Posted on 06/12/2007 7:23:17 AM PDT by oakcon
Amen to that.
It's been my experience that bad cops are the ones that were either too chicken to become a real crook, thought of themselves as too smart to be just a lowly street criminal, were barely prevented from otherwise being a crook by a moralistic family upbringing, or a little bit of all three.
I'm not Sigmund Freud over here, I'm just basing this off of the testimony of several LEO pals I know. I was once told by a good cop pal that he believes that the wayward sons who are seen as 'the black sheep' of their otherwise moral family typically become cops, or at least want to be cops. He also told me that I should thank my lucky stars that more people who have the notion of being the big tough law enforcement man in society are also too chicken to actually sign up for the police academy. He runs into them all the time in the course of his duty: Guys who have nunchucks and SWAT gear and ask cops all kinds of questions about their job.
Authoritarian degenerates with a clean background, as he sees them. I see it too.
Very, very well put.
That describes my attitude towards people in general, and people in the military and law enforcement in particular.
I call it “Default Respect”.
I show respect to people I do not know, until they do or say something to me that shows they are not deserving of it.
The law should be respected. No doubt about it. The laws should also reflect common sense and safety related laws should not be twisted into mere revenue generation techniques. Cops who are mere revenue agents are not deserving of respect when they do not write tickets to other cops their wives and girlfriends. Such instances show their commitment to safety is a fraud.
Sad to say but that is what a lot of the cops believe today. The reaction to the court case that said just because they, the cops, stopped a car for probably cause did not give them probably cause to mess with the passengers was priceless.
When cops start enforcing the laws against fellow cops maybe this will change.
They are law enforcement officers but according to the NJ Supreme Court, they are not there to “protect and serve”.
There's a code of silence. Much as the one that people are pointing out in the neighborhoods.
In some neighborhoods, those who witness but are not involved in a crime are afraid to speak out because of retribution (whether it be by a gang or the mob). We have a witness relocation program for a reason.
Why don't police rat out the crooked cops?
MOST police are good and honest. I have met a few who are bums, but they were the exception. I blame many of the problems in police-civilian relations to people like Al Sharpton, the ACLU and the breakdown of the family as much as I do bad cops- no, maybe more than bad cops, those cultural factors destroy the trust. Reasonable people can see most cops are just trying to do their job.
You’ll also find the officers writing one thing on the paperwork but “changing their story” when they are put under oath.
To me, if they sign a document to file a report on a citizen, they are already making testimony.
When that testimony “changes”, with rare exception, one is a lie.
The only time I’ve run into rude law enforcement types has been at parades, or large outdoor events, where they’re trying to direct traffic and people.
The reason why “Can’t we just all get along” is, because some drunk ass is driving 80 miles an hour and will not pull over, with 20 cop cars behind him. Trust me, if I were a cop, and after I got out of that car, I’d be woopin some ass. Rodney got what every drunk gets when you act like a fool and put everyones life in danger! Then Rodney gets drunk again.... Some fools never learn.......
The reason why “Can’t we just all get along” is, because some drunk ass is driving 80 miles an hour and will not pull over, with 20 cop cars behind him. Trust me, if I were a cop, and after I got out of that car, I’d be woopin some ass. Rodney got what every drunk gets when you act like a fool and put everyones life in danger! Then Rodney gets drunk again.... Some fools never learn.......
To give credit, where credit is due those laws where enacted with a person like myself in mind. Nearly fifty years ago, I had just got a job at the big steel plant in my adopted town. I was walking around and around a small shopping based street. A young policeman confronted me. "I have been watching you" quoth he. "Just what are you exactly doing around here?"
I was almost sick to my stomach. I was from England, scared of police. Well, today the very judge would castigate such a man. The other sided of the coin is this. Recently police pulled over a car and saying the driver was "suspicious". He was a drug carrier from Vancouver to Toronto. Trip after trip recorded- using his charge cards or something.
The judge found the man not guilty. No reasonable cause by the police to stop him and search. My own reasoning comes from a sign in a venerable American Upper Peninsula bar- The Long Branch. It read-
The next time you need help. Don't call a policeman- call a hippy.
The Canadian Bill of Rights meant that criminals rule. (Laughs). The REAL BLAME is on the cowardly thug that killed the lad.
Yeah, I seem to recall that he had multiple DUI's afterwards.
And the benefits of urban culture keep rolling in.
Amen. I got a $140 speeding ticket recently. The ticket said, in effect, the $140 was as low as it would be and that by going to court I was risking a much higher fine.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1848976/posts
I really don’t mean to come off anti-cop. But there’s a problem here...
I checked-out the link to the other thread. I’m not a very sympathetic person about the Katrina disaster. My parents own a home in Slidell, La. The renter in their home left with the first warning, and took her pets as well. Having lived in Louisiana, albeit a relatively short time, that place floods regularly... and yes people had to leave their homes for safety. It was civic disobedience to not leave. People who waited until extraordinary efforts had to be made to rescue them can’t complain when they’re forced to leave a pet behind. If you’re banking on the government providing you everything... then you’re subject to their rules. That said, I can’t imagine why they had to round-up the dogs and shoot them. Maybe it was a rotten deputy, maybe it was a health issue, I’m sure I don’t know enough facts to make an intelligent decision. I try to give police/sheriffs the benefit of the doubt until they prove me wrong.
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