He thinks physics proves Christianity

...we have no theory of quantum gravity.

Not true. Although its not very developed.

Loop quantum gravity has already been used to derive a more general version of the Bekenstein-Hawking expression for the entropy of a Schwarzschild black hole.

61 posted on 06/12/2007 11:00:57 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%

One can't look deeply into the structure of the cosmos and the nature of reality and not be moved at a spiritual level.

Ditto.

62 posted on 06/12/2007 11:08:11 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)

To: stylecouncilor

63 posted on 06/12/2007 11:08:15 AM PDT by onedoug

What they do is use the passive voice, which takes care of that automatically.

64 posted on 06/12/2007 11:26:14 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)

We’ll say a prayer for you. Hopefully you’ll have the easiest of times. I’m having trouble with mine too, but so far no one has decided to cut on me.

65 posted on 06/12/2007 11:40:21 AM PDT by kenth (I got tired of my last tagline...)

The post of mine you replied to was itself a reply to a poster stating categorically that if one does not take the Genesis creation story absolutely literally, one cannot have a deep, mature relationship with God.

I beg to differ.

As for a point by point, allegory or no discussion of the Bible, I can’t imagine you’d gain much from my agnostic ramblings.

66 posted on 06/12/2007 11:40:53 AM PDT by dmz

As for a point by point, allegory or no discussion of the Bible, I can’t imagine you’d gain much from my agnostic ramblings.

Oh, I realize I stepped into a conversation you were having with someone else, and I apologize if I intruded into (what appears to be) a public conversation.

On this point, DMZ, we can and will agree.

Thank you for a civil discussion, it is one thing that we do not find much, anymore.

67 posted on 06/12/2007 11:48:00 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")

"On that basis, a human body contains enough mass to create a 1,000-megaton explosion. "

I sure hope the Muslims don't get wind of this Baryon annihilation thing. Could give a whole new meaning to the term suicide bomber.

68 posted on 06/12/2007 11:52:21 AM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)

To: dmz; Preachin'

"Exactly my point. You will not engage with those who think differently than you on a topic near and dear to your heart. You are simply dismissive."

What you "think" about what the word of God says is dismissed because it is unimportant.

What you think is only of any importance to you. It is the opinion of the god you have created in your own mind. Which the word of God calls idolatry. That is why you need to defend it in meaningless debate with what others "think".

To those who are not of the spirit of God, the Bible is just a book. A book which they will manipulate to support the idolatrous god of their imagination. That is not what I think, but what the word of God says.

But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Corinthians 2:14)

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us who are saved it is the power of God. (1 Corinthians 1:18)

The entire Bibles stands on the book of Genesis. It is repeated and referenced throughout the New Testament. Jesus himself referred to it. (Matthew 19:3-4)

If one does not believe the book of Genesis, then why should they believe any of the Bible. That is why the Biblical account of Creation has been so relentlessly attacked by humanist, they know it is the foundation of Christianity. If they undermine that book, they destroy the foundations of the Bible.

"If I have told you earthly things, and you believe not, how shall you believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? (John 3:12)"

Ken Ham - Genesis - The Key to Reclaiming the Culture (2003)

The fundamental reason that people reject the God of the Bible is because they love their sin and want to remain in it.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone that does evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he that does truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are worked in God. (John 3:19-21)

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69 posted on 06/12/2007 11:57:09 AM PDT by Search4Truth (Hosea 4:6 warns, My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:...)

To: Search4Truth

To those who are not of the spirit of God, the Bible is just a book.

Is that what William Law meant?

70 posted on 06/12/2007 11:58:50 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)

So what I think about what William Law thinks is important to what you think? You place a lot of importance in what men think.

The Bible says this. Which is what I was referring to. What I think is of no importance.

But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Corinthians 2:14)

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us who are saved it is the power of God. (1 Corinthians 1:18)

Regards, S4T.

71 posted on 06/12/2007 12:17:59 PM PDT by Search4Truth (Hosea 4:6 warns, My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:...)

To: Search4Truth

That's a translation. All the meaning is lost in information.

You place a lot of importance in what men think.

Oh? Take a poll on FR, see how that hypothesis stands up. Scientific method.

72 posted on 06/12/2007 12:31:24 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)

"That's a translation. All the meaning is lost in information."

So that is what you think? How convenient.

Oh? Take a poll on FR, see how that hypothesis stands up. Scientific method.

I stand corrected. You place a lot of importance on what you think.

When one has the word of God, what man thinks is unimportant.

73 posted on 06/12/2007 12:46:03 PM PDT by Search4Truth (Hosea 4:6 warns, My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:...)

To: Search4Truth

So that is what you think?

No. That is an old opinion of somebody else.

You place a lot of importance on what you think.

It's like having a conversation with a Chinese fortune cookie. Bye, Eliza.

74 posted on 06/12/2007 12:52:09 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)

Do you trust in God to heal you or do you go to a doctor?

Why should one preclude the other?

75 posted on 06/12/2007 1:01:21 PM PDT by newguy357

Tipler wrote the general physics text book I used in college.

Wow, is it the same Tipler? It was a very good intro text.

76 posted on 06/12/2007 1:06:52 PM PDT by newguy357

Looked it up and found they are two different Tiplers. The textbook author is Paul Tipler.

77 posted on 06/12/2007 1:12:19 PM PDT by newguy357

No. That is an old opinion of somebody else.

Is that someone whose thoughts you think a lot of?

It's like having a conversation with a Chinese fortune cookie. Bye, Eliza.

That really does sum up your thoughts about the word of God. Which was apparent from the beginning, So what was there really for you and I to converse about. There was only to reveal your contempt for the God of the Bible.

78 posted on 06/12/2007 1:13:00 PM PDT by Search4Truth (Hosea 4:6 warns, My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:...)

To: Search4Truth

79 posted on 06/12/2007 1:15:44 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)

You’ll put someone’s eye out with that. :)

80 posted on 06/12/2007 1:27:07 PM PDT by Search4Truth (Hosea 4:6 warns, My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:...)

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