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Bush, Senators to Meet on Immigration - President Making Rare Trip to Hill
Washington Post ^ | June 12, 2007 | Jonathan Weisman and Mike Abramowitz

Posted on 06/11/2007 6:02:50 PM PDT by Shermy

For the first time in five years, President Bush will attend the Senate Republicans' weekly policy lunch today as he pushes to revive his moribund overhaul of the nation's immigration laws.

But even before he set foot in the Capitol, several Republican senators issued a terse warning yesterday: Don't expect much.

In the days after the sweeping compromise on immigration collapsed on Thursday, opposition, if anything, appears to have hardened among some senators who had once been willing to consider the deal. The bill's vociferous critics have also had a long weekend to throw dirt on its grave.

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Republicans who have been somewhat more supportive say Bush's renewed effort is not likely to change any positions.

"We're pleased to have the president up here, but it's no secret to us that he would like the bill to pass," cautioned Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.). "Most senators have pretty well made up their minds."

"We respect the president, and I will listen carefully to him," said Sen. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.). "But we all have our own minds on this subject."

The rescue mission that Bush is embarking on may well be too little, too late. Reid said yesterday that he is willing to bring the immigration bill back to the Senate floor after passage of a major energy bill, probably late next week. But he wants an agreement to limit the amendments to be considered and the time for debate, which would take unanimous consent. A single senator could thwart that demand, and Sessions suggested that opponents of the bill are not about to agree to those conditions, no matter how hard Bush pushes.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biginalbania; bushamnesty; deathofthegop; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; invasionusa; scaretactics; vampirebill
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1 posted on 06/11/2007 6:03:00 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: EEDUDE

Good article, had to be excerpted, on tomorrow’s meeting. Lots of actual quotes from named people, no snark.


2 posted on 06/11/2007 6:04:11 PM PDT by Shermy ( Kyl's flip-flop is bigger than all of John Kerry's combined.)
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To: Shermy
"What has become dead, should stay dead."
3 posted on 06/11/2007 6:04:54 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: Shermy

I attended a Madison Forum Luncheon meeting today where Heath Garret- Johnny Isakson’s chief of staff- was our guest speaker.

Keep in mind, please, that Heath is also a fellow member of Madison Forum, along with D A King- Dustin Inman Society.

Make no bones about it folks- they are hellbent and determined to get this bill through. They still want to afgue the definition of Amnesty, and try and tell us that the Dems are in control— if we don’t pass this bil— then we will end up with something WORSE. GRRRRRRRRRR!

They claim we will have “status quo”— what they don’t understand is that even status quo is better than just making these folks legal residents- they WILL bankrupt our states with social services, etc....they WILL!

Anyway- not to remember— after Heath’s 30 minute spin on La Bill— D A King was the first to address him. D A King got an OVERWHELMING applause- Heath did NOT!

ALso—VERY IMPORTANT NOTE— Heath actually discussed the SPP (Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America- aka the North American Union.)

I asked him if Johnny Isakson supported the SPP plan, and if not- what did he plan to do, to STOP it.

SPECIAL NOTE HERE!

When I did so, someone in the crowd said, “huh?”

Heath looked up and responded- “North American Union.”
He said that Johnny supported “some parts” of “SPP”....

NOTE- THIS IS NOT A CONSPIRACY! IT IS REALITY FOLKS!

I told him his best bet was to NOT support the SPP — and if there was anything he liked about the plan and wanted to implement— then he should go about implementing it in an open and honest way- SEPERATE from the SPP plan.

He answered that this was a good point.

Anyway— Just wanted to give you all the heads up— I will be writing about this whole thing later this week.....


4 posted on 06/11/2007 6:05:43 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (UNASHAMEDLY AMERICAN MADE and an AMERICA LOVER!)
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To: Shermy

Hope a nice hurricane or something prevents any such meeting which could revive that mess of a bill.


5 posted on 06/11/2007 6:05:59 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Shermy
The rescue mission that Bush is embarking on may well be too little, too late

Thank God.

6 posted on 06/11/2007 6:06:02 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: Shermy

Continue to call!!!


7 posted on 06/11/2007 6:06:11 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: Shermy

Mr. Bush has for almost 7 years now let the Congress run all over him.. They have called him names and he didnt respond. He let the Social Security bill go down the tubes. he let CFR pass, he hasnt been to the Hill. Now all of a sudden he is trying to get the United States to commit suicide with an amnesty bill that sucks right to the bone and he goes up to the Hill to make an ass of himself.


8 posted on 06/11/2007 6:09:03 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I'm gonna vote for Fred. John Bolton for VP.)
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To: eeevil conservative

“”They claim we will have “status quo”—””

This line has been spreading, I think it originated with McCain. “Status quo” bad, “change” is good, any change. A false dilemma, if you want the laws enforced, support this bill.

It’s illogical, but effective on some I think.


9 posted on 06/11/2007 6:10:00 PM PDT by Shermy ( Kyl's flip-flop is bigger than all of John Kerry's combined.)
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To: eeevil conservative
“North American Union.”

President Bush's schizophrenic behavior would sure be explained clearly by this NAU and SPP.
Would someone please abide by and defend the G.d. Constitution?

10 posted on 06/11/2007 6:11:22 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: Shermy

It is nice Bush decided to drop in, party building and maintaining the momentum I guess.


11 posted on 06/11/2007 6:12:06 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Shermy

Next he’ll be talking to the portraits at 4AM....


12 posted on 06/11/2007 6:13:38 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Sort of better than Gore or Kerry, but that's about it.........)
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To: eeevil conservative

Thanks for the update.

You might want to start a vanity thread with this.


13 posted on 06/11/2007 6:15:31 PM PDT by Gvl_M3 (Sometimes, you have to stand up for yourself, even if it doesn't look "Compassionate.")
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To: Shermy
President Bush, I could understand if you were going to the congress to ask for funding to secure our nation’s border, but to ask the congress to allow the looking away as the invasion of this nation continues......is becoming more of an annoyance, especially since we the people have been told there are forces not only inside but outside of our nation desiring to do Americans and their children, and their children’s children harm. And for our own president, to throw wide the doors of the nation and invite the vermin in to do their evil deeds, makes my blood boil, for you sir, are not obeying your oath to the people, and have trashed your oath to America and America’s citizens. To behave in the interest of another people other than this nation’s citizens is treasonous, at the very least. America’s people are saying secure our border, and then we should debate the illegal masses inside the nation, as to their ultimate determination of status. Please sir, our nation’s survival / demise is contained in the action you take.

Should your action be to speak and represent those illegally in my nation for a legalization of their acts, I shall have to use my voice and actions to oppose you.

Americans deserve better sir, than a misrepresentation of an oath, and a shredding of our Constitution. Do the right thing Mr. President and represent the people of the United States not a foreign power or a foreign people with no held citizenship. There is after-all a War on Terror to win.

14 posted on 06/11/2007 6:17:12 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: Shermy

We will only have “Status quo” If the US government chooses to not enforce the laws as currently written. I wonder what part of that they still don’t get.

I assume when Bush signed the 2006 fence bill he just told himself he doesn’t mean it or crossed his figures or something. Is so, he shouldn’t have done it in public before so many witnesses.


15 posted on 06/11/2007 6:19:23 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Shermy

16 posted on 06/11/2007 6:23:25 PM PDT by LFOD777 (In 2006, Washington spent $2.7 Trillion and ran a $248 billion budget deficit.)
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To: Shermy

This is not over yet. Bush refuses to give up this easily. It's his stuborn character. He will try to resurect it and call it something else. We have to keep our guard up. We need to keep the pressure up.

STAGE TWO is to go after the people who hire illegals. Start giving them fines and arresting them. Just catch ten or 100 of them on the nightly news. The magnet will dry up and most of the 12 million will go home by themselves.

As an adendum, we should anonymously call the IRS, people working "off the books" means taxes ain't being paid. Make anonymous fliers and hang them around the neighborhood, name names. It's time to embarras these bustards, whether they give to the GOP or Rats, we don't need them.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.

17 posted on 06/11/2007 6:25:31 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique

18 posted on 06/11/2007 6:25:53 PM PDT by LFOD777 (In 2006, Washington spent $2.7 Trillion and ran a $248 billion budget deficit.)
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To: Shermy

In addition to my disgust at WH fervent support for the ludicrous shamnesty bill, I find it appalling that THIS is what brings President Bush to lobby personally on the hill for the first time in 5 years — not a crucial issue in the WOT and Iraq, etc., not securing our BORDERS, not re-confirming the great patriot and Marine General Pace, not any number of other pressing conservative priorities. No, it is appalling that GW wants to keep pressing for the shamnesty bill. Let it die, no bill is better than this bill, by far! Build the fence properly, fund and build it across the entire southern border, act to truly secure the border and then we can debate how to deal (without AMNESTY) with the countless millions of illegals already here.


19 posted on 06/11/2007 6:28:30 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Shermy

I often ponder how life would be if the Constitution were more perfect in that the Senate was not included in the ‘Great Compromise’ and how much greater our nation would be be without this 100 person tumor, the notion is not congruent with a representative republic.


20 posted on 06/11/2007 6:28:43 PM PDT by quantim (2008 => I'll take an imperfect winner over a perfect loser.)
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To: Tarpon; All
It is nice Bush decided to drop in, party building and maintaining the momentum I guess.

I thought that was Howard Dean, Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid's job?

OHHHH you mean the REPUBLICAN Party?

Sorry, I hear it's on life support due to a RINO in the White House.
21 posted on 06/11/2007 6:28:55 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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22 posted on 06/11/2007 6:30:21 PM PDT by LFOD777 (In 2006, Washington spent $2.7 Trillion and ran a $248 billion budget deficit.)
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To: mkjessup
I forgot to close the tag

It's beginning to look like a pretty ragged GOP. And I think Rudy likes it that way. He could win without the majority vote, just the wins. Too many people in the field, need to do some weeding, starting with McPain.

23 posted on 06/11/2007 6:31:41 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Shermy
I see DNC operative Johnny Weisman is out peddling the DNC talking points on the “destroy the GOP bill of 2007”.
The Wash Compost does not even other to hide its bias anymore.
24 posted on 06/11/2007 6:34:03 PM PDT by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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To: Shermy

Dear Mr. Bush,

Are there any laws against us beefing up security on the border?

If not, why don’t we add far more security on the border now, instead of waiting for a new law?

If we already have a law allowing the construction of 870 miles of fencing, why do we need to wait on a comprehensive new law to build it?

I see there have been a few more high profile employer raids lately. Is there some reason we can’t have a whole bunch more sooner rather than later?

Since we already have a path for legal immigration and a guestworker program, why can’t we just expand these without having a new comprehensive new program?

Is there some other reasons why we don’t do more border security and interior enforcement now?

Given all the above, why should we believe that a new law will be enforced when the old ones were nearly completely ignored?

Or, could it be that you know that if we legalize the existing 20 million illegals and allow them to bring in another 20-40 million family members, it won’t matter what happens because your major goal will be achieved?


25 posted on 06/11/2007 6:35:56 PM PDT by umgud ("When seconds count, the police are just 10 minutes away!")
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To: LFOD777; Tarpon

What does it mean for our Republic, when the President of the United States, having taken an Oath to ‘preserve, protect and defend’ the Constitution of the United States, fails to secure our borders, allowing illegal immigrants, potential terrorists, criminals and misfits to flood into our once-sovereign Nation, and that same President, after much hemming and hawing, embraces a Senate bill authored by the lying, treasonous Fat Teddy Kennedy, that provides AMNESTY for anywhere from 10 to 20+ million of those illegals?

I’ll tell you what it means for our Republic:

It means The End if such perfidy is not stopped.


26 posted on 06/11/2007 6:37:16 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: Shermy
Sullivan said the president will also discuss the issue with business allies on Thursday.

Guess explaining to the 70% of Americans why he called them unpatriotic racists isn't on tap, but dealing with the people that tried to sell our citizenship for a lousy $5000 is.

"I, frankly, find it interesting that a so-called important subject they need to get to would be to pass a political resolution on my attorney general that's going to have no bearing on whether he serves in office or not," Bush said. But Sessions counseled the president to give the issue a rest. "Let this thing cool down and come up with a real enforceable system that will reduce illegality," he said. "I don't see any groundswell for this to come back up."

George W. Bush would be a better man, a better President, and assuredly better politician if he spent less time with Kennedy and more time with Senator Sessions.

27 posted on 06/11/2007 6:39:49 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: mkjessup

It also means Bush lied about the 2006 fence bill he signed ... not good on any count. The illegal immigrants are a society altering event, America cannot possibly assimilate these hordes, I suppose that is the plan. Bush, what a disgrace he has turned out to be.

If AMNESTY passes, the divorce will be final.


28 posted on 06/11/2007 6:41:41 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Shermy

Would someone please explain why Bush should be invited to the 2008 nominating convention? Whether he shows or is a no-show, he is a political embarassment.


29 posted on 06/11/2007 6:46:27 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: Shermy

I doubt that this bill will be kept alive. Both parties are interested in keeping this issue alive for political purposes. I suppose this is what to expect from the Cardinals of the Senate, who like the other Congress critters on the other side of the Capital, are only interested in protecting their backsides in the next elections. In the end the status quo remains and our laws are broken over and over again with no significant consequences.


30 posted on 06/11/2007 6:51:43 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: no-to-illegals
Should your action be to speak and represent those illegally in my nation for a legalization of their acts, I shall have to use my voice and actions to oppose you.

He already has.......

He constantly represents them.......

He's the best friend that an illegal ever had.......

Speak NOW, or it will be too late!

31 posted on 06/11/2007 6:53:09 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: LFOD777
Clearly this person has already benefited from the fine public education system of the United States.
32 posted on 06/11/2007 6:54:35 PM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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To: Shermy

An effective coup takes time to hammer out.


33 posted on 06/11/2007 6:58:31 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: elizabetty

Hopefully, the DC Chapter of Freerepublic will be out in full force tomorrow - can I hope there will be signs that have the 15 foot fence that is partially built out in San Diego, CA? We need lots of signs on the travel route from the WH to the Hill!!!!


34 posted on 06/11/2007 7:00:41 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: Soul Seeker

“Sullivan said the president will also discuss the issue with business allies on Thursday.”

Says a lot. I predict Bush will tell them it’s going to cost $10 million more now..

I hope this meeting gets a lot of coverage


35 posted on 06/11/2007 7:05:36 PM PDT by Shermy ( Kyl's flip-flop is bigger than all of John Kerry's combined.)
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To: Shermy

I saw this article earlier as well, they have a far more pessemistic viewpoint that the bill can be “revived”, hope they’re right.

It is the WaPo, isn’t it? Isn’t it?


36 posted on 06/11/2007 7:14:34 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: Shermy
"It just feels like we're closer than you might think," he said.

Man-o-Man! The WH REALLY needs to get a grip on reality on this issue.

Apparently, next time, we need to concentrate our calls and faxes on the WH as well as the senate.

37 posted on 06/11/2007 7:40:34 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("Global warming" and "Climate Change" are the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated by confidence (wo)men!)
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"I assume when Bush signed the 2006 fence bill he just told himself he doesn’t mean it or crossed his figures or something. Is so, he shouldn’t have done it in public before so many witnesses."

It's become very clear that W. was simply trying to dupe his base when he signed that bill. Just as we all suspected, it was all a ploy. Bushy could never imagine that we would all see straight through that scam, as, by chance, he didn't see any reason to provide any funding to actually build the fence. Odd, considering the billions he has no problem wasting on a variety of passing fads. He's an overrated used car salesman.

38 posted on 06/11/2007 7:42:49 PM PDT by Nova
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To: quantim
I often ponder how life would be if the Constitution were more perfect in that the Senate was not included in the ‘Great Compromise’ and how much greater our nation would be be without this 100 person tumor, the notion is not congruent with a representative republic.

Join those of us working for repeal of the 17th Amendment. If it is repealled, you'll have the answer you've been looking for.

39 posted on 06/11/2007 7:47:11 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: Shermy

KEYWORD: DEATHOFTHEGOP
Bump!


40 posted on 06/11/2007 7:50:07 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Shermy

Dear Mr. President,

You obviously love your buddy Ted Kennedy more than conservatives.

So why don’t you and Teddy take the nearest Oldsmobile and drive off into the sunset together?


41 posted on 06/11/2007 7:53:09 PM PDT by SerpentDove (George Bush says you don't want to do what's right for America.)
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To: MVV
Bush will go to the Hill with fist-full of taxpayer's money to persuade.....er bribe.....the Senators that oppose the bill.
He'll find the weak backbones and promise them anything to sway the vote.
I'm depressed!
42 posted on 06/11/2007 8:02:36 PM PDT by mickie (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: Shermy
I called both Bob Corker and Lamar Alexaner (TN) today, thanking them for their no vote, and that I continue to oppose any form of amnesty. Lamar is the one who needs the most leaning on, he was leaning toward the bill. Corker is a NO vote.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) -

am·nes·ty a noun, plural -ties, verb, -tied, -ty·ing.

–noun 1. a general pardon for offenses, esp. political offenses, against a government, often granted before any trial or conviction.

2. Law. an act of forgiveness for past offenses, esp. to a class of persons as a whole.

3. a forgetting or overlooking of any past offense. –verb (used with object) 4. to grant amnesty to; pardon.

Synonyms 1. See pardon.

43 posted on 06/11/2007 8:15:18 PM PDT by GailA (I'm a quilt-a-holic, and proud of it.)
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To: Shermy

Anyone besides me see the irony here?

What else in the last 5 years has El Presidente Jorge wanted so bad that he would do this? John Bolton? Anything?

He wouldn’t do this for anything.....EXCEPT to sell us out and legalize the Mexican invaders and invite another 50 million of the same. Un farking believable.

My house rep Ron Lewis (KY) is having someone in his office come in to New Haven tomorrow to listen to our opinions. He has already sent me a letter that politely shreds this amnesty bill in the Senate. Well, I’m going to take off tomorrow afternoon and go over to get my 2 cents in again.

Here is a thought for all of you that think we are “Bush Bashers” for the fun of it. Suppose 1/2 million of us take to the streets and behave like the illegals did recently. Do any of you think the authorities would tell the cops to let us do what we damn well please? How many of us would be arrested?

Right. A lot more than the illegals they arrested. So, what is your citizenship worth?


44 posted on 06/11/2007 8:18:43 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Shermy

He didn’t listen.


45 posted on 06/11/2007 8:19:51 PM PDT by bannie
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To: Shermy

“”They claim we will have “status quo”—””


Status quo = another immigration bill they won’t enforce.


46 posted on 06/11/2007 8:29:10 PM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: LFOD777

Just say NO to Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


47 posted on 06/11/2007 8:45:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Shermy
The only reason GW was narrowly elected in 2000, was his partnership with Cheney! That selection gave him the approval of true conservatives by proxy!

IMHO, that is why Cheney refuses to run for the presidency, because Bush encouraged him to become the 800 lb gorilla for the MSM to beat up on!

Cheney was always the true conservative in this administration, and Cheney's refusal to follow through to election, is his way of saying"Screw Bush!"

48 posted on 06/11/2007 8:46:18 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I'M WITH FRED!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, it’s NOT over! When President Bush has lunch with these Senators today, how is he going to put the ‘Fear’ into them, to encourage them to vote *for* this Illegal Immigration Bill? What is he going to ‘offer’?

This is what scares me.


49 posted on 06/12/2007 12:21:56 AM PDT by yorkie
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To: yorkie

EVERYONE KEEP CALLING OR WRITING!! They think we’ve gone back to sleep and are watching Paris Hilton, sports, etc.. Get with everyone you know and give them the phone numbers!!


50 posted on 06/12/2007 12:47:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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