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He thinks physics proves Christianity
Philly.com ^ | Jun. 10, 2007 | Bryan Appleyard

Posted on 06/12/2007 8:29:09 AM PDT by mjp

The Physics of Christianity By Frank J. Tipler

'I have a salary at Tulane," says Frank Tipler, "some 40 percent lower than the average for a full professor at Tulane as a consequence of my belief."

Physicists today, he says, are not supposed to believe in God. But he does, though I suspect that in itself would not reduce his salary. What may well do, however, is his belief that the Cosmological Singularity is God. In other words, he believes that contemporary physics has found God and that physics explains Christianity. In fact, it is probably true to say that Tipler does not believe at all. There is no need, for he feels he has proved Christianity through physics.

With his previous book, The Physics of Immortality, Tipler used physics to prove that death would be utterly conquered as future beings deployed vast energy resources, derived from the contraction of the universe, to resurrect the past, ourselves included. Here he goes much further. He says that modern physics has confirmed Christianity - from the Virgin Birth through the Turin Shroud and walking on water to the Resurrection - in detail.

Central to this argument is his conviction that there is no discontinuity between the insights of science and the revelations of the Gospels. Miracles, for example, are not, as is often claimed, sudden deformations or breaches of the natural order. They happen through known physical processes. Walking on water is accomplished through a particle beam and dematerialization through the multiple universe model implied by quantum theory. That they happen when they do is, of course, God's will, but, in making them happen, he does not violate the order of his creation.

This is not a limitation on God's power because he established the laws of physics precisely to encompass all these eventualities. Similarly, the existence of evil is neither God's failing nor proof of his nonexistence. If we could see the many universes - the multiverse - he has created, the problem would simply vanish. Our limited perspective means that we cannot fully understand this any more than we can visualize a four-dimensional cube, but, as with the cube, we can at least imagine the possibility.

The strong argument against relying so much on contemporary scientific knowledge is that, in years to come, much of that knowledge may be overthrown. Indeed, for the majority of physicists, the physics on which Tipler rests his case is already obsolete or at least debatable. The multiverse is generally regarded only as one possible interpretation of quantum theory. The Standard Model of particle physics is thought to be incomplete, and we have no theory of quantum gravity. The Theory of Everything that seemed to be looming in the late '80s now seems as distant as ever. Hope now resides in the exotica of string theory and supersymmetry.

Tipler rejects all this. We have a theory of everything, all the problems were resolved 30 years ago. Subsequent stringy speculations are just that, speculations without any experimental proof. To deny the multiverse is to deny quantum theory; a complete theory of quantum gravity was stumbled upon long ago by Richard Feynman and Steven Weinberg, and the Standard Model is founded on rock-solid foundations of experimental evidence. Why, then, do the physicists deny all this? Because, says Tipler, they don't like the universe that emerges, a universe that begins and ends with God.

The experimentally based physics to which Tipler refers predicts a singularity - a point at which all known laws of physics break down and to which, therefore, our science has no access - from which the universe sprang. There is a further singularity at the end of the universe and a third joining the two. This is the Holy Trinity. The first singularity, says Tipler, is God the Father, the second God the Holy Ghost, and the third God the Son. The last, because of his role as the singularity that runs alongside the present, is able to appear in human history.

Though this may seem highly deterministic, Tipler insists we still have free will. Our role is to play our part in the drama that will lead to the final singularity. This is a technological matter, but clues to how it may be achieved were laid at the Resurrection. Notably there is the baryon annihilation process that will provide us with infinite energy, interstellar travel, and a mechanism that will advance the contraction of the universe toward its final encounter with God. Baryon annihilation will also provide us with appalling powers of destruction. It converts matter into energy with absolute efficiency. On that basis, a human body contains enough mass to create a 1,000-megaton explosion. Tipler expects the world as we know it to end within 50 years or so. Our destiny will be intact, however, as we shall have become backed-up computer programs, probably on our way to the stars.

I doubt this book will make many converts. Believers will continue to believe, perhaps with a little more confidence, and skeptics will continue to doubt, perhaps with a little less. But Tipler should not be ignored by anybody. His great virtue is that he dramatizes the possibility that there is a deep and so far unknown connection between our faiths, our intuitions and our knowledge. He is due, at the very least, for a salary review.


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1 posted on 06/12/2007 8:29:10 AM PDT by mjp
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To: mjp
Thanks for the post! Most interesting.

Carolyn

2 posted on 06/12/2007 8:31:15 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: mjp
Physics proved the truths of Eastern religions three decades ago (The Tao of Physics), so why not Christianity, too? ;)
3 posted on 06/12/2007 8:32:37 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: mjp
Physicists today, he says, are not supposed to believe in God.

Canard and no basis in the real world.

4 posted on 06/12/2007 8:32:51 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: mjp
Walking on water is accomplished through a particle beam and dematerialization through the multiple universe model implied by quantum theory.

Just like on Star Trek! It must be true!

5 posted on 06/12/2007 8:34:44 AM PDT by blowfish
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To: mjp
The Church of the Cosmological Singularity???
Sounds like something out of a Heinlein novel.
Okay, I'm copyrighting and trademarking that!
6 posted on 06/12/2007 8:38:10 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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To: mjp

Dr. Gene Ray is right.


7 posted on 06/12/2007 8:39:39 AM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: mjp
Physicists today, he says, are not supposed to believe in God.

BZZZTTT! Wrong! Who came up with this ignorant statement? Most of the great thinkers of the past were quite devout. Although I never became or will become a great physicist, I am still a Christian and faithful believer. One can't look deeply into the structure of the cosmos and the nature of reality and not be moved at a spiritual level. No, I don't believe in the Genesis story; but to me, that is a matter or getting beyond Sunday School Lessons and into a mature Christian relationship with God.

8 posted on 06/12/2007 8:40:10 AM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: mjp

interesting and way beyond my comprehension!


9 posted on 06/12/2007 8:41:58 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I read it and I often used it to prove God in debates.


10 posted on 06/12/2007 8:42:04 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: RightWhale
Do you deny nature's harmonic simultaneous 4-day Time Cube?

Do you?

Money is pyramiding. Religion is pyramiding. Education is pyramiding. The environment is pyramiding. The pyramid of progress has destroyed the marbles circle, it's destroyed the family circle.

11 posted on 06/12/2007 8:42:36 AM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Clock King
“I am still a Christian and faithful believer. One can’t look deeply into the structure of the cosmos and the nature of reality and not be moved at a spiritual level. No, I don’t believe in the Genesis story; but to me, that is a matter or getting beyond Sunday School Lessons and into a mature Christian relationship with God.”

A mature relationship with God is rooted in reading His word, and accepting it as truth.

If you don’t believe Genesis, then you don’t believe God.

If you don’t believe Him, you don’t have a deep mature Christian relationship.

12 posted on 06/12/2007 8:43:52 AM PDT by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: SteveMcKing
4-day time cube? It's been done.


13 posted on 06/12/2007 8:46:26 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: mjp

I am having my gall bladder removed this Friday. A couple weeks ago, as the surgeon explained to me the purpose of the liver, gall bladder, pancreas, etc., while using a chart, I sat amazed at the machinery of the human body. I could not help but think that this could not have been an accident and once again my belief in God was reaffirmed.


14 posted on 06/12/2007 8:46:26 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: mjp

GOD by definition is all powerful. Think about that and what it means. Our little human intellects cannot even scratch the surface of God’s almighty power.God can do anything but contradict Himself.


15 posted on 06/12/2007 8:48:15 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: silverleaf
I was going to say the same thing.

Anyone here in Freepland who can sum this up for us slow folks?

16 posted on 06/12/2007 8:48:28 AM PDT by Scarchin (+)
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To: Preachin'

If you don’t believe Genesis, then you don’t believe God.
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Ah, the “my way or the highway” approach to faith and religious belief. A shame, really, that some are unable to recognize truth from allegory.


17 posted on 06/12/2007 8:53:02 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Clock King
No, I don't believe in the Genesis story; but to me, that is a matter or getting beyond Sunday School Lessons and into a mature Christian relationship with God.

Ok, let me get this straight. I'm confused, are you insinuating you don't take God's word literally, or a Sunday School teacher's lesson about Genesis?

I believe to have a mature relationship with God childlike faith is a character trait he has requested?

18 posted on 06/12/2007 8:54:32 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: blowfish

“My mind is aglow with various transient nodes of thought careening through a universe of cosmic invention.”


19 posted on 06/12/2007 8:55:16 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: mjp

The Stupidity - It Burns! It Burns!


20 posted on 06/12/2007 8:55:27 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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