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AP: Ku Klux Klan Members Are 'Certainly Conservative'
NewsBusters.org ^ | 6/16/07 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 06/16/2007 8:39:57 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus

In a rather soft boiled story on West Virginia Senator Robert Byrd's dotage and his uselessness as an able bodied member of the Senate, at 89 he's currently the longest serving Senator in American history, the AP did the right thing in reminding the readers that Byrd was once a member of the Klan. Yet, they had to go and ruin the truth by claiming that Klan members are "certainly conservative."

In fact, this AP story amazingly tries to make it seem as if Byrd had only late in life become that member of Congress that has been "endeared" to "many liberals", hinting that it only just dawned on him after 53 years in the Senate to become a liberal. The AP imagines that Byrd somehow "remade" himself into a liberal over the Bush administration's Iraq policy, as if he never was one before that.

Colleagues said Byrd agreed to have Murray lead the floor fight, even though the Iraq issue is close to his heart. Since the war's outset, he has ranked among Bush's harshest critics, a role that endeared him to many liberals and proved again that a skillful politician can remake his image if he stays in office long enough...
What is with this "remake his image" stuff, AP? Do you imagine that Byrd has been Barry Goldwater until we set our first boots on the ground in Iraq?

But, here is the worst part. As mentioned, the AP imagines that only conservatives could ever be a Klan member.

...His political origins were certainly conservative, including a stint in the Ku Klux Klan — membership for which Byrd has repeatedly apologized. His 14-hour filibuster of civil rights legislation in 1964 was among the longest in Senate history.
I see. Once again we have the myth that only conservatives (a word that is used to denote Republican today) were against civil rights.

Does it occur to the AP that the bulk of those politicians against civil rights in the beginning of that era were Democrats? Does it occur to them that the civil rights bills that later passed assuring blacks their equal rights could not have passed were it not for the strong support of the Republican Party? Does the AP not know that the Dixiecrats who led the fight against civil rights for blacks were NOT Republicans, nor conservatives, but merely racist in imputes? There were no "conservative" principles at stake as far as the Dixiecrats were concerned in that time period.

Apparently expecting the AP to represent truthful American history is expecting far too much.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: ap; bias; byrd; kkk; kukluxklan; leftistgarbage; mediabias; msm; robertbyrd
Yeah, we ALL know that Klan members are "conservative". right?
1 posted on 06/16/2007 8:39:59 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Segregation was a DemocRat policy. Lester Maddox, George Wallace, “Sheets” Byrd— all DemocRats, never once a Republican. Al Gore Sr. was a leading opponent of the Civil Rights Act, too, something sonny-boy somehow never mentions.


2 posted on 06/16/2007 8:44:36 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Thompson 2008!])
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Are they going to tell us about “liberals” like Charles Manson (communal collectivist), or the Unibomber Ted Kaczynski (environmentalist)?


3 posted on 06/16/2007 8:45:07 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Hammer hits the nail dead center on the head.


4 posted on 06/16/2007 8:47:01 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Let's not forget that their also Republican as well. after all, if we're gonna rewrite history we certainly must give due homage to that great Democratic President, Abraham Lincoln. The Evil Republicans Slaveholders left the Union fought and lost the Civil War and established the KKK and the Jim Crow Laws which plagued the US for the first half of the 20th Century.

When Republican Governors and mayors resisted Desegregation Efforts and stood in the School House Door it was that marvelous Democratic President Dwight Esenhower who sent in the National Guard to protect Negro Rights.

Ain't Demoncrap History Marvelous???

PHOOEY!

5 posted on 06/16/2007 8:47:51 AM PDT by Young Werther ( and Julius Ceasar said, "quae cum ita sunt." (or since these things are so!))
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To: Mobile Vulgus

David Duke on why Cindy Sheehan is right.

davidduke.com/?p=350

I won’t post a direct link to that scumbags page praising the ditch witch.


6 posted on 06/16/2007 8:48:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

To the MSM, ‘conservative’ = ‘racist’.


7 posted on 06/16/2007 8:57:04 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: Mobile Vulgus

The KKK is just as "conservative" as the AP is "objective" or HONEST.

8 posted on 06/16/2007 8:58:12 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy, Romney & McCain = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party - Duncan Hunter, President 2008)
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To: RasterMaster

The KKK was a founded as a splinter group of the Democrat Party.


9 posted on 06/16/2007 9:02:38 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Jim Crow was a Democrat


10 posted on 06/16/2007 9:05:03 AM PDT by Ratblaster
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To: Mobile Vulgus

The libs continue to waller in their own excrement. I love it!


11 posted on 06/16/2007 9:12:31 AM PDT by WyCoKsRepublican
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To: Mobile Vulgus

When you stop and think, liberals are always screaming about diversity. But when an entire region goes from racist Jim Crow laws to a truly diverse area, that’s ignored just because they don’t agree with the politics of those involved (although I still believe that racist forces are alive and well in the Democrat Party, just based on their policies toward the black community that seem to serve no other purpose than to hold them back).


12 posted on 06/16/2007 9:17:15 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Conspiracy theorists are among the most egotistical people, but have the fewest reasons to be such.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Yea the Ku Klux Klan, and Neo Nazi are 'Certainly Conservative'...NOT!

Why don't you check out there stand on the war AP...and terrorist...there arm and arm with you, Byrd and the left.....

13 posted on 06/16/2007 9:27:00 AM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
Here in the South, if you encounter a true racist, odds are he'll be an old-school yellow dog Democrat whose daddy voted Democrat and whose daddy's daddy voted Democrat, etc.
14 posted on 06/16/2007 9:30:16 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: ElkGroveDan
Are they going to tell us about “liberals” like Charles Manson (communal collectivist), or the Unibomber Ted Kaczynski (environmentalist)?

Jim Jones was also quite the liberal, rubbing elbows with the like of Mondale and Carter. Jonestown was a commie liberal wetdream.

15 posted on 06/16/2007 9:35:47 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Mobile Vulgus
OK I know in would be as scummy and going to DU but is there a Ku Klux Klan web site...I know the stand on the on 9/11 and Iraq....Neocon / Jew conspiracy but let them speak for themself...

The left will tell you it was a Neocon / Jew / KKK conspiracy....yea the Klan and Neo Nazi are big supporter of the Jew ...riiiiiiiiight /sarcasm off

16 posted on 06/16/2007 9:42:37 AM PDT by tophat9000 (My 2008 grassroots Republican platform: Build the fence, enforce the laws, and win the damm WAR!)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
DNC Caucus get together....


18 posted on 06/16/2007 9:58:54 AM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Southern Democrats were the ones who fought slavery in the Civil War days. Southern Democrats were the ones who fought against Civil Rights back in the 1960s. Today’s Democrats are the ones fighting against victory in Iraq, or against terrorism, or even the sovereignty of our own borders.

The Democrat Party: Traitors to America then, traitors to America now.


19 posted on 06/16/2007 9:59:23 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (Global warming? Hell, in Texas, we just call that "summer".)
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To: Always Right
Jim Jones' son says that his father lured people in with talk of social justice and equality. What they found in Jonestown was equality and forced labor at the barrel of a gun.

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Reverend Algore will bring us the same in the name of environment and social justice.
20 posted on 06/16/2007 10:02:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: All

Blah, Blah, Blah,
Smear, Smear, Smear

Other then trying to shut whites up is there a point to the AP article?


21 posted on 06/16/2007 10:22:48 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Sen. Byrd has set a new standard for taxpayer-funded narcissism by convincing the West Virginia Legislature to erect a statue of himself in the state Capitol. The statue's completion violates state law prohibiting statues of government officials until they have been dead for half a century.

Byrd's statue is currently housed in the Capitol Rotunda, as shown in the picture, and it is said if you stand under the statue the senator's hand points directly at your pockets.

http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=news_byrddroppings

22 posted on 06/16/2007 10:24:40 AM PDT by lowbridge ("The mainstream media IS the Democratic Party." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
AP tries to cover up racism in the ranks of its friends.

Doesn't work though. We all know what they are, particularly the writers who try to cover it up.

23 posted on 06/16/2007 10:25:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Does the AP not know that the Dixiecrats who led the fight against civil rights for blacks were NOT Republicans, nor conservatives, but merely racist in imputes?

NOT Republicans, true, of course.

Not conservatives, depends on what you are trying to conserve. In their case it was white dominance. They also tended to hold attitudes with regard to other issues (Communism/socialism, moral decay of society, taxation, etc.) that lined up very well with non-racist conservatives. They had essentially nothing in common with any other political groups in America.

There were no "conservative" principles at stake as far as the Dixiecrats were concerned in that time period.

Bull puckey, they were attempting to conserve white supremacy by Jim Crow methods.

I would contend that Jim Crow is, and always was, a very anti-conservative policy, if you view American history as a whole. From the standpoint of the south Jim Crow was an attempt to salvage as much as possible of the pre-war social system, a very conservative issue from their point of view.

It is simply not possible to intelligently discuss whether a particular policy is conservative or not unless you first define the principles you are attempting to conserve.

24 posted on 06/16/2007 10:26:38 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Diversity in theory is the enemy of diversity in practice.)
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To: Yardstick
if you encounter a true racist, odds are he'll be an old-school yellow dog Democrat

True, and largely forgotten.

However, the yellow dog Democrats were an intensely conservative bunch.

I contend it was a perverted conservatism in its attitudes towards racial issues, but you certainly cannot argue they were liberal or radical in any way.

25 posted on 06/16/2007 10:29:12 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Diversity in theory is the enemy of diversity in practice.)
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To: Yardstick

I live in Texas and I’ve never encountered a racist in my daily life. That doesn’t mean they don’t exist, but they’ve largely been discredited and (thankfully) for the most part keep to themselves.


26 posted on 06/16/2007 10:34:15 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Conspiracy theorists are among the most egotistical people, but have the fewest reasons to be such.)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Segregation was a DemocRat policy. Lester Maddox, George Wallace, “Sheets” Byrd— all DemocRats, never once a Republican. Al Gore Sr. was a leading opponent of the Civil Rights Act, too, something sonny-boy somehow never mentions.

From the days before the Civil War, Democrats have always been the party to aggravate and exploit racial differences. The main difference today is only a change in the skin color of many of the racial exploiters. On the other hand, the Republicans were always the true civil rights party as this page on Michael Zak's Grand Old Partisan website shows:

GOP Civil Rights Accomplishments

27 posted on 06/16/2007 10:40:01 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Yardstick

I grew up and left the south over 30 years ago. But amongst the 40-odd guys that I grew up with (friends, school buds, etc)...I’d say that 12 are KKK members and all 12 are staunch Democrats...which they will tell you to your face that they are Democrats. One of the 12 is a church deacon, since age 30, and one of the top union dudes in the county. The only absolute in this KKK membership deal is that 99 percent of the members are non-college graduates. Over the years of going back home and getting updated...you notice that most of the higher educated guys never got hooked up with the KKK...for whatever reason.


28 posted on 06/16/2007 10:50:25 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Young Werther

He who controls the past, controls the future. :/


29 posted on 06/16/2007 10:57:28 AM PDT by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

While Frederick Douglas, Harriet Tubman and Martin Luther King Jr. were all GOP, Slavery, Insurrection and Segregation were Donk, Donk and Donk.


30 posted on 06/16/2007 10:59:00 AM PDT by Blue State Insurgent
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Segregation was a DemocRat policy. Lester Maddox, George Wallace, “Sheets” Byrd— all DemocRats, never once a Republican. Al Gore Sr. was a leading opponent of the Civil Rights Act, too, something sonny-boy somehow never mentions.

You forgot to mention James William Fulbright ... whom Bill Clinton's has stated was a mentor of his and who Clinton looked up to

31 posted on 06/16/2007 10:59:02 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Mo1
Honky Donks!
32 posted on 06/16/2007 11:04:53 AM PDT by Blue State Insurgent
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Let's begin from the premise that words have meanings.

Conservatism -- at least one of its definitions -- is marked by adherence to traditional norms and resistance to rapid, sweeping change. Forget the slogans, the party labels, and all the usual knee-jerk, rah-rah crap -- opposition to desegregation was the conservative position.

A that time and on that issue, the large majority of Southern Democrats were conservative. The Republicans and some, mostly Northern, Democrats held the progressive, reformist, -- dare I say liberal? -- position, which was also, I scarcely need say, the correct and moral position.

We're so in love with describing someone as "a conservative " or "a liberal," and loading those terms with all kinds of emotional baggage, that we risk losing sight of what the words mean. In the Middle East, our goals are liberal -- sweeping changes, wiping out old traditions particularly as regards women. In the eyes of Wahabbists, we're radical liberals. Don't be afraid of the word.

33 posted on 06/16/2007 11:19:27 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: ElkGroveDan
...or the Unibomber Ted Kaczynski (environmentalist)?

I seem to remember ol' Ted had a copy of 'Earth in the Balance' in his little cabin.

34 posted on 06/16/2007 12:14:42 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Mobile Vulgus

I still think he was deep throat.


35 posted on 06/16/2007 1:14:13 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Liberal memories are very selective.

My liberal family members think the scandalous Wilbur Mills was a Republican.

36 posted on 06/21/2007 1:42:42 PM PDT by syriacus (If the US troops had remained in S. Korea in 1949, there would have been no Korean War in 1950.)
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