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Prius Outdoes Hummer in Environmental Damage
Townhall ^ | 6/11/07 | Matt Lewis

Posted on 06/11/2007 7:45:55 PM PDT by Valin

Interesting news coming out of the Central Connecticut State University paper:

The Toyota Prius has become the flagship car for those in our society so environmentally conscious that they are willing to spend a premium to show the world how much they care. Unfortunately for them, their ultimate ‘green car’ is the source of some of the worst pollution in North America; it takes more combined energy per Prius to produce than a Hummer.

... When you pool together all the combined energy it takes to drive and build a Toyota Prius, the flagship car of energy fanatics, it takes almost 50 percent more energy than a Hummer - the Prius’s arch nemesis.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: environmentalism; prius
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1 posted on 06/11/2007 7:45:59 PM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin

We know one thing the Prius does is increase the amount of “smug.”


2 posted on 06/11/2007 7:46:57 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: dfwgator

3 posted on 06/11/2007 7:48:50 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (I believe that's my stapler....)
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To: Valin

http://www.frybrid.com/

Free is still nice........


4 posted on 06/11/2007 7:49:19 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Valin
I want to see a Hummer CRUSH a Prius.


5 posted on 06/11/2007 7:50:36 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy, Romney & McCain = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party - Duncan Hunter, President 2008)
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To: Valin

It just won’t die.


6 posted on 06/11/2007 7:51:24 PM PDT by claudiustg (I didn't leave the Republican Party. I was purged.)
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To: Valin

This article is starting to look a bit perennial...

March 14, 2007: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1803723/posts

March 20, 2007: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1800912/posts

May 4, 2007: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1828450/posts


7 posted on 06/11/2007 7:53:15 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Valin

Blasphemy!


8 posted on 06/11/2007 7:54:14 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Valin
I think the premise is a bit weak.

Note that the environmental damage for steel production is not tallied, nor a number of other things.

And how does the original author (two clicks away) assume that all the Pious nickel comes from Ontario?

So my NiMH laptop batteries are also evil?

I think most anti- hybrid auto complaints are mostly due to Smug, and the Pious is the best, most visible example of Smug.

9 posted on 06/11/2007 7:57:24 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Valin

I have an Escape with a V6 and my coworker has the hybrid version.

I’m half way to the freeway before he even gets out of the parking lot.

It’s a dog.

The local Ford dealer here refuses to handle them at all because he doesn’t want to piss off his customers.


10 posted on 06/11/2007 7:58:42 PM PDT by Yankee
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To: mvpel

If it was run every day it’d still be funny...


11 posted on 06/11/2007 7:59:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (We are NOT a nation of immigrants, we are a nation of Americans - legal, assimilated and proud-Laney)
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To: Valin

Aside from all of that, the Prius is an eyesore. Does making the car so freakishly ugly add to fuel economy? Or is it like, “if it tastes bad it must be good for you” type thing?


12 posted on 06/11/2007 7:59:59 PM PDT by Duke Nukum (The World is Not Enough)
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To: Valin

The nickel mined for batteries has created a giant toxic area in Canada.

That material is shipped to China for processing into battery-grade material (mailing tons of earthly metals across the Pacific Ocean isn’t cheap, by the way).

The batteries are made in Japan.

Then it’s shipped back to North America to be installed in the Prius, to be purchased by preachy liberals who have never heard of Sudbury, Ontario, and will never know how their actions have ruined it.


13 posted on 06/11/2007 8:04:35 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Duke Nukum

Not as ugly as the Honda Insight, that brightly painted suppository on wheels.


14 posted on 06/11/2007 8:04:45 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Duke Nukum

“Aside from all of that, the Prius is an eyesore.”

I hear that! Yup, my least favorite auto. A Gremlin is better looking.

Soon, they will remove the side mirrors and replace the rear view with “tiny cameras”, to improve drag. I don’t think it will improve appearances much, and everyone is pretty much used to side mirrors by now.


15 posted on 06/11/2007 8:13:45 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: SteveMcKing
The nickel mined for batteries has created a giant toxic area in Canada.

Not true. The degraded environment around Sudbury occurred long before nickel based batteries ever became commerical. The modern operations there are very different, since before nickel battteries become popular.

Sudbury was widely, although not entirely accurately, known for many years as a wasteland. In parts of the city, vegetation was devastated, both by acid rain and by logging to provide fuel for early smelting techniques, as well as wood for the reconstruction of Chicago after the Great Chicago Fire of 1871. The resulting erosion exposed bedrock, which was charred in most places to a pitted, dark black appearance. There was not a complete lack of vegetation in the region, however. Paper birch and wild blueberry are notable examples of plants which thrived in the acidic soils, and even during the worst years of the city's environmental damage, not all parts of the city were equally affected.
During the Apollo manned lunar exploration program, NASA astronauts trained in Sudbury, to become familiar with shatter cones, a rare rock formation connected with meteorite impacts. However, the popular misconception that they were visiting Sudbury because it purportedly resembled the lifeless surface of the moon dogged the city for years.
In the late 1970s, private, public, and commercial interests combined to establish an unprecedented "regreening" effort. Lime was spread over the charred soil of the Sudbury region by hand and by aircraft. Seeds of wild grasses and other vegetation were also spread. In twenty years, over three million trees were planted.

16 posted on 06/11/2007 8:23:47 PM PDT by Free as the breeze
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To: mvpel

I don’t think I’ve seen one of those but whenever I get behind a Prius, I think I’m behind a car that’s been severely rear-ended


17 posted on 06/11/2007 8:23:47 PM PDT by Duke Nukum (The World is Not Enough)
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To: Free as the breeze

I like my story better.


18 posted on 06/11/2007 8:34:50 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Duke Nukum

I lane-split past a few of ‘em that were sitting in bumper-to-bumper Bay Area rush-hour traffic, getting better gas mileage than they were on my Honda Nighthawk 550.


19 posted on 06/11/2007 8:48:39 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Valin

As the saying goes, for every positive action there is a negative reaction. The only problem is that many just look at the glitzy picture and won’t see the storm cloud on the horizon.


21 posted on 06/11/2007 9:13:35 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Valin

Air Conditioning Reduces Hybrid Fuel Economy

http://www.hybridcars.com/gas-mileage-factors/airconditioning.html


22 posted on 06/11/2007 9:15:08 PM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Valin

We bought a Prius last summer. I was tired of buying so much gas and putting money in the pockets of chavez and other countries that hate the USA. We always bought American cars until 2000. We took decent care of them, but never had one that didn’t require major repair by about 80,000 mile. I asked a towtruck driver that was towing in my
buick what kind of car to buy that would last, and he said “buy a Toyota, they’re bulletproof”. We did, and that car has 110,000 on it now, with never!! a problem. I checked the repair records for the Prius and it is very good. And besides, some old guy hanging around down at the local Walmart said his son just traded in his Prius after 5 yrs for a new one and his old one had 300,000 miles on it. So beat up on the Prius as much as you like, I like mine and it gets 45 MPG in town and 55 MPG on the highway and it has all the comforts of my minivan. We are retired and live in a rural area so we don’t need a Hummer to tool around in, but I don’t mind that you have one. So please don’t run over us with it, you may be crushing a fellow conservative freeper.


23 posted on 06/11/2007 9:16:56 PM PDT by chronicles
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To: Valin
The Toyota Prius... The "Yugo" of the 21st century...

the infowarrior

24 posted on 06/11/2007 9:59:00 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Valin
"Prius"?

Doesn't that mean "flacid penis" in Greek?

I'd rather have a '71 Camaro SS, which would give me a "Priapism".

25 posted on 06/11/2007 10:26:42 PM PDT by DocH (RINO-rudy for BRONX Dog Catcher 2008!!!)
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