Posted on 06/11/2007 2:04:04 PM PDT by varina davis
Edited on 06/11/2007 2:34:32 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
ROANOKE ISLAND, N.C. - Researchers believe they may be able to use DNA to uncover the fate of the Lost Colony, which vanished shortly after more than 100 people settled on Roanoke Island in 1587.
Using genealogy, deeds and historical narratives, researchers have compiled 168 surnames that could be connected to settlers in what is considered the first attempt by the English to colonize the New World. The team will try to trace the roots of individuals related to the colonists, to the area's 16th century American Indians or to both.
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They went to Croatoan, right?
Nope, Sun City Arizona.....
Go talk to the Lumbee tribe. They’ve always maintained that they were descendants of the Croatan Indians and the Roanoke Island colonists.
Just go visit the Lumberton area and Lumbee Indian tribe. That is where they went.
Hey, we found John Edwards’ “other America”...
How will they take cheek swabs from the ancestors?
I like the part about the colonists disappearing while their governor was away. Lots of us in New Jersey would like to try that trick.
Where did they come from?
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Same place the Banks ponies came from, I suppose ... shipwrecks.
Moab, Utah. Jimmy Hoffa and Elvis run a Convenience store and bait shop there.
Personal opinion is that they were attacked, either by one of the Amerindian tribes (such as the Roanoke), or by the Spanish. Otherwise, they could have written some sort of message explaining what they were doing—although they were delayed, the former colonists who have traveled back to Europe were supposed to come back.
Personal opinion is that they were attacked, either by one of the Amerindian tribes (such as the Roanoke), or by the Spanish. Otherwise, they could have written some sort of message explaining what they were doing—although they were delayed, the former colonists who have traveled back to Europe were supposed to come back.
I’m going to Croatoan
Croatoan here I come
I’m going to Croatoan
Croatoan here I come
It’s just ah...........................................
Another item I picked up several months ago was that there were 30 other European settlements up and down the East Coast besides Jamestown. All but 1 of them have NOT been studied even though it is believed their locations are known.
So, who were these people? In reading through the various histories of New Sweden, it was supposedly founded in 1638. Nothing ever mentions the raw wilderness, just how they began farming.
Even the Jamestown guys remark on the absence of shelter, as do those who founded Plymouth. New Amsterdam/New York is another curious colony. There seemed to already be European people in the area.
The Thirty Years War (1618-1648) must have been a tremendous incentive for folks to leave Continental Europe. Did hopeful colonies of early survivalist types land here, and if so, where?
Were they just light-skinned Amerindians?
I've already had one suprise by having my DNA analyzed. I traced my mtDNA (female) to an obscure Sa'ami tribe (Skoat) on the Kola Penesula(sp) and only 400 people alive today speak the Skoat Sa'ami language. They are in haplogroup 'V' and are so unique that they are described as the 'Sa'ami motif'. Benjamin Franklin was in haplogroup 'V' too.
My question is how did a Skoat Sa'ami become a Southeast Alabama farm girl (my mother)?
I don't believe at that time that Jamestown and its various plantations had more than 5,000 people. Hence my surprise at the 20,000 head count.
Ping.
Thanks. See my post #22.
I was in Virginia a few years ago, and there was some info about a colony of about 400 that vanished, and years later traces showed up of their presence.
It was along the James River, and it was all quite fascinating, but my time there and then was limited.
I think that it was near Williamsburg, but I forget now because I try to get to the area every year and things in my memory sometimes get mixed up.
Is this about that same group?
Blam, have you been watching "Most Dangerous Catch"? Check the small guys on deck who work in the cold without gloves (except when handling gear).
Also, that survival deal where the fellow fell into the water and the other boat went over and picked him up ~ he didn't have on a water tight wet suit ~ most folks would DIE within a couple of minutes in that water.
You are watching Sa'ami and Eskimos in action. A couple of times they had some Aleutian Island Russians involved ~ and they are equally hardy.
On the other end we find folks like Kevin Sorbo ~ much bigger guy ~ same race, different tribe. Then there's Reese Witherspoon.
You're thinking of James Cittie, which literally vanished, the physical settlement itself, since it was built on swampy land. The colonists didn't vanish, though, because I'm descended from one in my paternal grandmother's line.
Well! Interesting indeed! But I hope it’s not costing too much moola to do the research.
Anyway, the found the remains of the Hopewell site about ten years ago. More recently they located the remains of the earliest part of the Jamestown settlement. It was right at the riverbank, and some of it had washed away.
The oldest known settlement in the vicinity of Jamestown is that of a French Huguenot known as Jean Bo who'd settled there circa 1598 (which, BTW, is pretty consistent with the Hardin family tradition that one of the brothers went South to Virginia in 1598). The archaologists found his house. It had been made of wattle and daub. He'd plastered it with gravel to protect it from such things as Indian fire arrows, hail and depredation by bears, wolves and other critters.
All that's left is an outline of the foundation. Right around the outer perimeter is a band of gravel which fell off into the mud when his house was burned down or rotted out. This is all referenced in the Martin's Hundred book.
Interesting!
An Englishman working in the Muscovy Company trade through Archangel took a local girl who turned out to be a Saami as his bride, and descedants later emigrated to America??? Just a SWAG.
interesting ping ~P~
I think so. Is that the one where they work mainly out of Dutch Harbor, Alaska and do the crabbing? That's one of my favorites...for some reason, lol.
I read they died from starvation during a severe drought.
For what it's worth.
blam, that is just fascinating! Please tell us more.
http://www.unc.edu/depts/cmse/science/droughts.html
Enjoy!
As good a guess as any...I think the DNA will eventually reveal all though.
BTW, my dad's Y-chromosome DNA is R1b as are 90% of the Irish and 68% of all other Europeans. It is the most widespread male DNA in all of Europe. The most widespread mtDNA (female) in Europe is haplogroup 'H' (Helena), same as my son's mother. He has the most common European DNA in the family, 'R1b' from me and 'H' from his mother.
I had my DNA tested through the National Geographic Genographic Project and they're constantly doing on-line updates on my DNA lineages. It's exciting.
No, no... New Jerseyans want the governor to go away.
Between 1607 and 1620 there were dozens of ships carrying people to the colony. One of my 8th-great-grandfathers was brought to Jamestown in 1619 as an adolescent orphan and he settled in Maryland.
Which brings to my mind the question of why the Pilgrims get all the attention. Was it because my 8th great-grandfather wrote that book about Plymouth Plantation and was the Governor? Huh?
$107.50 each. Go here for details.
My whole family has done it and now my 'extended' family has begun too.
http://www.baiki.org/content/exhibit/exhbt_home.htm
http://www.baiki.org/content/exhibit/pix_women.htm
Maybe?
Fascinating, thanks for the link. It seems (from the website) as though they don’t really tell you anything about your ancestry in the past 1000 years, though? Is that right? I’m thinking about doing it, but I find little interest (personally) in knowing about such distant ancestry many many thousands of years ago, I’d be far more interested in knowing about my genetic links to peoples living in the past 1000 years, maybe up to 2000 years (much is known about my mother’s genealogy back to 1635, but almost nothing is known to our family (yet) about my father’s genealogy before 1880). It sounds like this project doesn’t deal with recent generations but only with thousands of years ago? Thanks for any info.
Don't know...interesting site though.
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Yup, it's old, old, old stuff. Now, they do have a FamilyTreeDNA section where people are using their DNA and surnames to find each other but, I haven't utilized that option and don't know much about it. I did peek once and they seem to be having a grand ol time over there, lol. You may like that part.
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