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Oradour-sur-Glane - June 10, 1944 Massacre at Oradour-sur-Glane
Spartacus School UK ^ | June 10, 1944

Posted on 06/11/2007 7:10:13 PM PDT by bd476


Oradour-sur-Glane





 

In the spring of 1942, communist militants, acting independently of the leadership of the French Communist Party, organized the first Maquis in the Limousin and the Puy-de-Dôme. Marquis groups were established in other regions of France. As the Maquis grew in strength it began to organize attacks on German forces.

In the Limousin, the Marquis were led by the Communist militant, Georges Guingouin. At this time Guingouin was not supplied with any weapons. Therefore their main method of resisting the German Army was sabotage. This included attacks on bridges, telephone lines and railway tracks.

The Maquis also provided aid and protection to refugees, immigrants, Jews, and others threatened by the Vichy and the German authorities. They also helped to get Allied airman, whose aircraft had been shot down in France, to get back to Britain.

In March 1944, the German Army began a campaign of repression throughout France. This included a policy of reprisals against civilians living in towns and villages close to the scene of attacks carried out by members of the French Resistance. As one official wrote on 15th April, 1944 that the authorities "wanted to strike fear into the population and change their opinion by showing them that the evils they were suffering were the direct consequence of the existence of the marquis and that they had made the mistake of tolerating them."

On 5th June, 1944, General Dwight D. Eisenhower asked the BBC sent out coded messages to the resistance asking them to carry out acts of resistance during the D-day landings in order to help Allied forces establish a beachhead on the Normandy coast. The Maquis responded to this request and on 7th June, a unit attacked the German garrison at Tulle. The following day the arrival of reinforcements forced the unit to withdraw. The German losses were considerable, it was reported that 37 soldiers were killed and another 25 were wounded.

On the 9th June, the Schutzstaffel (SS) hanged 99 men from the balconies, trees, and bridges along the main street of Tulle. Another 149 were deported to Germany. Later that day another 67 were murdered in Argenton.

 



Oradour-sur-Glane before the beginning of the Second World War

 

The following day German soldiers began encircling the village of Oradour-sur-Glane. A unit of 120 soldiers from the Waffen SS tank division entered the village and instructed everyone to assemble in the central marketplace. Other soldiers in armored cars rounded up men and women working in nearby farms and fields.

At about three o'clock the soldiers separated the women and children from the men. They were taken to the church and locked in. Major Otto Dickman, announced that the SS knew that the village was hiding arms and munitions for the French Resistance. Dickman then told the mayor, Paul Desourteaux, to select hostages from among those assembled in the marketplace. The mayor refused, offering himself and his sons instead.

Dickman rejected Desourteaux's offer and ordered that all the men be divided into groups and moved them to various barns and garages in the village. The SS soldiers then opened fire on the men. The only ones to survive were five young men from a group of 62 taken to the Laudy barn.

At five o'clock two German soldiers entered the church and placed a large chest on the altar. They walked out, laying out a long fuse as they went, which they lit before shutting the door. A few seconds later the chest exploded. Some managed to survive the blast but were shot dead by the soldiers as they scrambled out of the bombed building. Only Marguerite Rouffanche managed to get out of the church and escape the bullets being fired by the SS soldiers. Although she was wounded she managed to hide until the Germans left the village.

 

Oradour-sur-Glane after the Germans left the village on 10th June, 1944

 

The Germans then destroyed Oradour-sur-Glane. A total of 642 people were killed during the SS operation. This included 393 people living in the village, 167 people from neighbouring villages, 33 people from Limoges, and 25 others from different parts of the Haute-Vienne. Around 80 residents of Oradour survived. This included the five men from the Laudy barn, Marguerite Rouffanche from the church, 28 people who managed to hide during the roundup and 36 others who happened to be away for the day. Another 12 men were in Germany as part of Vichy's compulsory labour service.

Local hamlets also suffered high losses. Eight children of Le Mas du Puy attended the school at Oradour. Four mothers, concerned that their children had not come home from school, had gone to Oradour to look for them. They died with their children in the church.

In 1946 the French government decided to preserve the ruins of Oradour-sur-Glane. The forty acres of crumbling buildings became a martyred village. A testament of French suffering under the German occupation and an example of Nazi barbarism.

 



Oradour-sur-Glane Headstone

 

 




 

(1) Marcel Darthout was one of the men who survived the shooting in the Laudy Barn. Darthout was interviewed about his experiences in 1988.

We felt the bullets, which brought me down. Everyone was on top of me. And they were still firing. And there was shouting. And crying. I had a friend who was lying on top of me and who was moaning. And then it was over. No more shots. And they came at us, stepping on us. And with a rifle they finished us off. They finished off the buddy who was on top of me. I felt it when he died.


 

(2) Sarah Farmer, Martyred Village (1999)

The chest exploded, releasing clouds of suffocating smoke and blowing out some of the church windows. In the ensuing chaos, the soldiers opened the door and sprayed the group with gunfire. They piled flammable material on some of the bodies, set a bonfire with the church pews, and abandoned the building.


Only one person managed to save herself from the conflagration. Marguerite Rouffanche, a forty-seven-year-old woman, had been part of a group that pushed back into the sacristy in search of fresh air. As the church burned, she crawled behind the altar and found a stool used for lighting candles. She managed to climb up and out the window. She dropped three meters to the ground below. Looking up, Madame Rouffanche saw that she had been followed by a young woman with a baby. The young woman handed down her baby before jumping, but all three were caught in a hail of machine-gun fire. Mother and child were killed; wounded, Madame Rouffanche was able to crawl into the garden of the presbytery, where she hid among rows of peas.


 

(3) Report written by an agent of the French domestic security service (16th June, 1944)

It was not until Monday, the twelfth of June, that one learned that on Saturday the tenth, in the course of the afternoon, the entire bourg of Oradour had been prey to fire and that the whole population had been shot and burned following police operations undertaken by the occupying authorities. Emotion gave way to horror and consternation when one knew with certainty that many women and children died a horrible death in the burning of the church.


 

(4) Ce Soir (22nd August, 1944)

For four years we have all lived in horror, we have all been used to hearing in low voices in our families, among friends, the sinister news of prisoners shot, whole buildings where inhabitants, chosen at random as hostages, have been savagely slaughtered, farms and their inhabitants burned: it was our daily news. Nonetheless, certain dreadful massacres which go beyond the Occupier's habitual savagery have sorrowfully made several French villages famous. The names of Chateaubriant, Oradour-sur-Glane, Ascq are on all lips.


 

(5) Jacques Delarue, Oradour (1945)

The drama of Oradour eclipsed all the other crimes of the "Das Reich" Division. The name of the martyred Limousin village became a symbol, the image of crime and of suffering, and that is understandable. But this attitude, in isolating the crime from its general context, that is to say the wave of crimes that surrounded it, the long succession of murders, assassinations, arson, and destruction, which this account has tried to reconstruct, has caused one to forget all these other crimes and made of Oradour an exceptional event, an involuntary excess due to the war, when it was only the application, more total and complete, of the daily methods of the "DAs Reich" Division.


 



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: milhist


The New York Times

CHAPTER ONE

Martyred Village

Commemorating the 1944 Massacre at Oradour-sur-Glane


By SARAH FARMER

University of California Press


...These 120 soldiers were members of the Der Fuerhrer regiment of the Waffen SS tank division Das Reich, which had been sent toward Limoges a few days before to fight the Resistance. As soldiers went from house to house, the Germans sent the town crier...to call the population to assemble in the central marketplace.

...

The SS soldiers moved quickly through town, hunting people out of their houses... driving them toward the market square.

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At about three o'clock, the soldiers separated the women and children from the crowd, herded them to the church, and shut them in.

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While the men stood in the barn... an SS solider set up a machine gun on a tripod. Other soldiers stood guard... Then, from outside, came the sound of a detonation: the signal to fire... bullets mowed down the Frenchmen.

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The Germans then covered the bodies with straw, kindling, and phosphorous and set fire to the building. The six who survived had been standing near the front of the group; they were protected by the bodies that fell on them.

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While the Germans were killing the men of Oradour, the women had been locked in the church...two soldiers came in and placed a large chest on the altar... retreated, laying out a long fuse, which they lit before shutting the door...the chest exploded, releasing clouds of suffocating smoke... blowing out some of the church windows... the soldiers opened the door and sprayed the group with gunfire. They piled flammable material on some of the bodies, set a bonfire with the church pews, and abandoned the building.

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On the morning of 11 June, all that remained of Oradour was a smoldering mass of burnt farms, shops, and houses..642 people had died.

Martyred Village

Commemorating the 1944 Massacre at Oradour-sur-Glane


1 posted on 06/11/2007 7:10:16 PM PDT by bd476
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Always remember. Never again.

2 posted on 06/11/2007 7:13:47 PM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476

Moral -— be careful to whom you surrender your country.
Moral 2 -— when your resistance fighters are communists, you screwed up somewhere.


3 posted on 06/11/2007 7:18:10 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: bd476

Wow! I need to get this book.


4 posted on 06/11/2007 7:19:10 PM PDT by true_blue_texican (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: bd476

The World At War Series had footage on this village..

Amazing that Europeans feel the Islamofascists are different somehow...


5 posted on 06/11/2007 7:23:16 PM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: gcruse

The cure was just as bad as the disease.


6 posted on 06/11/2007 7:23:48 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg

I don’t know what you mean.


7 posted on 06/11/2007 7:29:03 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Abcdefg

It was worse.


8 posted on 06/11/2007 7:29:28 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~)
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To: gcruse

Commies vs. Nazis.


9 posted on 06/11/2007 7:30:05 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~)
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To: bd476

Not interested in a crummy scuzzie Commie site. Why did you post from this site?


10 posted on 06/11/2007 7:31:58 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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Oradour-Souviens-Toi.com


Translated from French:

Oradour on Glane was destroyed during the second world war, on June 10, 1944. This village of the Limousin was the theatre of a systematic execution on behalf of Waffen S.S., making 642 victims officially. Oradour-on-Glane chart, one afternoon of June was striped, four days after the unloading in Normandy. Preserved in a state of ruin, this phantom village remains the witness of an odious crime…

Located at a score of kilometers in the western north of Limoges, the place is seizing. The whole village was preserved, the rails of the tram are still in place. Many carcasses of cars still resist rust, just like some domestic objects remained in the houses.

Several feelings clash at the time of the visit. One traverses a pilot place, a material proof of a massacre. However the ruins of Oradour still release, the charm of a village of the years 1940, a village of the countryside limousine. The provision of the buildings, frontages still debouts, recalls us what was this village, and one can then think the environment which there could be.

For the 61st birthday, this site was altered, enriched. Almost all the images can be increased, and the documents are more numerous. It wants to be to be richest possible. This site with for goal to maintain the memory the place and the massacre. Oradour-remember is a currency,…, never again, and yet…

Benjamin Corbeau, Architect

Oradour-Souviens-Toi.com

11 posted on 06/11/2007 7:54:24 PM PDT by bd476
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To: eleni121
The German SS and Nazi soldiers burned alive and shot 642 French men, women and children, all civilians, an entire village June 10, 1944 after demanding the men relinquish their weapons.

If that is of no concern or interest to you, why bother making comment.




12 posted on 06/11/2007 7:54:44 PM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476
Very sad.
However for the communists to portray themselves as "liberators" of France is pathetic. The French Communists had crippled France's war effort, especially during the fall on 1939. At munitions factories and railroads there were strikes.
While France probabaly still would have lost these were TRAITORS who should have been hanged.
13 posted on 06/11/2007 7:55:31 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: bd476
Vive la résistance! Et vive la France libre!

"...They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them."

-Laurence Binyon, "For the Fallen"

The Free French fought the Nazis bravely and well, long after the Vichy government had betrayed them. Heroes all. God rest all the martyrs of Oradour-sur-Glane.

*DieHard the Hunter*
14 posted on 06/11/2007 7:58:39 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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To: Experiment 6-2-6
Experiment 6-2-6 wrote: "The World At War Series had footage on this village..

Amazing that Europeans feel the Islamofascists are different somehow..."


It is amazing, isn't it.

15 posted on 06/11/2007 7:59:33 PM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476

I will make any comment I see fit when it appears that the posting is directly from a commie weblink. I ask again why you post this information from that link when it is available at other links?

And by the way...the commies destroyed millions of lives...as well as their partners in crime the nazis ALL OVER THE WORLD


16 posted on 06/11/2007 8:02:39 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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Church: Site of Execution of Women and Children

View of church taken in September 1944


A view of the Church taken in September 1944. The smoke blackening of the building can be seen, especially around the windows. With the passage of time much of this smoke damage has been washed off by weather action. Note the largely intact, but collapsed roof in the foreground which has come from an adjacent building (it is not a part of the church). Compare this view with that of June 1998.

A point to consider is that, if the church steeple was used to store explosives, as claimed by some people, why is it still standing relatively undamaged? It is obvious that the roof of both steeple and church have gone in the fire, but according to one of the SS reports, "The flames (from adjacent houses) had sprung over to the church, which was burned out to the accompaniment of violent explosions" (Tulle and Oradour, a Franco-German tragedy by Otto Weidinger). Quite how flames could 'spring over', to a stone built church from a stone built house and set it alight has not been explained.



OradourInfo

17 posted on 06/11/2007 8:10:24 PM PDT by bd476
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To: DieHard the Hunter
DieHard the Hunter wrote: "Vive la résistance! Et vive la France libre!

'...They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years contemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.'

-Laurence Binyon, 'For the Fallen'


The Free French fought the Nazis bravely and well, long after the Vichy government had betrayed them. Heroes all. God rest all the martyrs of Oradour-sur-Glane."



Thank you, DieHard!

18 posted on 06/11/2007 8:14:09 PM PDT by bd476
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To: gcruse

> Moral -— be careful to whom you surrender your country.
> Moral 2 -— when your resistance fighters are communists, you screwed up somewhere.

It would be timely to point out that the “Communists” in Spain fought the Fascists and the Nazis bravely and well, long before America got off its arse in late 1941 to join the squabble that became to be known as WW-II.

Very brave men and women — some of them even from America like Ernest Hemingway — fought alongside “Communists” against the Nazis as members of the Loyalists.

It would also be relevant to note that the “Communists” in USSR and the former Jugoslavia fought the Nazis just as fiercely as any of the Allies ever did, and in the case of the USSR, they took casualties on a scale that is truly horrific to imagine. And America was only too pleased to send them military aid to help fight the Nazis.

The “Communists” in France were one of several groups who opposed the Vichy government. Many gave their lives doing so — long before America got involved.

Moral #3: know your history before you spruik off about it.


19 posted on 06/11/2007 9:45:19 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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To: DieHard the Hunter

“Communists” in Spain fought the Fascists and the Nazis bravely and well, long before America got off its arse in late 1941”

Would they have done so if Adolf had not abrogated the nonaggression treaty with the Soviets that, in its secret protocols, divided up the spoils of war between Germany and Russia? You know which one I mean. The leftists and the communists were perfectly willing to let the Fascists and the Nazis have their way. Or am I just spouting ignorant non-history again?


20 posted on 06/11/2007 9:58:40 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse

> Or am I just spouting ignorant non-history again?

Yup.


21 posted on 06/11/2007 10:06:54 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I don’t think so. The commies and leftists sat on their hands until Hitler attacked Russia. You are on the wrong forum — we don’t suffer communist sympathizers lightly.


22 posted on 06/11/2007 10:09:18 PM PDT by gcruse
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> I don’t think so. The commies and leftists sat on their hands until Hitler attacked Russia.

Wrong again. The Communists fought the Fascists in SPAIN, mate — before WW-II — on the side of the Loyalists. Hemingway was there: you know, the terse American author who wrote “For Whom the Bell Tolls”? You might have heard of him...

America, by way of contrast, sat on its hands until it could no longer ignore the Axis threat. This required the Japanese to give America a sharp slap across the face at Pearl Harbor. Until then, Isolationism was the preferred foreign policy. By that time, the rest of the Allies had been fighting the Axis for a very long time.

> You are on the wrong forum — we don’t suffer communist sympathizers lightly.

You are in the wrong forum: we don’t tolerate revisionists lightly. The Communists did a good job against the Nazis and the Fascists: in Spain, in France, in the USSR, in the former Jugoslavia. Deal with it, give credit where credit is due, and move on.


23 posted on 06/11/2007 10:20:08 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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To: gcruse; DieHard the Hunter

Admit it, Diehardthehunter forgot to mention that the Communists also did a good job against the fascist American forces who invaded the people’s paradises of North Korea, North Vietnam and Cuba. American Capitalist pigs! Good thing Stalin’s boys stopped Francisco Franco from turning Spain into a hellhole like North Korea or the Soviet Union, right? Oops, I forgot, General Franco kept Spain Catholic and with a free enterprise system - what a nazi swine he was, just like Pinochet. (Sarc)

Amazing to still find communist sympathizers on Free Republic after all these years - Franco and Pinochet saved their countries from communism, which is why they are hated to this day by the Comintern types.


24 posted on 06/11/2007 11:35:38 PM PDT by Howard Jarvis Admirer (Howard Jarvis, the foe of the tax collector and friend of the California homeowner)
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To: Howard Jarvis Admirer

> Amazing to still find communist sympathizers on Free Republic after all these years

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. You can’t change historical fact by namecalling, FRiend: unless of course you subscribe to Hitler’s theory of propaganda: in a nutshell, “tell the Big Lie if you want it to be believed.”

> Admit it, Diehardthehunter forgot to mention that the Communists also did a good job against the fascist American forces who invaded the people’s paradises of North Korea, North Vietnam and Cuba.

Cuba?? You mean the Bay of Pigs fiasco, where the US Government set up and then betrayed the Cuban patriots who stormed ashore and fought valiantly and died and/or were captured, trying to knock over Castro’s regime?

The Communists didn’t even need to try to defeat the Cuban patriots: your American Government stabbed them in the back and then let them rot in Cuban gaols.

North Vietnam?? You mean that former French Colony which the American Government tried to fight by sending good men to fight and die in great big bleeding batches, while observing “Rules of Engagement” that would never allow these heroes to win? And ultimately bowed to Liberal pressure at home and hauled these heroes home, to an American populace who spat at them and called them baby-killers? And who, to this day, have never charged Jane Fonda with Treason, for aiding and abetting the enemy??

You sir are a joke, calling me a “Communist Sympathiser.”


25 posted on 06/12/2007 12:56:49 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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To: DieHard the Hunter

You said above that the communists “did a good job” fighting Francisco Franco and the Nationalist forces in Spain - that is enough to tag you as a communist sympathizer around here. Francisco Franco was a saint compared to the crazy leftists supported by Stalin who tried to take over in Spain - and you call him a Fascist. He kept Spain Catholic and with a free enterprise system and friendly to the United States.

Best reconsider your sympathy for the communists - no matter their flaws, Pinochet, Mussolini, and Franco never shot clergymen and nuns, imprisoned property owners and businessmen in Gulags and stole their property, or turned Churches into brothels - unlike the communists.


26 posted on 06/12/2007 7:20:46 AM PDT by Howard Jarvis Admirer (Howard Jarvis, the foe of the tax collector and friend of the California homeowner)
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To: Howard Jarvis Admirer

> You said above that the communists “did a good job” fighting Francisco Franco and the Nationalist forces in Spain - that is enough to tag you as a communist sympathizer around here.

That is a magnificent non-sequitir if I have ever heard one.

Using your logic, your support for Franco should be enough to tag you a Nazi Sympathizer.

> Francisco Franco was a saint compared to the crazy leftists supported by Stalin who tried to take over in Spain - and you call him a Fascist.

That demonstrates how little you know about the subject. You see, it was FRANCO and his Nacianales crew who “tried to take over” in Spain — and unfortunately they succeeded.

And it was the supporters of the Republic, the Republicanos, who tried to put a stop to Franco’s rebellion.

Franco was a Fascist, supported by Facist Italy and Nazi Germany.

> He kept Spain Catholic and with a free enterprise system and friendly to the United States.

And allowed Hitler to test-drive his Blitzkrieg before starting World War II — often on innocent civilian populations. But Franco was a good Catholic ay, so we can forgive him that minor indiscretion./s


27 posted on 06/12/2007 1:57:36 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
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