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Senators Work to Revive Immigration Bill
Associated Press ^ | 6/14/07 | Julie Hirshfield Davis

Posted on 06/14/2007 7:14:46 AM PDT by Cat loving Texan

Senators Work to Revive Immigration Bill

By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON — Key Republican and Democratic senators are reaching for a deal to resurrect their stalled immigration compromise by requiring that some $4 billion be spent on border security and workplace enforcement.

The mandatory security funding is part of a plan to attract more Republican support for the measure, which grants legal status to millions of unlawful immigrants.

In private meetings Wednesday, the bipartisan group that crafted the delicate compromise was hammering out a plan to allow votes on a limited set of Republican- and Democratic-sought changes in exchange for a commitment from GOP holdouts that they will back moving ahead with the bill.

Republican architects of the measure, which grants legal status to millions of unlawful immigrants, expressed confidence that such an agreement was possible as early as Thursday.

"The list is there," said Sen. Mel Martinez, R-Fla., adding that GOP senators were ready to present their plan to Senate leaders.

With the tentative package, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid "should have what he needs to move forward," said Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz. "This is just to let him know that it can be done."

Reid has said he would revive the measure if at least 20 more Republicans commit to moving ahead with the broad immigration bill. It stalled last week when only seven GOP senators supported a Democratic bid to limit debate and expedite a final vote.

Reid expressed optimism that negotiators would strike a deal that could pave the way.

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, the lead Democratic negotiator, said he supported the bid to provide mandatory funding for border security and enforcement.

"You give the assurance that when this is signed, that there are going to be the resources to do the kind of security protections that are in this legislation," Kennedy said.

Under the proposal by Kyl and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., border security and workplace enforcement would be funded up front, and eventually covered by the fines and fees set out in the broader immigration bill.

"Everybody's trying to prove that they are willing and able to enforce the law this time, unlike 1986," Kyl said, referring to the last major immigration overhaul, which established a one-year amnesty program for illegal immigrants who had been in the U.S. at least four years.

"What better way to demonstrate that other than to say, 'We're not going to let congressional appropriations dictate this — we are going to put the money up front,'" Kyl said.

As part of the tentative deal, the Senate would vote on a proposal by Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, to require all illegal immigrant household heads to return to their countries of origin before obtaining legal status, Graham said. Under the legislation, only those seeking green cards — permanent legal residency — would be required to return home first.

Negotiators spent hours Wednesday huddled in meetings or on the phone. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, who with Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez helped craft the bill in a series of intense and secretive talks earlier this year, was again on hand to help broker a deal.

"There's no question it's an uphill battle," Kennedy said. "It's difficult but not impossible."

A day after Bush went to Capitol Hill to field criticism from Republicans who derailed the bill, the White House said it would be open to changes to the delicate bipartisan compromise. Architects have argued their so-called "grand bargain" could collapse under the weight of poison-pill amendments.

"You may have a carefully crafted compromise, but on the other hand, you have members of both parties who want to have their say and have their input," White House press secretary Tony Snow said.

Snow also signaled support for the idea of pumping additional money into border security, which he said was worth pursuing, and played down the bitter divisions among Republicans on the issue. "This is not an internal 'fight,'" he said, and added that Bush "considers fellow Republicans friends and colleagues."

Republicans have coalesced behind the idea of assuring a funding stream for border security and workplace enforcement. Georgia Republican Sens. Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson want a separate emergency spending bill that could total as much as $15 billion to pay for such measures.

Additional funds for border and workplace crackdowns could persuade the Georgians to back the effort to resurrect the immigration bill, Chambliss said.

"We're thinking about it," he told reporters.

June 14, 2007 - 2:09 a.m. CDT Copyright 2007, The Associated Press.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deafrino; illegalimmigration; immigration; immigrationbill; lipstickonthepig; polishingtheturd; scaretactics; sellouts; vampirebill

1 posted on 06/14/2007 7:14:47 AM PDT by Cat loving Texan
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To: Cat loving Texan

2 posted on 06/14/2007 7:16:13 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: Cat loving Texan

Revive is a good word.....it is dead!


3 posted on 06/14/2007 7:16:24 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Cat loving Texan
Here’s an idea, how about the senators working to do what their constituents voted them into office to do.
4 posted on 06/14/2007 7:17:16 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Cat loving Texan
Senators work

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5 posted on 06/14/2007 7:17:55 AM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This bill is like The Undead. KEEP THE HEAT ON!!


6 posted on 06/14/2007 7:18:04 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: Cat loving Texan
Key Republican and Democratic senators are reaching for a deal to resurrect their stalled immigration compromise by requiring that some $4 billion be spent on border security and workplace enforcement.

Sons of b*tches, every one.

7 posted on 06/14/2007 7:19:14 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Cat loving Texan

Continue to call and protest this shamnesty.


8 posted on 06/14/2007 7:19:21 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: Cat loving Texan
They are going to Penn&Teller us with a lot of smoke & mirrors, mis-direction.

Then when our attention is elswhere, Viola, the Amnesty Bill has already passed. Then a quick adjourment and the whole Senate is out for the 4th before we know what happened.

9 posted on 06/14/2007 7:20:13 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Cat loving Texan

I say again “WE DON’T NEED NEW LAWS”.....enforce the ones we have. These guys are just playing politics and our people will suffer for it.


10 posted on 06/14/2007 7:21:55 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Cat loving Texan

How many billions have been spent since the failed 1986 bill, and our borders are not secure? We already have seen the 700 mile fence shrink to 300 miles since last year’s Senate bill was passed. Is Kay Bailey Hutchison’s bill going to deport families whose heads do not return to their homelands? Of course not. Trent Lott has already assured his Mississippi farmers and chicken plants that all enforcement amendments will be stripped out of the bill in conference, so this enforcement sham means absolutely nothing.
Keep the heat on your Republican senators. Don’t allow them to think you are fooled by their rhetoric.


11 posted on 06/14/2007 7:25:23 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: All

In the category of appearances, maybe this could become a conservative bill. If Kay Bailey Hutchinson’s amendment passed and all Z Visa applicants have to be deported first, and 4 billion for border security is spent and implemented AND there is a 5 year delay between those two events and then the subsequent start of other features of the bill . . . then this is a conservative bill.

It would mean deportation before Z Visa, it would mean a sealed border and workplace enforcement, and 5 yrs is too long for illegals without jobs to hang around. They would have to self deport.

This is actually moving in a conservative direction.


12 posted on 06/14/2007 7:25:44 AM PDT by Owen
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To: AU72
Then a quick adjourment and the whole Senate is out for the 4th before we know what happened.

Those that vote for it..need to know they just lost their jobs.

13 posted on 06/14/2007 7:32:12 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Cat loving Texan

I can’t imagine this bill doing anything claimed for it:

1. Illegals will be come legal upon signing. They will, just, not have applied yet or for that matter crossed the border.

2. There will no longer be cheap labor, they have all rights to minimum wage, etc.

3. There will be no border security, what’s the point.

4. I don’t, necessarily, accept the notion the the illegals will vote Bolshecrat, to be that dumb you have to be an American lib.


14 posted on 06/14/2007 7:35:05 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (Bolshecrat, the amoral party of what if and whine.)
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To: Owen; All
Maybe you better read this post:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1850026/posts?page=1,50

From that post:

In other words, if the bill gets through the Senate and the House, the Democrats and the open borders Republicans will work together when the bills have to be reconciled in committee to strip out any amendments that the "grand bargainers" don't like. Therefore, at this point, it doesn't matter what amendments pass, because any tough enforcement provisions that slip through will be rendered toothless when the bills are reconciled.

15 posted on 06/14/2007 7:35:06 AM PDT by 50mm (Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist - G. Carlin)
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To: Cat loving Texan

bump


16 posted on 06/14/2007 7:37:36 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Cat loving Texan
Do you want to fax a Senator to let them know you are against the Immigration Bill? Three steps, takes less than a minute, for free and you don't even need to get up from your computer.

1. Don't know who to fax? Here is a list of GOP Senators being targeted by the pro-amnesty crowd to flip.

2. Need a fax number? Go to http://www.grassfire.org/19042/targets.htm (Ignore the prices, you are just after the fax numbers).

3. Fax for free from the Web. Put your message in the text box. Go to http://faxzero.com/

That's it. You're done.

You can also email them from a webform here. This site also has their office phone numbers.

17 posted on 06/14/2007 7:38:28 AM PDT by Pete (My kid sister's first novel: Far Horizons at http://www.amazon.co.uk/)
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To: Owen
Republicans may be trying to turn the tables on the Dems.
18 posted on 06/14/2007 7:41:11 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: Cat loving Texan
"......reaching for a deal that would require FOUR BILLION $$$$'s be spent on border security and workplace enforcement".

Give me a break. Transparent idiocy and smoke screen.

Four billion of our tax bucks going right down the drain.

Leni

19 posted on 06/14/2007 7:42:08 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Don't give up the ship. Keep phoning & emailing. Remember, we lost the Alamo!)
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To: Owen
"...maybe this could become a conservative bill."

The ONLY thing this Bill is going to do once it's passed and signed into law is to give legal status to anyone (and all their relatives) who can get here and apply so they can avail themselves of our treasury which will need constant re-filling with more and more of your tax $.

20 posted on 06/14/2007 7:43:20 AM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: All

Owen may, indeed, be correct. But it is a measure of the {appropriate} distrust we all have that we probably won’t believe them even if the audible voice of God confirms every word they speak.


21 posted on 06/14/2007 7:49:58 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: Cat loving Texan

$15,000,000,000 for some vague and undefined security measures.

I propose using the money to just pay illegals to leave the country. Give each one $10,000 in cash, collectible at the border on their way out, where they will also provide a photo, fingerprints, and a DNA sample. Maybe even a small tatoo in a hidden spot.

If they come back, and now we know who they are, they get thrown in jail for fraud.


22 posted on 06/14/2007 7:51:20 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Cat loving Texan
Read this excerpt from yesterday's Washington Times article entitled "Bush Lobbies Senate on Immigration", available at: http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070613-120635-9285r.htm

One key question is how to go forward even though several amendments have already cut at the grand bargain -- including limiting the guest-worker program and making it easier to deport those who don't qualify for legalization -- and several other difficult amendments could pass before the bill is final.

Senate Minority Whip Trent Lott, Mississippi Republican, said those amendments will simply disappear when the House and Senate go to conference.

"No big deal -- you pitch those before you get to the Rotunda," he said.

and write or call your senators, Rush, Shawn, Laura, EVERYBODY to show them what a scam this bill is and Lott just admitted it.

23 posted on 06/14/2007 7:52:38 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Cat loving Texan
You Tube

Reid

This week, we will vote on cloture and final passage of a comprehensive bill that will strengthen border security, bring the 12 million undocumented Americans out of the shadows, and keep our economy strong. In the days ahead, we will work to improve the bill to protect and strengthen family ties while improving the structure of the temporary-worker program.

24 posted on 06/14/2007 7:53:54 AM PDT by GailA (I'm a quilt-a-holic and proud of it. Run Fred Run!)
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To: Owen

Is this one of the amendments which will be removed when the bill is to be reconciled between the house and the senate? The ones mentioned by McConnell?


25 posted on 06/14/2007 8:12:15 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: Owen
This is actually moving in a conservative direction.

Except that Lott said that "objectionable" (i.e., conservative) amendment would be stripped out in conference.

26 posted on 06/14/2007 8:14:41 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: depressed in 06

American lib? Precisely what they will be (in their own quaint way, of course) if this bill passes. This bill needs to be stopped dead. Keep calling and above all keep on praying.


27 posted on 06/14/2007 8:15:02 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: Cedric

Isn’t it pretty to think so.


28 posted on 06/14/2007 8:16:55 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: Cat loving Texan

They want to pass amnesty because they’re afraid if they don’t Fred Barnes might not say nice things about them. This is what we’re up against and the type of warped mentality that apparently rules in Washington today.


29 posted on 06/14/2007 8:17:37 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
They want to pass amnesty because they’re afraid if they don’t Fred Barnes might not say nice things about them.

I don't buy that at all, quite frankly.

IMO some very powerful interests are pulling strings and the puppets at the end of those strings are dancing.

30 posted on 06/14/2007 8:47:57 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: dirtboy
Bush, Chambliss, Kyl want it for cheap labor reasons but it's kind of strange that's the excuse they're giving with other Senators:

I asked how that could possibly be given the outpouring of anger against this bill, and he told me that a lot of moderates were afraid of being called racists by people like Michael Chertoff, Luis Gutierrez, and Fred Barnes.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1850026/posts

31 posted on 06/14/2007 8:51:55 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Cat loving Texan
They're taking Pepe Le Pew and spritzing him up with perfume. But he's still a skunk. Which is exactly what the amnesty bill is and no amount of surgery will fix it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

32 posted on 06/14/2007 8:56:04 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Owen
Please see the following link: link -- Lott has publicly said they will strip out all amendments in conference so the bill is the original "Grand Bargain". This is all a big con game to confuse conservatives into thinking they intend to fix the bill. They don't.
33 posted on 06/14/2007 8:56:07 AM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I asked how that could possibly be given the outpouring of anger against this bill, and he told me that a lot of moderates were afraid of being called racists by people like Michael Chertoff, Luis Gutierrez, and Fred Barnes.

I think that's just a smoke screen. I doubt any insider is gonna admit to a reporter that it's all about power brokers calling in markers.

Seriously, look at the overwhelming bipartisan opposition to illegal immigration. The GOP mayor of Hazelton who pioneered municipal ordinances against illegals won the GOP primary - AND the Dem primary with write-in votes. The polling numbers from honest polls are off the charts. If someone was interested purely in electibility, they would embrace this issue.

The fact that political animals such as Senators are standing in opposition to such a potent and growing political force, IMO, only means one thing: the power players who put these guys into power are pulling their strings.

34 posted on 06/14/2007 8:58:17 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: Pete

Thanks, just got off the phone with mine.

The person I talked with in Lamar Alexander’s office said their phone lines are burning up, all against this legislation.

The person in Bob Corker’s office wouldn’t tell me whether or not the calls were majority opposed, said she couldn’t, but I told her I knew the answer anyway.

Both said they aren’t supporting the bill in its current form.


35 posted on 06/14/2007 9:01:30 AM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: dirtboy
I think that's just a smoke screen.

It may very well be. I know all this talk about border security going on by Bush and Chambliss is a facade to fool people into supporting the bill so attempts at deception is nothing new to them in Washington. They simply can't be that stupid to know that the overwhelming majority don't want this pos bill.

36 posted on 06/14/2007 9:07:05 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
They simply can't be that stupid to know that the overwhelming majority don't want this pos bill.

Oh, they are not stupid. Snake oil salesmen seldom are.

They are trying to fool enough of the people long enough to get this bill to Bush's desk. And give wavering Senators some kind of political cover.

We need to keep an eye on the pubbie senators who are not up for re-election in 2008. Those guys might be tempted to think the outrage would subside by 2010 or 2012. They need to be convinced otherwise - if they vote for this bill, conservatives will be tireless in working for their defeat by any means necessary.

37 posted on 06/14/2007 9:10:55 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: dirtboy

It would be nice payback to see those supporters of amnesty in the GOP booted out, and I think many will be but by 2012 enough red states will have turned permanently blue that nationally the GOP is toast anyway and won’t have a prayer.


38 posted on 06/14/2007 9:18:07 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Cat loving Texan
All of this is moot. Trent Lott said all of the enforcement provisions were going to be taken out of the bill.


39 posted on 06/14/2007 9:20:27 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Cat loving Texan
Adding pork to this bill is exactly why the American people abhor the legislative process. STOP SHOWING US THE MONEY AND START SHOWING US THE ENFORCEMENT!!!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

40 posted on 06/14/2007 9:22:03 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
They're taking Pepe Le Pew and spritzing him up with perfume.

True but in the end it's still a skunk.

41 posted on 06/14/2007 9:27:14 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: depressed in 06
There will no longer be cheap labor, they have all rights to minimum wage, etc.

The "want 'em cheap and grateful" folks don't understand once the illegals are legal, they'll have to pay standard American wages, provide workman's comp, Social Security etc.

When illegals are legal, with their strong work ethic intact, they'll leave the fields and go for better jobs.

What will the exploiters do then?

Answer: What they always do... bring in a new crop of illegals.

42 posted on 06/14/2007 9:27:37 AM PDT by GOPJ (Open border lobbies push for amnesty when borders leak like sieves? Why?(hint:12 million new dems))
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To: GOPJ
Key Senators to call:

McConnell 202/224-2541
Lott 202/224-6253
Kyl 202/224-4521
Brownback 202/224-6521
Burr 202/224-3154
Chambliss 202/224-3521
Cornyn 202/224-2934
Hutchison 202/224-5922

43 posted on 06/14/2007 9:44:37 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Just say NO to Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


44 posted on 06/14/2007 2:42:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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