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Poll Finds New Jersey Doesn't Care How Nation Views Us
Millennium Radio ^ | 7/13/2007 | Kevin McArdle

Posted on 06/13/2007 6:45:47 AM PDT by Incorrigible

FDU Public Mind Poll Finds New Jersey Doesn't Care How Nation Views Us

Wednesday, June 13, 2007 - Millennium Radio New Jersey

[Fairleigh Dickinson Univ., Madison, NJ] -- 54% of New Jersey voters think the Garden State is a better place to live than other states. 20% say it's worse, and 17% say it's just the same. Jersey voters agree on something else: pollution. A sizable majority--62%--say our state is more polluted than others. Perhaps worse, 42% of people around the country agree, and just 17% around the country say New Jersey has the same amount of pollution or less than other states.

As you might expect from the so-called, "attitude capital of the world," New Jerseyans are unconcerned with their image. 57% say they are "not concerned at all" with what people in other states think about New Jersey, while another 15% say they just are "a little concerned.

And what do they think? When asked "what comes to mind when you think of New Jersey?" voters across the country mention, in descending order, "next to New York" and "the shore" as well as casinos and even farming, vegetables and cows far more often than pollution.

So what else is good about New Jersey? 57% say the Garden State has better public schools than other states. As for whether the state has more or fewer dishonest politicians, Jersey voters split: 42% say the state has more than its fair share but 41% think the state has the same as, or fewer than other states. Jersey cynicism--or inside knowledge--is not widely shared: outside the state just 16% say New Jersey has more dishonest politicians than other states.

Asked about street crime, 36% of Jersey voters say there's more of it in their state, but 49% say the state has the same or less than other states. Jerseyans also split on whether there is more organized crime in their state: 40% of New Jerseyans say there is, and 30% nationally agree. But 48% nationally say they don't know, and 38% in New Jersey say there's the same or less of it in their state.

One other thing Jersey voters agree on is taxes: 85% conclude they pay more in state and local taxes than most other states. The rest of the nation doesn't agree however: just 27% nationally say New Jersey pays more in taxes. The Garden State has the highest property taxes in the country, twice the national average and last year, the Legislature approved Governor Jon Corzine's proposal to increase the state sales tax from 6% to 7%.

Two PublicMind polls of 776 registered voters nationwide and 602 registered voters in New Jersey were conducted from May 29 through June 3 and have a margins of error of +/- 3.5 and +/-4 percentage points

By: Kevin McArdle

Not for commercial use.  For educational and discussion purposes only.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: fuhgeddaboudit; joisey
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Hey you!  Yeah you! Go take a hike!

 

 

 

1 posted on 06/13/2007 6:45:53 AM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: Incorrigible
Everyone knows Jersey sucks, no sense in trying to cover it up.....
2 posted on 06/13/2007 6:49:33 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Incorrigible
outside the state just 16% say New Jersey has more dishonest politicians than other states.

Huh?

3 posted on 06/13/2007 6:50:32 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Incorrigible
Probably the same brain dead voters who keep electing the losers who are running this place.
4 posted on 06/13/2007 6:50:45 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (I will respect illegal aliens civil rights, when they respect the sovereignty of the US!)
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To: Incorrigible

That explains why you never have to pay a toll to get into the state but you always have to pay a toll to get out of it.


5 posted on 06/13/2007 6:51:06 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Incorrigible
Poll Finds New Jersey Doesn't Care How Nation Views Us

That's been evident for decades.

6 posted on 06/13/2007 6:53:01 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Incorrigible

I formed my opinion after a 5 hour layover in the Newark airport. Scary looking people.


7 posted on 06/13/2007 6:53:57 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: BenLurkin; Incorrigible

Will We Let Judges Fix Elections?

Oct. 16, 2002

Al Gore and his allies in the media have popularized the notion that an election loser can use the courts to change the rules. Activist judges have been rewriting laws for many years, but now the trend is for activist state judges to try to rig an election.
This is a very bad idea. Not even banana republics let judges interfere with elections.

U.S. Senator Robert Torricelli (D-NJ) has been facing corruption allegations for several years, and a man who paid him bribes is now in jail. Many thought that Clinton’s Department of Justice was going to indict Torricelli, but somehow that never happened.

The Senate Ethics Committee, controlled by Democrats, gave Torricelli a pass. The Democrats closed ranks around him, Senate leader Tom Daschle (D-SD) campaigned for him, and Torricelli easily won renomination in New Jersey’s primary this year.

Everything was going smoothly for Torricelli until he dropped dramatically in the polls following a sensational TV interview with his convicted benefactor, David Chang. The Democrats became desperate to save the seat in order to hang on to their one-vote majority in the Senate.

By the time Torricelli announced his intention to drop out, the election had already begun. Ballots had been printed, overseas military ballots had been mailed, some servicemen had already voted, and the legal deadline for substituting another candidate had passed.

New Jersey law clearly states that a name can be substituted on the ballot “in the event of a vacancy, howsoever caused, among candidates nominated at primaries, which vacancy shall occur not later than the 51st day before the general election.” But when Torricelli announced his intention to withdraw, it was only 36 days before the election, so the Democrats asked the New Jersey Supreme Court to rewrite the law.

The New Jersey Supreme Court accommodated the Democrats, changed the rules, and simply declared that the change was fair. The court held that it “should invoke its equitable powers in favor of a full and fair ballot choice for the voters of New Jersey.”

One has to wonder about the remarkable confidence the Democratic Party had that the New Jersey Supreme Court would maneuver around the clear deadline in the law. Was the fix in before they pressured Torricelli to pull out?

The problem with the court’s decision is that no change in the rules during or after an election can ever be fair unless the change is to accommodate an absolutely unforeseen circumstance (such as the World Trade Center collapse). There was nothing sudden about Torricelli’s unfitness to be a Senator because news of his criminal associations had been circulating for a long time.

The only way to hold a fair election is to have an agreed-on procedure in advance. Even seemingly fair changes in the rules can unfairly change the outcome of any close election.

In 2000, the Florida Supreme Court had to be stopped from a post- election rewriting of the procedures for counting ballots. It was wholly necessary and proper for the U.S. Supreme Court to preserve the integrity of the presidential election.

The U.S. Supreme Court decision in Bush v. Gore in 2000 stands for the principle that the rules for a federal election must be determined in advance by the legislature, and that the state must stick to those rules. But once again, the Democrats have proved they can get state appellate judges to jimmy an election.

In response to complaints about butterfly ballots, some areas are experimenting with electronic voting machines, but those machines make it easy to substitute a name on the ballot only hours before an election. Should a party be allowed to do that if polls show a candidate is about to lose?

The purpose of the deadline in the law is not merely to allow time for ballots to be distributed. It is also to allow time for the candidates to debate the issues and the voters to become informed.

The New Jersey story gives us a bitter lesson in how Republicans are betrayed by RINOs (Republicans In Name Only). RINO Governor Christine Todd Whitman appointed six out of the seven New Jersey Supreme Court judges, several of whom were Democrats. Two of the judges (plus the spouses of two others) had made political donations to Torricelli.

Whitman selected judges who could be counted on to implement her liberal pro-abortion agenda, and now Republicans can see the fruits of her appointments: violation of election law and possibly the loss of the U.S. Senate. This is the same New Jersey Supreme Court that unanimously ordered the Boy Scouts to change its rules and employ gay scoutmasters (fortunately, reversed by the U.S. Supreme Court).

Elections should follow pre-election rules, whether one side later objects or not. If courts are allowed to manipulate elections by changing the rules in the middle of or after the election, then we can expect crooked elections all over the country.

Phyllis Schlafly column 10-16-02


8 posted on 06/13/2007 6:54:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Incorrigible

How there are some many New Jersey people in Florida then”


9 posted on 06/13/2007 6:55:31 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: Incorrigible
I was out there for my son's wedding last fall.

Seems like a good place for a landfill.

10 posted on 06/13/2007 6:58:13 AM PDT by MountainDad
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To: Incorrigible

Someone paid for a poll to see what others think of NJ? Who’s the mammone that did this?


11 posted on 06/13/2007 7:00:29 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Because South Florida is a joint venture between NYers/New Jerseyites on one hand and wealthy Latin American exiles on the other.


12 posted on 06/13/2007 7:00:37 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: MountainDad
I like landfills!


LANDFILL
This ice cream has everything but the kitchen sink! Throughout the vanilla ice cream you’ll find bordeaux cherries, chocolate crunchies, brownie chunks, and a serious fudge swirl.

13 posted on 06/13/2007 7:04:00 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Clemenza

I didn’t know that - I don’t go there anymore, unarmed.


14 posted on 06/13/2007 7:05:02 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: Ditter

boo!


15 posted on 06/13/2007 7:05:26 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Incorrigible

New Jersey has some beautiful suburbs. I think I saw Tony’s house when we drove through a couple of months ago. :)


16 posted on 06/13/2007 7:08:23 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: MountainDad
Seems like a good place for a landfill.

It's always amusing to hear the comments from smug, clueless folks who drop in to Newark or spend five minutes driving into the tunnel. It's true, if you're 15 miles from Manhatten, Jersey is one big suburb.

However, if you live outside of 287, the state is quite different. Looks a bit more like this pic, taken behind my home.


17 posted on 06/13/2007 7:09:49 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Malsua

gorgeous


18 posted on 06/13/2007 7:11:19 AM PDT by mpackard (Proud mama of a Sailor.)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Much of Central Florida (Orlando area) and parts of the west coast (Tampa) are fairly dangerous places, to say nothing of Jacksonville.


19 posted on 06/13/2007 7:11:37 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Malsua
Yeah, I'm smug and clueless.

Thanks.....

20 posted on 06/13/2007 7:13:42 AM PDT by MountainDad
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To: BenLurkin

Louisiana’s got NJ beat I think.


21 posted on 06/13/2007 7:19:09 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: BenLurkin; Incorrigible
The only time I was in New Jersey was the time I spent at Ft. Dix for basic training. I didn't think much of that place, but most military bases in the 70s were not the best place to be, with Nam having just ended.

The New Jersey Supreme Court accommodated the Democrats, changed the rules, and simply declared that the change was fair. The court held that it “should invoke its equitable powers in favor of a full and fair ballot choice for the voters of New Jersey.”

Good article. I'd bet a chunk of change that the NJ Supremes would never have changed the rules if the Republicans had asked to replace a candidate on the ballot after the deadline.

The New Jersey story gives us a bitter lesson in how Republicans are betrayed by RINOs (Republicans In Name Only). RINO Governor Christine Todd Whitman appointed six out of the seven New Jersey Supreme Court judges, several of whom were Democrats. Two of the judges (plus the spouses of two others) had made political donations to Torricelli.

Whitman selected judges who could be counted on to implement her liberal pro-abortion agenda, and now Republicans can see the fruits of her appointments: violation of election law and possibly the loss of the U.S. Senate.

Gee, violation of election law by a rat is news. That happens everywhere the dims are in charge. Look at Ohio in 04. That is SOP for the dims.

22 posted on 06/13/2007 7:19:17 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Stop the invasion. Secure the borders now.)
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To: MountainDad
Yeah, I'm smug and clueless.

Smug, certainly. You figuratively looked down your nose at my entire state. Clueless because you really have no idea what it's like in Jersey other than your short tour. You've formed an opinion of the state that while it may be true in parts, certainly isn't in most of the state.

I'm a transplant too, I lived in Rural Ohio for 28 years. Been in Jersey for 12 now. I'm earning probably more than Triple I could have ever expected to be making in Ohio and it's just as Rural here as in Ohio except I've got Black Bears and Turkeys.

23 posted on 06/13/2007 7:22:13 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Malsua

Lovely. What a wonderful place to live.


24 posted on 06/13/2007 7:22:28 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Incorrigible

New Jersey wants to have a bad reputation, Otherwise a lot of folks from California and New York would move here.

Sure New Jersey has it’s problems... But it also has some of the greatest towns anywhere. It all depends on where you look. An awful lot of people are living in very, very nice places in New Jersey.

As for our politicians, you got us there. They are the worst anywhere.


25 posted on 06/13/2007 7:24:06 AM PDT by jebeier (Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity. But is stupidity sufficient?)
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To: Malsua
I'm a transplant too, I lived in Rural Ohio for 28 years. Been in Jersey for 12 now.

I'm a transplant from California to New Jersey. Twenty years. I have a Cal sticker on my car, and you would be surprised at the number of Grr-Rrr-Rah!s I get. Apparently I'm not the only one.

26 posted on 06/13/2007 7:29:22 AM PDT by jebeier (Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity. But is stupidity sufficient?)
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To: Malsua
You have no idea of how long I was there, or where my travels took me.......

And I'M clueless?

Have a nice day!

27 posted on 06/13/2007 7:30:33 AM PDT by MountainDad
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To: jebeier
you would be surprised at the number of Grr-Rrr-Rah!s I get.

Heh, don't know what that means. Fellow Cali-forni-ans? I like where I live in Jersey, reddest of the red counties too. In fact, Dems don't even usually bother to run in Elections. The write-in candidates for dems usually get 3-4 votes. hehe.

28 posted on 06/13/2007 7:33:45 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Malsua
A very idyllic backyard view. I also like going "down the shore"...

Just stay south of Seaside Heights...

29 posted on 06/13/2007 7:34:33 AM PDT by chimera
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To: Incorrigible
Best headline from The Onion: "Gay Man Admits He Is Governor Of New Jersey"
30 posted on 06/13/2007 7:35:31 AM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: Malsua

It is the cheer of the California Golden Bears. Another parent on my daughter’s softball team was a Cal alum. It really isn’t unusual to meet displaced Californians in New Jersey anymore.

We just have to keep the brain-dead type of Californians that are ruining Colorado and Idaho out...


31 posted on 06/13/2007 7:39:47 AM PDT by jebeier (Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity. But is stupidity sufficient?)
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To: MountainDad
You have no idea of how long I was there, or where my travels took me.......

And I'M clueless?

Yup. You obviously drove around Passaic or Patterson or perhaps even Camden and decided the whole state was worthy of ..oh wait, how did you so gingerly term it again... a good place for a landfill.

Thanks alot, just keep driving.

32 posted on 06/13/2007 7:41:59 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Incorrigible

Look at Soprano and McGreevy - which one would anyone prefer? Not a pretty choice, but an obvious one.


33 posted on 06/13/2007 7:49:36 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: Incorrigible

McDreamy?..McSteamy?..nah..NJ has McGreevey..


34 posted on 06/13/2007 7:50:34 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: chimera

Nice pics, We get to Ocean City about every other year. It’s a very family oriented place, no drunken “kids” or whatnot. Very pleasant.

My FIL has his fishing boat out of the Marina back in behind Great Bay and we go out on the Ocean for Flounder or whatever. It’s a blast. I agree there are bad parts of NJ, but to pan it just because we have crooked liberal douchebag pols and some dumpy spots is ridiculous.


35 posted on 06/13/2007 7:52:38 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Malsua
I like going for bluefish myself. For a (relatively) small fish, they put up one heck of a fight. Pretty tasty, too. Just remember to take out the oil strip.

Flounder/fluke are also very tasty. My sister used to go out on party boats from Barnegat Light and bring home some nice ones.

And don't forget the delicious morsels of blue crabs and steamed clams. Yummy. Now you're making me homesick...

36 posted on 06/13/2007 7:59:26 AM PDT by chimera
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“You have no idea of how long I was there, or where my travels took me.......”

Right, we all get it. Despite making a really stupid blanket statement, you’re actually a seasoned traveller who toured NJ extensively. You’re just a misunderstood globe trotter, not a provincial hick from the plains who was confused by jug handles and swore you’d never return to a state that has more than two lanes per side in its highway system.

“And I’M clueless?”

Yes, very much so!!

You’re living in what is quite possibly the most boring region in the country, yet recommend turning a state that actually has commerce and industry into a dump?

Have some more corn!!


37 posted on 06/13/2007 8:02:52 AM PDT by JerriBlank
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To: Incorrigible

Did they mention Texas?

I hear that in Oregon they plan to change the state motto to, “We are doing fine without you.”


38 posted on 06/13/2007 8:06:49 AM PDT by oyez
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To: oyez
I hear that in Oregon they plan to change the state motto to, “We are doing fine without you.”

We should steal that one!

39 posted on 06/13/2007 8:11:13 AM PDT by jebeier (Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity. But is stupidity sufficient?)
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To: oyez
I hear that in Oregon they plan to change the state motto to, “We are doing fine without you.”

That's funny but there's no chance that the effete hippies in Oregon will go for it!  Better to save it for New Jersey.

 

40 posted on 06/13/2007 8:13:39 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Calpernia

You probably have a negative impression of Texas too, even though you may never have been here.


41 posted on 06/13/2007 8:20:34 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

I don’t have a negative impression of Texas.


42 posted on 06/13/2007 8:21:47 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
My important knowledge of New Jersey was learned from this picture:

i.e. Stay out of the pine barrens.
43 posted on 06/13/2007 8:23:24 AM PDT by oyez
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To: Ditter

Never ask a man where he’s from! If he’s from Texas, you won’t have to ask, he’ll tell you! And if he isn’t from Texas, you shouldn’t embarrass him by calling attention to it!


44 posted on 06/13/2007 8:25:59 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: chimera

Bluefish, small? If you think bluefish are small, what do you consider a large fish?


45 posted on 06/13/2007 8:28:46 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

And I don’t have a negative impression of you. ;9)


46 posted on 06/13/2007 8:34:28 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: JerriBlank
Nice try, kid!

Except you forgot to say anything about our covered wagons and all those pesky Indian attacks we have to put up with! AND...we not only have corn, but soy beans too!

47 posted on 06/13/2007 8:35:57 AM PDT by MountainDad
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To: Ditter

Does this mean I didn’t scare you? Cause, I was trying to :)


48 posted on 06/13/2007 8:35:57 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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"...what do you consider a large fish?"

An Albagore?

49 posted on 06/13/2007 8:36:12 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

I’ve caught tuna about the size of a blue.

Tuna get larger; but they can average the same size.


50 posted on 06/13/2007 8:40:08 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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