portion says they are investiagating some of the officers for not doing their jobAnd if the investigation shows that mistakes were made, I hope that the appropriate punishments are meted out. An investigation is standard procedure in such a situation and is not a declaration of guilt.
A legally sane and law-abiding person has the last word in matters such as this.
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:45:08 AM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: MPJackal
Happens all the time in situations where there is domestic violence. (not just to women)
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:46:10 AM PDT
by
Jaded
("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
To: Stoat
She was urged to stay at a safe house but told officers she believed she would be all right at home because her mother was there.This tragedy is not the fault of the police. They didn't have any legal reason to take her father or uncle into custody, or charge them with any crime. She should have taken their advice and stayed away from the murderous bastards; maybe she'd be alive today. Her poor mother obviously didn't have any control over the situation.
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:46:33 AM PDT
by
SuziQ
To: 2banana
Just ‘google’ the ISA family of St.Louis to see our own version.....
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:47:05 AM PDT
by
litehaus
(A memory tooooo long)
To: Stoat
Mahmod Mahmod = Mohammed Mohammed.
An article posted here a few days ago said that if you take into acount about 16 or 17 different spellings, Mohammed is now the second most popular boy’s name in England.
I pointed out that there were actually more different spellings than the ones the article listed, including Mehmet and Mehmed. I think that Mahmod is yet another, at least it’s the first I’ve noticed it. It wouldn’t surprise me if Mohammed was already top of the list. And maybe soon Mohammed will pass Smith as the most popular last name, too.
Going to be hard to look people up in the phone book when everyone in the country is named Mohammed M. Mohammed.
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:47:08 AM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: SuziQ
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:47:18 AM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: Shots
What makes it even worse is the stupid bobbies did not even pay attention to her.Contrary to the impression given by the thread title, the police DID offer her help, and she refused it.
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:48:06 AM PDT
by
SuziQ
To: Shots
It’s probably standard operating procedure to ‘launch an investigation’ if there is a media outcry about the story. But it sounds like the police did all that they could legally do. Of course, that won’t stop some in the media from screaming about them.
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:49:56 AM PDT
by
SuziQ
To: SuziQ
Contrary to the impression given by the thread title,Thle impression conveyed is of course dependent upon the reader. It was intended to illustrate that it was an ongoing concern and not a spur of the moment crime. There is only so much that can be done with the severely limited amount of space made available for posts.
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:51:12 AM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: Stoat
Coming to America.
I am disgusted everytime I see these vermin walking my streets with their women shrouded following behind them like chattel.
They already have their own big piece of the world...they are not welcome here....at least not by me unless we owe them sanctuary.
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posted on
06/11/2007 11:51:56 AM PDT
by
wardaddy
(on parole)
To: Stoat
Lest anyone glosses over the fact, a “father” killed his own daughter and stuffed her body in a suitcase and buried it under the family’s patio.
This is satanic sick.
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posted on
06/11/2007 12:00:54 PM PDT
by
Obadiah
To: Obadiah
Lest anyone glosses over the fact, a father killed his own daughter and stuffed her body in a suitcase and buried it under the familys patio.This is satanic sick.
Agreed, and let's also not forget that it's quite a popular cultural practice in a very large part of the world, which further illustrates the fact that some cultures are indeed demonstrably better than others....something that the Left would prefer that people not believe....."All cultures are equally valid" and all that rot.
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posted on
06/11/2007 12:05:47 PM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: wardaddy
I guess if the Moooo’s don’t wear a wife beaters t-shirt then NOW and fee-male polidiots & presstitutes don’t care that they treat women worse than livestock......
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posted on
06/11/2007 12:05:50 PM PDT
by
Squantos
(Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
To: Obadiah
This is satanic sick. Islam=Submission
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posted on
06/11/2007 12:13:14 PM PDT
by
wardaddy
(on parole)
To: Stoat
Savages!
Wait,....the President is addressing this, he has a message. Listen,...
OK, Never mind. It’s just his Religion of Peace bullshit AGAIN.
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posted on
06/11/2007 12:22:29 PM PDT
by
Gideon Reader
(DEMOCRATS: Not quite American, and proud of it! Palestinians are,...well,... Palestinian.)
To: Cicero
Why do they even bother with names? If they are all going to use the same one, what’s the point?
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posted on
06/11/2007 1:52:06 PM PDT
by
zeugma
(o o)
To: SuziQ
Her poor mother obviously didn't have any control over the situation.In numerous cases of these so-called "honor killings", the female members of the family are actually accomplices helping the killers. I recall seeing one case on Court TV in Missouri where both father and mother were tried, convicted and sentenced to death for something similar (although no executions have been, nor will be carried out, the father have died of cancer prior to his execution, and the mother's sentence being commuted...)
the infowarrior
To: infowarrior
True, but I didn’t see anything in the story implicating the mother, just the savages who actually did it.
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posted on
06/11/2007 4:35:31 PM PDT
by
SuziQ
To: All
Update: More on this from Fox News / AP
FOXNews.com - British Court Finds Muslim Father Guilty of Murdering Daughter in 'Honor Killing' - International News News of the World Middle East News Europe News
British Court Finds Muslim Father Guilty of Murdering Daughter in 'Honor Killing'
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"Her death is the latest in an increasing trend of such killings in Britain, home to some 1.8 million Muslims. More than 100 homicides are under investigation as potential "honor killings."
(emphasis added)
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"During the three-month trial, prosecutors said Mahmod's father beat his daughter for using hairspray and adopting other Western ways. Her uncle once told her she would have been "turned to ashes" if she were his daughter and had shamed the family by becoming involved with the Iranian Kurd, her sister 22-year-old Bekhal Mahmod testified.
Banaz Mahmod ran away from home when she was a teenager but returned when her father sent her an audio tape in which he warned he would kill her sisters, her mother and himself if she did not come home, her sister said.
She was later hospitalized after her brother attacked her, the sister told the court. The brother said he had been paid by their father to finish her off but in the end was unable to do it, said the sister, who testified in a full black burqa. She said she still feared for her own life.
The years of Banaz Mahmod's abuse were compounded by police officers who repeatedly dismissed her cries for help.
She first went to police in December 2005, saying she suspected her uncle was trying to kill her and her boyfriend. She sent police a letter naming the men who she thought would later kill her.
On New Year's Eve, she was lured by her father to her grandmother's home, where she suspected he planned to attack her after he forced her to gulp down brandy and approached her while wearing gloves. She escaped by breaking a window and was treated at a hospital.
Police dismissed her suspicions, and one officer, who is under investigation, considered charging her with damages for breaking her grandmother's window."
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"Her body wasn't discovered until three months later after police tracked phone records.
Britain has seen more than 25 women killed by their Muslim relatives in the past decade for offenses they believed brought shame on the family. More than 100 other homicides are under investigation as potential honor killings.
Some Muslim communities in Britain practice Sharia, or strict Islamic law.
"We're seeing an increase around the world, due in part to the rise in Islamic fundamentalism," said Diana Nammi with the London-based ."
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posted on
06/11/2007 6:49:05 PM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: Stoat
strange, the last sentence didn’t post correctly. It should read: “.... with the London based Iranian and Kurdish Women’s Rights Organization”
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posted on
06/11/2007 6:52:51 PM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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