Posted on 06/16/2007 8:02:53 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
“if it doesn’t pass when they resurrect it, it may be too late for them, and their friends, to walk away scott free after trying to destroy the face of our nation.”
And they’ll probably get a visit from Fat Tony or Antonio at payback time. There’s a lot of *big money* riding on this decision.
True, but there's another side to this. Business, agriculture, and even economic reality needs an influx of new CONSUMERS in this country -- to prop up what has become an increasingly unsustainable socioeconomic order.
Anything for you, my Dear.
Fill their mailboxes, answering machines, everything with facts about why we are not going to support them if they continue to destroy America.
Welcome to the crowd, Mo. I've been saying this since the months before the invasion of Iraq, and one of the best signs of progess in my mind is that I can at least say this "out loud" at a place like FreeRepublic and find more than just a few people agreeing with me.
This stupid "war on terror" is -- and always has been -- a complete farce. This country isn't defending itself at all . . . it's building an empire.
He/she may have the opportunity but not the will. Sure Hillary might make some token busts, but real enforcement will not be implemented. The Dems are not going to alienate their constituency.
If you're an illegal hiring big-biz owner, then you DO NOT want an amnesty bill. Amnesty gives your existing cheap labor rights to min wage etc. And Amnesty doesn't indemnify you from the Hillary Federal Govt coming down on you in 2009, it makes it worse.
It is not big biz but small to medium biz that doesn't want amnesty. Still, without any real enforcement, it really is meaningless. If you believe that Hillary is really going to enforce this bill, you're nuts. The Dems are the ones fighting the building of a fence. They will listening to interest groups like La Raza. With 45 million Hispanics now and a birthrate twice as high as that of the rest of the American population, the rapid Hispanic population boom in the coming decades is just starting. And so is their political clout. They will use our own political system to hang us.
If you're an illegal hiring big-biz owner, you want to keep illegals illegal and cheap, and you want to keep your protectors in congressional seats continuously. A law cannot protect you because it can be overturned at any given time.
A law is meaningless if it is not enforced. We don't have the bureaucracy capable of enforcing these laws. The resources just aren't there nor is the political will.
The House decided to withhold funding for the fence.
I just called my "rep" Jane Harman and demanded that she explain to her constituents why she voted no to the funding. (of course she won't bother answering that question).
Wrong on one very important point. If this bill passes, the 12 to 20 million illegals with be given legal status. Once that is done, it is game, set, and match. No matter what future Congresses may do, and I believe they will try to remove whatever "concessions" the Dems made to get this bill, e,g., changing chain migration, you can't unring a bell. These 12 to 20 million will be legal residents of the US now and forever more and will be able to bring in their spouses, children, and parents. They will also be entitled to paid legal representation and SS numbers. Once that is done, nothing else really matters in terms of how this will destroy this country as we know it.
So we have big business and small business lobbying groups wanting amnesty and voting against the Constitution because it benefits them to have cheaper and usually more reliable workers for their business. And we have the Washington critters voting for where the money is for the next election. And we have the leftest educational system so well intact that it sabotages our future work force. Cordio
Explain to me again why I should continue to support the Republicans.
Oh, I believe you'd want this particular amnesty bill, considering the provision least mentioned by its supporters: the so-called "temporary Z visa." From the moment the bill is signed, there will be no deportations, since all illegals will be assumed to be eligible. DHS has six months to set up a system for registering these people (with that exhaustive 24-hour background check). I doubt they will meet that deadline, and even if they do, the registration period can be extended or renewed (a given, considering the sheer numbers, the historic inefficiency of any government bureaucracy and the fact that extensions have been granted in every previous immigration bill), and that presumption of eligibility will continue.
There's no specific deportation rules or deadline set down for non-registrants; and no way of even estimating what percentage of illegals have registered at any given point, considering the 12 million figure is very likely a gross underestimation. So you wind up with an amorphous mess of a population of non-registered illegals mixed with Z-visa holders, and an indefinite period of business as usual, compounded by the fact that employers are actually forbidden, according to this bill, to use the government status-checking system as a prerequisite of employment. They must hire first, then check, wait for results from the same slow bureaucracy, then allow an appeal by the employee, yada, yada, yada.
Regarding the rush to amnesty, this has been Bush's holy grail from the moment of his inauguration. 9/11 threw a huge monkey-wrench into his plans, or he would have pushed something through in his first term (he tried, then dropped it). As it stands now, it's his last chance, with the only constraint being getting it "out of the way" before the primaries; because, of course, we dumb, xenophobic Americans have short memories and all will be forgotten soon.
I also don't believe the congress critters believe their future is doomed; rather I think they've convinced themselves that 2006 proved conservatism is dying, and that centrism, as exemplified by both Clinton and GW Bush, is the bright new promised land to which these privileged few have been ordained to lead us all.
Hillary? She's more likely to push for en-masse naturalization of the new Democrat base of temporary (and indefinitely renewable) Z-visa holders than raid businesses.
I think at the highest political levels, i.e., the Bushes, Clintons, certain Senators, and the oligarchy of Mexico it is about creating MexAmeriCanada. Beneath that level, there is an unholy convergence of interests driving this.”
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So it would appear -—— Throw in some concern about China’s rise and it all starts to come together.
Post No. 22 Hat tip to caphillbabe.
They don't want us coming in the front door, let's try the back door like the illegals do.
It would be hard to hire a Hispanic crew if one couldn't’t really communicate with them.
Cordio
Your analysis re the North American Union and trans-Texas Highwy as to the urgent push to get the illegal Immigration bill through sounds just right!
Theese is change from yobs that Americans WON'T do...si?
Si, es verdad. Ellos tubieron que cambiar su mensaje. Malditos. Todavía están mintiendo. Pinches malditos.
Weak? Was this suppose to be a joke? Did I misread your post?
We are at war, no?
We have millions entering this country during war. We have trucks entering daily with thousands of pounds of dope, and many others are crammed with human cargo.
Mexico is one of the most corrupt countries on earth. Officials can be bribed with mere tokens.
Since 911 airport security has been beefed up. It would be a little difficult to smuggle in weapons, bio material, bio weapons, and material for other weapons, dirty bombs etc in a commercial airliner. No?
How easy would it be for ship to sail to Mexico, filled with all kinds of nasty stuff, bad guys, weapons, bio stuff, or other weapons material, or whatever? Bribe a local official if need be. Put these guys and their nasty cargo on trucks and roll it across the border along with all the other trucks entering with loads of dope and human cargo. This could *easily be accomplished.
..May God have mercy....you've got it.
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