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What America Owes its 'Illegals' (Ultra Barf Alert!)
The Nation ^ | June 12, 2007 | Barbara Ehrenreich

Posted on 06/12/2007 8:18:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: TAdams8591
I personally know of a number of situations that rag heads have come into our country and received a $50,000 check from Uncle Sam and a wet kiss just to give them hands-up to get a good start. This is, of course, tax free and will probably never be paid back to the government. But, hell, that’s okay. We, as citizens, in the country, could and will never get such a helping hand.
Can anyone else give me their opinion about this??
51 posted on 06/12/2007 8:50:45 PM PDT by antiunion person (The more we help, the more they steal from us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree we owe them nothing. The came in here illegally.


52 posted on 06/12/2007 8:52:27 PM PDT by ConspiracyTheorist
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Have you ever tried to go to sleep with the tune of zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay pounding away in your skull?

For me, this is gonna be the 3rd time this month!

53 posted on 06/12/2007 8:54:34 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: stylin19a
"um....where to start ?"

Try this one. Bullshit.

54 posted on 06/12/2007 8:55:05 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
What about the car thieving, the break and entering (not the "into the country" crap this article leads off with) the rape of women, drug smuggling, murdering, latino gang violence, prostitution rings, defrauding government social programs, defrauding or just plain theft of medical treatment, identity theft,-and the list goes on and on,- 99% of these criminals commit, not to mention tax evasion, and voting illegaly for idiotic sympathizers that they KNOW are stupid clueless suckers.

The drunk drivers have become a plague.

55 posted on 06/12/2007 8:57:18 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: antiunion person

If true, it’s outrageous. How did they get it, do you know?


56 posted on 06/12/2007 8:59:15 PM PDT by TAdams8591
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Anyone caught re-entering the United States will do one year in detention (work gang) and then returned to Mexico, again."

Maybe that will satify the thirst for cheap labor of these "companies" who are unwilling to pay a fair wage. Quite frankly I could care less if those type of "employers" (they can hardly be called that) go out of business. Perhaps houses will be able to withstand a stong wind if they atre no longer built by cheap unskilled and unqualified labor. Fat liberals can cut their own grass, they need the excersize anyways.

57 posted on 06/12/2007 9:00:22 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: potlatch

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Emailed out with bgsound:

“THE LONELY BULL”


58 posted on 06/12/2007 9:01:07 PM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Today _A_Mexican_Illegal_Alien_Sold_The_911_IDS_)
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To: GOPJ
In a different time, Barbara Ehrenreich would have sung the praises of slavery. All those happy blacks working in the fields, singing, and sooooooo happy.

Yep! Say it again. She is filled with her "soft" bigotry. Typical leftist writer, She never worked a real job in her life. She's blessed to live one long party.

59 posted on 06/12/2007 9:01:52 PM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: TAdams8591

I don’t have any idea how they got it. But, I talked to truck drivers of Middle East descent and many of them told me they did it. If only one person had told me this, I would have said they were lying. Since multiple people have told me, it must be true.


60 posted on 06/12/2007 9:02:13 PM PDT by antiunion person (Screw with us and we will close you down.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the good old days, teenagers used to do these jobs.


61 posted on 06/12/2007 9:03:05 PM PDT by ROTB (Our Constitution...only for a [Christian] people...it is wholly inadequate for any other.-J.Q.Adams)
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To: hole_n_one

Sometimes, though Chevy Chase is the one singing it. =8-0


62 posted on 06/12/2007 9:03:32 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Apparently the author considers identity theft to be a victimless crime. I feel so....enlightened.


63 posted on 06/12/2007 9:05:00 PM PDT by Bernard (You can't fix stupid. Stop trying.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s Barbara Ehrenreich and The Nation, automatic double barf.

Barbara Ehrenreich thinks fast-food workers should be paid the same as salaried engineers, but she doesn’t want to spend $250 for a burger.


64 posted on 06/12/2007 9:06:16 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: devolve

Lol, that’s good! Bull meaning Bullheaded I suppose? Or you may have a different meaning entirely as you often do.


65 posted on 06/12/2007 9:09:20 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What we owe to the illegals is a swift kick in the pants back over the border.


66 posted on 06/12/2007 9:11:05 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: goodnesswins
"HA....I wonder how many illegals she has hired for work around her domicile....."

Quite a few judging by the width of her fat @ss.

It's obvious that she don't leave her sanctuary very often. I wold just love to drop her off in the middle of a illegal criminal nieghborhood with no money, phone,ID and make her walk back out, passing through the nieghborhoods which border these areas. maybe her opinion of "poor illegal Mexicans" who cut grass and pick vegetables, clean toilets will be altered to include reality.

67 posted on 06/12/2007 9:12:22 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: ROTB
"In the good old days, teenagers used to do these jobs."

In the good old days I mowed lawns and washed dishes for spending money. And I am an American citizen. Shocker.

68 posted on 06/12/2007 9:12:32 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Supposing all this crap is true which, I don't for a minute. Shouldn't the poor from other countries have the same access to these opportunities as Latinos? Mexico is by no means the poorest country in the world.

So if they can tap our generosity by doing jobs Americans won't do, why not just let in the poor from Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and a score of other countries who need the jobs more and will do them for less?

Is there any limit to the number of people this country can hold?

Just a little quiz:

  1. The population density of Mexico is most comparable to which U.S. state? (a)New York, (b)California (c)Tennessee (d)Ohio.
  2. The population density of Bangladesh is most comparable to which U.S. state or city? (a)Wisconsin, (b)Rhode Island, (c)New Jersey, (d)Corpus Christi, Texas.
  3. The population density of Argentina is most comparable to which U.S. state? (a)South Dakota, (b)Colorado, (c)Arkansas, (d)Georgia.
  4. Zimbabwe has a population density most comparable with which U.S. state? (a)Minnesota, (b)Alabama, (c)Illinois, (d)Indiana.
  5. Cuba has a population density most comparable with which U.S. state? (a)California, (b)Florida, (c)Ohio, (d)Pennsylvania.

Do you suppose many or most of the people in the five countries named would like to come to the United States? Do we have room for them all? Which are the most deserving?
69 posted on 06/12/2007 9:12:44 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: potlatch

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Try the other end of the bull!


70 posted on 06/12/2007 9:13:09 PM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Today _A_Mexican_Illegal_Alien_Sold_The_911_IDS_)
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To: devolve

Yes, I saw the BS’er in another post.


71 posted on 06/12/2007 9:15:05 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•Ώ•)›_ooo_))
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To: pulaskibush
Illegals make up 4.4% of the workforce according to the US Dept of Labor. They make about 2.2% of the GDP for America. The rest of GDP is done by the real backbone of the US economy which is the legal worker!

Now how can that possibly be true when there are so many "jobs that Americans won't do." /s

72 posted on 06/12/2007 9:17:16 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like the author has illegals working for her, and hates the thought of having to pay a legal worker legal wages. Either that or she’s smoking some darn good pot.


73 posted on 06/12/2007 9:18:03 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: antiunion person

Last year, after Hurricane Katrina and my business being destoyed in Biloxi MS; I moved to Dallas/Ft Worth and was hired as a supervisor at the employment & welfare office. The “clients” receive: TANF (cash money), food stamps, gas money or bus passes, laptop computers w/Internet access, job counseling, clothing, Section 8 subsidized housing, Medicaid, and lots more!! Illegals are eligible for all these benefits.


74 posted on 06/12/2007 9:18:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s why I say “we the people” should have a tax revolt. They can’t throw us all in jail, and they can’t kick us out of the country.
Enough is enough.


75 posted on 06/12/2007 9:25:25 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We should give illegals jobs as journalists. The crap the media churns out now would is worth about a nickel an hour....


76 posted on 06/12/2007 9:37:56 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They've been mowing the lawns, cleaning the offices, hammering the nails and picking the tomatoes, not to mention all that dish-washing, diaper-changing, meat-packing and poultry-plucking.

And they were paid for it. They didn't come into the country to work for free. Illegal aliens are not Mother Teresa.

They took a risk in order to reap benefits for themselves and their families. The risk to them is being caught and deported, and it's a very low risk at present.

If we want to reduce the number of illegal immigrants, we need to increase the risk or decrease the benefits. Ms. Ehrenreich wants to do just the opposite. Yeah, that will help.

77 posted on 06/12/2007 9:41:17 PM PDT by wai-ming
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To: Nathan Zachary
"They can’t throw us all in jail, and they can’t kick us out of the country."

They would make a better effort at it than they do against border jumpers. Slaves are better subjects than independent thinkers.

78 posted on 06/12/2007 9:46:49 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Yaelle

hahaaaha no, you gotta put him up forever and pay for his food, for his clothes and for his healthcare and if he has kids.....well me bucko........ you gotta pay for them too...

kum—bye—eeya.... gringo-man.


79 posted on 06/12/2007 9:51:22 PM PDT by flat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
All right, they committed a "crime"--the international equivalent of breaking and entry. But breaking and entry is usually a prelude to a much worse crime, like robbery or rape.

She must be one of those "run into a corner, dial 911 and hope for the best" liberals.

Where I'm from, breaking and entering gets you SHOT. You don't get a chance to rob or rape, cause you're DEAD.

80 posted on 06/12/2007 9:52:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: TBP

you forgot ziltch............


81 posted on 06/12/2007 9:55:26 PM PDT by flat
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To: Vigilanteman

You gonna post the answers or what???

;)


82 posted on 06/12/2007 9:55:27 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Nathan Zachary
That’s why I say “we the people” should have a tax revolt. They can’t throw us all in jail, and they can’t kick us out of the country.

Enough is enough.

You don't think the IRS will simply garnish our legitimately earned paychecks and property?

83 posted on 06/12/2007 10:00:27 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: Travis McGee
"Where I'm from, breaking and entering gets you SHOT."

Good train of thought.

84 posted on 06/12/2007 10:01:57 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Yaelle

Would it be possible to post them (the pamphlets)? I’d like to see them and find out who’s behind it.


85 posted on 06/12/2007 10:02:52 PM PDT by Riverine
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To: TheSpottedOwl
"You don't think the IRS will simply garnish our legitimately earned paychecks and property?"

They will without thinking twice.

86 posted on 06/12/2007 10:04:15 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the same silly cow who wrote the awful socialist tract titled “Nickle and Dimed”. I expected nothing less from this intellctual lightweight.


87 posted on 06/12/2007 10:12:12 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: 3AngelaD

Her book “Nickle and Dimed” is a great example. A lightweight bit of fluff that is intellectually dishonest from the first page to the last.


88 posted on 06/12/2007 10:16:46 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: blackbart.223

It tends to cut WAY down on the B&E.


89 posted on 06/12/2007 10:16:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: devolve

I absolutely love your photo essays!

Thank you!


90 posted on 06/12/2007 10:28:44 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If someone breaks into my property for the purpose of trashing and looting, I would be hell-bent on restitution. But if they break in for the purpose of cleaning it--scrubbing the bathroom, mowing the lawn--then, in my way of thinking anyway, the debt goes in the other direction.

Well, Barbara, what if they do both?

Hello? Barbara???

91 posted on 06/12/2007 10:48:52 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Has George W. Bush been taking Carter's Little Pills?)
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92 posted on 06/12/2007 11:48:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are owed a kick in the (ahem) and a one way ride on the trebuchet across the Rio Grande.


93 posted on 06/13/2007 12:49:01 AM PDT by Maigrey (The term ‘vapid twat’ has never meant so much before Katie came on the scene. -gilor)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What opinion could we expect from someone like Ehrenreich? She’s a committed Marxist.


94 posted on 06/13/2007 2:48:44 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: antiunion person

The only way dumbasses like Barbara will care about illegal immigration is when they start writing pieces for The Nation for 4 bucks an hour.


95 posted on 06/13/2007 3:03:32 AM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“All right, they committed a “crime”—the international equivalent of breaking and entry. “

And B and E is a real offense. You don’t give cash handouts to folks who break and enter just because they don’t continue on to do murder. What an absurd column by a oneworlder. Lets hope nobody fowards this to the President.


96 posted on 06/13/2007 4:55:16 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“”All right, they committed a “crime”—the international equivalent of breaking and entry. But breaking and entry is usually a prelude to a much worse crime, like robbery or rape. What have the immigrants been doing once they get into the US? Taking up time on the elliptical trainers in our health clubs? Getting ahead of us on the wait-lists for elite private nursery schools?”

No, they have been robbing and raping our education, health and welfare systems.

Is she that oblivious?


97 posted on 06/13/2007 5:35:10 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (If your representative will not vote for Term Limits, vote for the candidate who will.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, if I break into her house and move into her master bedroom, it’s OK so long as I mop the floors while I’m there?

Kennedy has a great compound. I think it would be really funny if a group of anti-illegal protestors broke onto his compound, and started doing clean-up work and sleeping in his rooms. I wish I had the freedom to do something like that, as it would be a great protest, it would get nationwide coverage, and would perfectly illustrate the absurdity of the immigration bill.


98 posted on 06/13/2007 7:34:50 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Travis McGee
1>c
2>d
3>b
4>b
5>c

With the possible exception of Bangladesh, the purpose of this exercise is to explode the common myth that these countries are poor because they are overcrowded and America, having plenty of room, should just let them all in.

Couple this with the fact that most of them will not head for the comparable population density areas noted but straight for our cities where they can live in their little Balkanized enclaves. Although, at least in the case of the Los Angeles area, it is a huge Balkanized enclave covering most of several counties.

99 posted on 06/13/2007 7:53:35 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Clock King
Yep! Say it again. She is filled with her "soft" bigotry. Typical leftist writer...

You're right - it's a soft bigotry - the worst kind.

100 posted on 06/13/2007 8:22:18 AM PDT by GOPJ (We are NOT a nation of immigrants, we are a nation of Americans - legal, assimilated and proud-Laney)
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