Skip to comments.Eugenic Darwinism
Posted on 06/13/2007 11:59:38 AM PDT by LUMary
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Woo hoo! ANOTHER evolution thread!
Yeah, we need to figure out how to combine the evo debate with the dispensationalism thread ... that would be a blast.
The idea of breeding better humans was around for a long time prior to Charles Darwin. The ancient Spartans for example, would discard babies which they did not deem worthy once they were born. Ancient Romans also engaged in the practice.
Whew, that settles it I guess!
Woo hoo! ANOTHER evolution thread!
LOL. And here you are, the first one to comment on the thread. Methinks you doth protest too much, I think you like evo threads.
I’ll just say this, if Darwin is partly responsible for eugenics, then Christ is partly responsible for everything evil done in His name. And I find that notion ABSURD!
if Darwin is responsilbe for Eugenics, and “Christ is responsilbe for everything evil done in his name”: Then Christ is also responsilbe for much more good “Done in his name” such as saving people from their sins, the raise of western civilization, good works done over the years by those whom claim to follow Christ (Oh and your very breath of life and intelligence).
What has Darwin given us “in his name” good..?
Fallacy here. Evolution cannot be directed or affected by the will although socialists have been trying and recently Pres Bill Clinton said he could enhance the pace of societal evolution.
Its a stretch to blame Darwin for eugenics. Better to blame the folks who used his observations to promote it.
Yet there is Rush already at "the cutting edge of societal evolution".
You did read that I thought the concept was absurd, right? Just like I wrote in the post that you responded to, that you read in its entirety, right?
Quoting me out of context to try to draw me into a discussion over a notion that I plainly stated I thought was absurd might work on a child, but it will not work with me.
That’s right. Well, we all are even if we aren’t syndicated.
You’re mad at me, aren’t you?
A valid point. But I keep wondering why Darwin is so often compared to Christ. What do they really have in common?
Your notion that it is equally absurd to blame evil actions of others to Darwin and Christ doesn’t quite hold up.
I agree that Christ has had many horrible, evil things done in His name - but, all those acts were contrary to His teachings. What evil act by others can you honestly attribute to one of His sayings or teachings from the New Testament?
Darwin, on the other hand, while he may not have been a complete believer in eugenics, taught ideas about human origins that logically and ultimately lead one to the beliefs held by eugenic’s ideologists. Human beings are just flukes of nature with no special claim over any other fluke or flukes of nature. Moral objections to eugenics are nonsensical if there is no God.
I was responding to the wrong post.
I think you may be putting some words in Darwin’s mouth. I don’t think he was promoting the idea that there was no God.
Youre mad at me, arent you?
Chuckling ... I find it hard to be mad at anonymous posters on internet forums ...
My sarcastic side, however, is incapable of letting anyone slide when they groan at particular varieties of threads as they are reading and commenting on the very thread they groan at.
From a purely Darwinian perspective there’s a strong practical objection to eugenics. Evolution is the result of natural processes, we can only guess as to what made one species better than another and subsequently more deserving of survival. Eugenics is an attempt to override a natural process, declaring with our limited knowledge which section of humanity is better and more deserving of survival, the problem is the eugenicists might be wrong. The proper Darwinian approach to improving humanity is a species is to not, just do your thing and let nature take it’s course, eugenicists pervert the concept for their own twitsted purpose.
Women practice eugenics every time they decide that a man isnt good enough to be the father of their children.
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