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A Compass That Can Clash With Modern Life
New York Times ^ | June 12, 2007 | Michael Slackman

Posted on 06/11/2007 11:55:46 PM PDT by Lorianne

CAIRO, June 11 — First came the breast-feeding fatwa. It declared that the Islamic restriction on unmarried men and women being together could be lifted at work if the woman breast-fed her male colleagues five times, to establish family ties. Then came the urine fatwa. It said that drinking the urine of the Prophet Muhammad was deemed a blessing.

For the past few weeks, the breast-feeding and urine fatwas have proved a source of national embarrassment in Egypt, not least because they were issued by representatives of the highest religious authorities in the land.

“We were very angered when we heard about the Danish cartoons concerning our prophet; however, these two fatwas are harming our Islamic religion and our prophet more than the cartoons,” Galal Amin, a professor of economics at the American University in Cairo, wrote in Al Masry Al Yom, a daily newspaper here.

For many Muslims, fatwas, or religious edicts, are the bridge between the principles of their faith and modern life. They are supposed to be issued by religious scholars who look to the Koran and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad for guidance. While the more sensational pronouncements grab attention, the bulk of the fatwas involve the routine of daily life. In Egypt alone, thousands are issued every month.

The controversy in Cairo has been more than just embarrassing. It comes at a time when religious and political leaders say that there is a crisis in Islam because too many fatwas are being issued, and that many of them rely on ideology more than learning.

The complaint has been the subject of recent conferences as government-appointed arbiters of Islamic standards say the fatwa free-for-all has led to the promotion of extremism and intolerance.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: egypt; fatwa; islam; muhammadsminions
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1 posted on 06/11/2007 11:55:50 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

where do they get mohammed-pee?


2 posted on 06/11/2007 11:57:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s possibly a by-product of consuming adult female coworker breast milk? For, as we all know, “a woman at work can take off the veil or reveal her hair in front of someone whom she breast-fed.”

Ai caramba! Muslimos locos!


3 posted on 06/12/2007 12:16:52 AM PDT by flowerplough
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Um, why did the NYT call the article “A Compass that Can Clash with Modern Life”? How about “Islamist Maniacs Show that Sexual Harrassment is not a Crime, It’s a Privelege”. I don’t hear any feminist outrage, either. Just how selfish and hypocritical can modern feminists be? Oh, but I forgot, power must be sooo enticing and addictive for feminists so they don’t dare ally themselves with the opposition.


4 posted on 06/12/2007 12:19:59 AM PDT by TheThinker
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To: Lorianne
A couple approached. The man’s clothes were tattered, and his wife looked distressed. Their 9-year-old son’s clothing was clean, his hair gelled, his smile bright. The man explained that they had adopted the child when he was 9 months old, and that they had just heard that under Islam their son had to be put out of the house, because the mother had not given birth to him or breast-fed him.

He would reach puberty as an outsider, and could not, technically, be around the woman he knew as his mother. The imam at their local mosque said it was haram — forbidden under Islam — to live with the boy.

The sheik said yes, that was right, that the boy could not live with them. The father leaned in, disturbed, and said, “And that’s it.”

The sheik seemed stuck and referred them to another sheik for another opinion.

That was their fatwa.

Apparently the problem is that the boy is nearing puberty. It sounds as if, under Islam, an adopted boy past the age of 9 cannot live in any house where there is a woman.

5 posted on 06/12/2007 12:28:24 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: HiTech RedNeck

> where do they get mohammed-pee?

Re-constituted. The dried stuff is scraped off a rock in Mecca.


6 posted on 06/12/2007 12:32:56 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Lorianne

thanks, bfl


7 posted on 06/12/2007 12:36:13 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Lorianne

So... it’s like an Edict from the Pope, except anyone can issue it...

Imagine if Christianity had “cult” built into it’s modern functions. And I don’t mean as a whole religion, but regionally. “The Church of Kentuky has deterined that since Noah’s family did it, Incest is mandatory!”

While New York has determined that “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you” is in effect. (And later finds that *in keeping with the edict* 73% of New Yorkers must be nihilistic.)


8 posted on 06/12/2007 12:50:36 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Peace is not the highest goal - freedom is. -LachlanMinnesota)
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To: Lorianne
First came the breast-feeding fatwa. It declared that the Islamic restriction on unmarried men and women being together could be lifted at work if the woman breast-fed her male colleagues five times, to establish family ties.

I'm thinking: It's early, but this has gotta be Scrappleface.

9 posted on 06/12/2007 2:25:10 AM PDT by Ocracoke Island
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To: TheThinker

Gawd, what a $h|tty country, what a horrid “faith”.


10 posted on 06/12/2007 2:31:11 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (I never consented to live in the Camp of the Saints.)
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To: Lorianne
It declared that the Islamic restriction on unmarried men and women being together could be lifted at work if the woman breast-fed her male colleagues five times, to establish family ties.

Missed this one. Is that why Islam has taken off in CA and Michigan?

11 posted on 06/12/2007 4:18:22 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Lorianne

ALL RELIGIONS HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.........
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People screw up a good idea with their silliness.
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From Jim Baker saying “Build me a waterpark” to the various fatwas issued by clerics. People are the problem in religion.
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I can see God slapping his forehead thousands of times a day, thumbing through the bible going “Where did they get the idea of using donations for limousines?”


12 posted on 06/12/2007 4:41:56 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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First came the breast-feeding fatwa. It declared that the Islamic restriction on unmarried men and women being together could be lifted at work if the woman breast-fed her male colleagues five times, to establish family ties.

Apparently, someone didn't think this through clearly enough. ;)

13 posted on 06/12/2007 4:47:58 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“I can see God slapping his forehead thousands of times a day, thumbing through the bible going ‘Where did they get the idea of using donations for limousines?’”

... and humming “not with water but with fire next time...”


14 posted on 06/12/2007 6:58:36 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Apparently, someone didn't think this through clearly enough. ;)

I dunno; sounds to me like he gave it a great deal of thought.

15 posted on 06/12/2007 6:58:49 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("My wife's credit cards were stolen. I didn't report the theft. Whoever had them was spending less.")
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To: Slings and Arrows
I dunno; sounds to me like he gave it a great deal of thought.

Ya.

Whether this is lunacy or genious depends upon whether or not you'd hit it. 

16 posted on 06/12/2007 8:22:17 AM PDT by zeugma (Don't Want illegal Alien Amnesty? Call 800-417-7666)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The bottlers of Mecca Cola will simply rename, and remove the caramel coloring from their product..


17 posted on 06/12/2007 8:24:30 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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18 posted on 06/12/2007 8:40:37 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Lorianne

Where does the Mo-p*ss come from?


19 posted on 06/12/2007 8:42:32 AM PDT by cardinal4
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These muzzies and all their complex laws for living.......

I want to see a republishing of Khomeini's writings on all this. Remember reading excerpts after he took over Iran. Wild stuff, like rules about what you could and could not do with a goat after you humped it. Just unbelievable this thinking can still exist in 2000 A.D.

20 posted on 06/12/2007 10:21:32 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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